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Old 01-06-09, 06:00 PM   #2926
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I guess I'd have to keep looking at the screen huh? for "turn by turn"
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So if I plan a route I can alway look down at the screen to see, right? then I can zoom out to see if I missed a turn?

Also if I want to use BIM I can always just use it for a map also? in case I get lost or would one have to use VZ nav.

I know when we rode to monument ride you were checking the screen a few times for turns.

Thanks for answer my questions, I think you are the only one in BF with it, I showed the guy @ best buy and he was thrilled and know 10 people that would love it.

As you can tell I am sooo not trying to buy a new phone AND a gps device.
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So if I plan a route I can alway look down at the screen to see, right? then I can zoom out to see if I missed a turn?
Ok... I played with the Plan Activity page and it just isn't there. You can pre-load an activity which includes a map and a goal, but while BiM is running, you won't be able to see the map, you'll only see the Statistics page or you can "hide" BiM altogther, letting it run in the background (i.e., let's you use other features of your phone at the same time).


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Also if I want to use BIM I can always just use it for a map also? in case I get lost or would one have to use VZ nav.
VZNavigator will get you home or to wherever you want to go giving you turn by turn directions setable for a car, for a bicycle, or for walking/hiking. It lets you search for places close to your GPS position (i.e., gas stations, fast food, grocery stores, parks, etc). It can look up the weather at your GPS location or a location that you've searched for recently or that is in your "Favorites" (your destination), and tells you where you are if you you are lost (using Where am I?).

BiM can show you where you are on a map and give you the weather and record your movements including the stats that come with those movements. That's all.

You can't pre-load a route in either of the services.


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I know when we rode to monument ride you were checking the screen a few times for turns.
No, I was probably just looking at the cue sheet.


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Thanks for answer my questions, I think you are the only one in BF with it, I showed the guy @ best buy and he was thrilled and know 10 people that would love it.

As you can tell I am sooo not trying to buy a new phone AND a gps device.
No problem, Josh. Sorry, but neither service is going to give you what you're after.
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Gizmos

I'm in the market for an HR monitor as mine just died, replaced the battery not too long ago, probably see if that's it first. I would also like a bike computer with cadence, particularly as now I'm doing a lot more indoor training than out and it's based on HR and cadence.

I already have a GPS so not sure I would want to plunk down the cash for a Garmin 705. It's all very tempting but I feel that I need to do a bit more riding to justify it all.

I looked into Polar bike computers but if by chance I take this training and racing thing serious then I would probably want a power meter, most likely the i-bike aero. So back to the Garmin which will display the power data from the i-bike.

I really don't mind bringing cue sheets and not so interested in the navigation feature. When I first started riding back in NJ about twelve years ago the biggest thrill was just getting lost and then when I eventually got home I would pull out the county map and go "wow" I was all the way over there?

On Ocean City-I would have to swing something like meeting my family out there. Sounds like an epic ride that I would like to do, without the potential Death Race 2000 with the truck and the Jersey rail.
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On Ocean City-I would have to swing something like meeting my family out there. Sounds like an epic ride that I would like to do, without the potential Death Race 2000 with the truck and the Jersey rail.
Hopefully, the construction in that area will be done, but now, I'm more apt to go over the Chesapeake City bridge instead of chancing it again.

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I'm in the market for an HR monitor as mine just died, replaced the battery not too long ago, probably see if that's it first. I would also like a bike computer with cadence, particularly as now I'm doing a lot more indoor training than out and it's based on HR and cadence.

I already have a GPS so not sure I would want to plunk down the cash for a Garmin 705. It's all very tempting but I feel that I need to do a bit more riding to justify it all.

I looked into Polar bike computers but if by chance I take this training and racing thing serious then I would probably want a power meter, most likely the i-bike aero. So back to the Garmin which will display the power data from the i-bike.

I really don't mind bringing cue sheets and not so interested in the navigation feature. When I first started riding back in NJ about twelve years ago the biggest thrill was just getting lost and then when I eventually got home I would pull out the county map and go "wow" I was all the way over there?

