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    Advice on route-My family is staying in Wildwood Crest for a week in July and of course the idea has crossed my mind of riding up. I know NR has experience up and over the Susquehanna and the bay through Chesapeake City and Charlie had some info on the canal crossing, or at least I recall. Anyway, here it is.
    http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/md...24506936311707

    TDP report- Came across a cool building in an otherwise god forsaken neighborhood, the American Brewery building, never saw before, remarkable, I just gawked for a few minutes then thought it wise to skoot as I was all alone on the route. Amazing that these things are possible and that good people are reversing the tide of abandonemnet of these areas. The Hopkins sponsored Moveable Feast building a few blocks over is another great example.
    I did miss quite a few turns but I guess that's the nature of urban riding, up and down curbs, through the Giant parking lot etc. Good to see Ellen and family there, their impressive young son was able to reiterate their exact mileage from a tour of Cape Cod last summer.
    And the beer was good before I biked back home. I had my handlebar bag and panniers on the 520 so even though unloaded it was a good workout. I do like riding around the stadiums, something about the scale and being on roads that go otherwise unnoticed. The jazz trio were also very good, and the half of Chipoltle burrito hit the spot.
    I'm off tomorrow for a few days of camping out at Cape Henlopen or thereabouts with the boys, plan on bringing the fixed for some flat fun while they snooze.
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    Harry, good to see you as well. Matter-of-fact, guess I should say good to meet you since I know you've only met Jim before, not me. Ride was fine. Flatted 2 miles into ride and needed 2 tubes before we got back on the road. Always a little slow going with Ethan - stops are long winded. At least we no longer have to stop at every playground. The burritos were gone when we got done - as were the burgers and hot dogs. Jimmy took advantage of the beer - and we waited a bit for more food to appear. Liked the T's this year. Didn't miss any turns - but it required a lot of vigilance. Saw Barry and "the mother of his children" at the end of the ride. Great turn-out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HC203 View Post
    Advice on route- Charlie had some info on the canal crossing, or at least I recall. Anyway, here it is.
    http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/md...24506936311707

    TDP report- Came across a cool building in an otherwise god forsaken neighborhood, the American Brewery building, never saw before, remarkable, I just gawked for a few minutes then thought it wise to skoot as I was all alone on the route. Amazing that these things are possible and that good people are reversing the tide of abandonemnet of these areas.
    If the canal info you speak is the info I passed onto NR then you might not want to use it or check to make sure they finished the repairs. I lent him the Delaware Bike Map with a different route than he was going to ride. It was nearly the end of our beloved Isaiah. If memory serves there was a bridge being renovated????? Another option for your ride is to take the B&A trail to the Bay Bridge, hitch ride across the bridge, then ride east across Delaware. Very straightforward. Stay on the smaller roads and it will be very pleasant.

    I remember that building before it was renovated. Back in the 80's when I first started brewing I saw it and dreamed about making into a microbrew pub. Ah the dreams of the young. The city had a hand in renovating it. I remember the Mayor at the ribbon cutting ceremony a year or 2 ago. It made the mid-Atlantic Brew-news publication.

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    Harry, glad you liked the the American Brewery building, one of the new things on the route this year.

    Ellen, the "mother of my children" thing I though sounds better then my X. She's lost a lot of weight through diet and exercise via utility bike riding and I thought she might enjoy a recreational ride like this.
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    171 pages on this thread? I wish I could read it all but I'm not sure if I could keep in mind of all of the info from the thread lol. So I'm wondering if there is any site where all of the related info is collaborated together for the MD ppl? I know of a few sites but I want to see what you all could post. maybe start a new thread just for this purpose?

    I looked at the reference thread but there is only 2 link for the MD group. one is this particular thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouswill View Post
    171 pages on this thread?
    Welcome Will, We are very proud of our little thread.
    The only thing I dislike about it is the misspelling of "people's"

    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouswill View Post
    So I'm wondering if there is any site where all of the related info is collaborated together for the MD ppl? I know of a few sites but I want to see what you all could post. maybe start a new thread just for this purpose?
    I really don't have any idea what you're asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post
    Welcome Will, We are very proud of our little thread.
    The only thing I dislike about it is the misspelling of "people's"
    Thanks. Yeah lol. Maybe you can ask the OP to edit the title of the thread? (not sure if that's possible in this forum but I remember being able to do that on other forum)

    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post
    I really don't have any idea what you're asking.
    A compilation of MD specific sites for cyclist?

    like this,
    http://www.waba.org/index.php
    http://www.trails.com/toptrails.aspx?area=10280
    http://www.ohbike.org/events/
    http://mdbikeroutes.blogspot.com/

    Those are just a few sites I found from a quick google, however, I have no idea which one of them is good or up-to-date so contributions from the members here could help with that.

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    YaWn! Errr...! I spent way too much time setting up my new phone last night. Most of the time was spent getting to know where the menu items are, but I'm restored to nearly where I was before I lost my last phone.

    I really like the phone number backup/restore that Verizon offers. It really saved me a lot of time restoring phone numbers -and- apps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouswill View Post
    A compilation of MD specific sites for cyclist?

    l
    Here's a bunch:
    Balto biking stuff in Spokes(the WABA of B-more)
    http://www.baltimorespokes.org/

    Local trail maps for DC:
    http://bikewashington.org/

    Balto bike club w/ cue sheets
    http://www.baltobikeclub.org/index.pl/balto

    Southern MD club and cue
    http://www.ohbike.org/

    DC club and cues
    http://www.bikepptc.org/

    There's a club in Annapolis but don't know the name.

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    YaWn! Errr...! I spent way too much time setting up my new phone last night. Most of the time was spent getting to know where the menu items are, but I'm restored to nearly where I was before I lost my last phone.

    I really like the phone number backup/restore that Verizon offers. It really saved me a lot of time restoring phone numbers -and- apps.
    I would go blind if I spent all night setting up my phone. That's the number one reason to have children Setting up and maintaining computers is the 2nd reason to have kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post
    Sells out quick. Friend of mine up in Boston sent the link, sells out in a few hours, if I recall.

    But you said that the total 200 was not your style, too much of a hammer-fest, not that you can't hammer, hammer me into the pavement.
    I think the Harpoon ride has a minimum mph as well. But it has beer which is a great incentive-next year?

    I should be at the beach but my son's team is in LL playoffs tonight, even in rain apparently, so here I am. Took them to Hershey last night, camped, ate like a real American, and am in desperate need of long miles. sigh.

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    I think this ride is a bit shorter- sez that it's about 149 miles/7800' at 16mph. I probably made that comment about that 200 miler to Point Lookout from DC. That thing was like 18-20. Still, the Harpoon ride is hilly and quicker than I ride when in beer mode. Unless, of course, there's limited quantities.

    You riding either Flatlands or Chesapeake Beach this weekend? My ride's got an 80 mile option. Love to get some ride time in with ya Harry.

    BTW I've been doing a little networking to the DC Rand peeps. Christa plugged my ride on the list. Might see some southerners coming up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post

    BTW I've been doing a little networking to the DC Rand peeps. Christa plugged my ride on the list. Might see some southerners coming up for it.
    When is your ride...this week or next? This week is fathers day and both of my sisters are out of town thus I am the only one to celebrate fathers day with dad. I have missed many Fathers day but can't this year. Hopefully your ride is next week, that weekend is open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post
    I think this ride is a bit shorter- sez that it's about 149 miles/7800' at 16mph. I probably made that comment about that 200 miler to Point Lookout from DC. That thing was like 18-20. Still, the Harpoon ride is hilly and quicker than I ride when in beer mode. Unless, of course, there's limited quantities.

    You riding either Flatlands or Chesapeake Beach this weekend? My ride's got an 80 mile option. Love to get some ride time in with ya Harry.

    BTW I've been doing a little networking to the DC Rand peeps. Christa plugged my ride on the list. Might see some southerners coming up for it.
    Sunday is both Father's Day and my wife's birthday so no ride, though I want to do that 200k route someday. I'm going to plan on doing that Flatlands tour-but Janet G wants to do a 20+mph century which I find a bit too much. I would like to go fast but not a forced march.
    My son won his playoff game (he hit the winning RBI) so I'm not going away, game on Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HC203 View Post
    Sunday is both Father's Day and my wife's birthday so no ride, though I want to do that 200k route someday. I'm going to plan on doing that Flatlands tour-but Janet G wants to do a 20+mph century which I find a bit too much. I would like to go fast but not a forced march.
    My son won his playoff game (he hit the winning RBI) so I'm not going away, game on Friday.
    I'm planning on doing the Flatland Tour, too, but with the weather prediction, I doubt if anyone is going to be doing it at a 20 mph average, especially if the winds keep up. If the roads are still wet, no one is going to want to be just off of another's wheel, not even with fenders.
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    I revised my route to OCMD for 2009, here:

    http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...sex-MD-to-OCMD

    Comments? I'm attempting to make it a little more scenic, the tradeoff being that I ride further east on Route 40 so that I can go through Delaware City and Port Penn. My problem is that I don't know anything about the Delaware City bridge (approximately 1 mile long) on Rt 9 that crosses the canal. The other bridges that follow look to be of no problem.
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    I like the way BF abbreviated the route name.
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    Have you tried coming down Summit bridge rd?
    And, remind me again what stretch you nearly lost your life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post
    I like the way BF abbreviated the route name.
    lol! I was in such a hurry to get out of work that didn't notice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greaterbrown View Post
    Have you tried coming down Summit bridge rd?
    And, remind me again what stretch you nearly lost your life?
    Nearly lost my life on... Summit Bridge Rd--the mile (north side) BEFORE the bridge was under construction.

    Here's the link to the story...

    Where are the MD people's

    Hard to believe in a year we've posted this much (4270 vs. 1948).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HC203 View Post
    Took them to Hershey last night, camped, ate like a real American, and am in desperate need of long miles. sigh.
    I got back about 3 hours ago from a 4-night camping trip to an amusement park in PA (http://www.knoebels.com/) with my sister and my two nieces (8 and almost 7.) When I'm camping alone, I'm pretty much content with my "freeze-dried whatever-in-a-bag" meals, but my sister was horrified when I pulled one of those out the first night. She looooves to fire up the portable grill and roast large hunks of various forms of animal. I probably ate more meat these past few days than I do over 6 weeks . . . I am *so* carnivore'd out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRacer View Post
    I'm planning on doing the Flatland Tour, too, but with the weather prediction, I doubt if anyone is going to be doing it at a 20 mph average, especially if the winds keep up. If the roads are still wet, no one is going to want to be just off of another's wheel, not even with fenders.
    My Flatlands fell flat. Got up too late to get there for the century, not much enthusiasm either. Figured I'd show up for the metric. Skies opened as I pulled out of the school but I don't mind rain, passed many that turned back. I stopped to chat with a couple from NJ who were bagging it. A group of about ten passes, one guy says if you're doing the 63 then jump on, so I take my time catching them and then begin setting the pace, dropping a few and punishing the rest, just starting to feel good- And then my back flats. Haven't flatted in I don't know how many thousands of miles, so I'm due. I pull the sliver that did me in, confident that I can change my tube and catch these guys. Tube goes in, CO2 goes in, air comes out, not sure what happened but my spare she no good. I'm F(^%^#!!... Just before I left I decided to leave my second tube in the car and didn't have a patch kit. Another big lesson learned, no sag? bring everything and double it. I'm walking back along the road for a mile or so sticking my thumb out a bit, finally a nice couple stops, drives me back to my car (later in the day I saved a turtle crossing the street by my house, so the karma cycle is complete).
    I won't make this mistake again and my only solace is that I plan on doing a mini tour starting Tuesday where I'll be fully loaded including two of everything. Josh's experience on the CWC pre ride kept going through my head, the idea of calling my wife to the rescue from 65 miles out was not an option. Morning wasted, lesson learned.

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    Sounds like my Flatlands Tour (the full century) went better than Harry's.

    Not much pacelining today--the weather was not conducive to setting speed records anyway.

    No one had fenders and it wouldn't have mattered much as hard as it came down. By far, the scariest part was the lightning, especially when we were riding along tree-lines:

    http://bimactive.com/ba/journal/post/10783/23986

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    148 miles of hell!

    Just kidding.

    Great ride led by GB--thanks Bob!

    Some detail here:

    http://bimactive.com/ba/journal/post/10783/24032

    ...and since BiM is not rendering static maps (looks like their database is sucking wind), here's a link to the Google map route I/we took for the ride:

    http://bimactive.com/ba/ui/route_det..._routeID=23183

    BBC's Baltimore to Chesapeake Beach 200K Plus
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    Plus... because I rode to and from the ride start at Carroll Park on Washington Blvd downtown (as did the only other two riders to take up the challenge, Bob and Tiffany).

    Great ride! Lots of protected riding--protected from the wind (for the most part) and protected from the direct sunlight that finally emerged during the return leg.

    Besides me, there were two other riders--Bob (of course since he led the ride) and Tiffany (a triathlete who has or will be moving here from Philly). Tiffany did the Chesapeake Beach ride led by Janet G out of Crofton, MD a few months ago--one that I "bonked" on. I thought I remembered her from that ride, but she didn't remember it until we got into Chesapeake Beach and she recognized the area.

    Some of the "highlights" of the ride:

    - great scenery along the bay with lots of people visiting the beach area (North Beach, Chesapeake Beach)
    - Bob almost got "t-boned" by a deer that leaped out of the woods on to the road missing him by inches. (He's still probably catching his breath from that near collision.)
    - I saved a box tortoise from certain death on the road.

    Considering the fairly fast century from Chesapeake City Saturday (considering the weather), I felt pretty good. That is, until I got home. Once home, I felt a bit pukey (nauseous) and the chocolate milks that I had during the ride mixed with Gatorade... well, maybe I should skip the description.

    NOTE: I could not remove the stops from this ride file, because of problems on the database end at BiM, so the average speed is about 3 MPH slower than what's showing here. The clock keeps ticking away even when we stop. During the longest stops (i.e., breaks and lunch), I was able to suspend the cell phone application, so those stops are accounted for.

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    Route: --
    Elev. Avg: 82 ft
    Location: Essex, MD
    Elev. Gain: +0 ft
    Date: 06/21/09
    Up/Downhill: [+7237/-7237]
    Time: 05:34 PM
    Difficulty: 5.0 / 5.0

    Weather:
    Partly Cloudy
    80 F temp; 56% humidity
    81 F heat index; winds WNW 15 mph

    Performance
    Distance: 148.09 miles
    Time: 10:03:18
    Speed: 14.7 mph (including minor stops)
    Pace: 4' 05 /mi
    Calories: 7215
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