On Ocean City-I would have to swing something like meeting my family out there. Sounds like an epic ride that I would like to do, without the potential Death Race 2000 with the truck and the Jersey rail.
Honestly I would just pick up an Edge 305 if you wanted to go the GPS route. I have been very happy with mine since I got it. The benefit I could see with the 705 is that you could literally just start riding and still find your way home. As I generally plan my routes I just map them on the computer and convert to a route. Then the breadcrumb is good enough for me. Even if I get lost you can point yourself in the general direction to get back to the start.

I also question the merits of the 705 gathering ibike data. I mean I can understand using the edge 705 as a head unit for a powertap or quarq. But with the ibike you still need to have the ibike on your bars as well.

If you want to go the ibike route you can have mine. I upgraded to the Gen 3 and the upgrade allowed you to keep your Gen 2 unit. You would need to buy a wireless mount, sensors and HR strap for it.

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As you can tell I am sooo not trying to buy a new phone AND a gps device.
Sign up for an account at bimactive.com and ask some of these questions in the forums. Jon and the guys over there are pretty responsive and are always looking for ideas for features to add. You can also ask them which current VW phones they support or will support in the near future. I used BiM for a while before I got my Edge 305, but like the site so much that I still upload my ride data there and use the blog (although not as much as I should).
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I also question the merits of the 705 gathering ibike data. I mean I can understand using the edge 705 as a head unit for a powertap or quarq. But with the ibike you still need to have the ibike on your bars as well.

If you want to go the ibike route you can have mine. I upgraded to the Gen 3 and the upgrade allowed you to keep your Gen 2 unit. You would need to buy a wireless mount, sensors and HR strap for it.

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I had thought having the 705 and i-bike would be overkill as you would get the readout on the i-bike, why need it on both? I got my hr to work last night on my piddly 45 min trainer session. Seems it is the battery as it worked for about ten minutes and then faded out, but I swear I've replaced that battery twice in less than a year, though have used it quite a bit.
The offer of the i-bike is very generous but I would need to give you something or swap. I guess I could pickup the mount and sensors on their site.

I have a Garmin Vista which I've been using for tracking but the base map is so pathetic that it wasn't very good for finding ones way. I have a Mac and that has been an issue, now Garmin offers a topo map with streets for Mac. On the verge of plunking down the $80.00 for that so I can get some use of the unit.
I had originally bought it for geo-caching with my son. Of course the bike mount doesn't fit my wider diameter bars.


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Squish, squish, squish...There was a silver lining in those rain clouds today...no ice. Last night I went to bed thinking I might be facing an icy commute. I was pleased to see rain...well not pleased but relieved it was only rain. Everything is hanging in the pump room drying. I really have to breakdown and buy something to keep my feet dry. I used grocery bags(different colors as I was styling) for my feet but one got caught in the chain and self destructed.

An overnighter is fine. PA is a good destination for that trip. We can easily bring a cooler for that as well as steaks, salad and deserts
Barry I liked the concept of the history tour. The link showed a route under development??? At least I think it did.
NR: Your trip to OC is a maybe but that's a long MF. What was it, 130? Then a 18MPH ride(or faster), then a return?
I am still going to map out a route through southern Maryland and a ferry.
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The History trail is under development by Rails to Trails. If we do the loop we can get some press out of the deal as they are looking to promote the route.
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Hey, guys. Sometimes the work computer system has unexpected fits of paranoia -- usually the Bike Forums site is fine, but yesterday, I kept getting flashing messages of impending doom every time I tried to access it. Today -- at least for the moment -- it seems all good.

So, I was going over my leave situation, and my other recreational plans for the year, and my conclusion is that I should be able to take 3 or 4 weekdays off for a tour (I have off on weekends), with a few one-sies or half-days left over to do a couple of one-nighters also. I'll toss in May 13 (my birthday! ) as a potential start date. Sunday May 10 is Mother's Day (and no amount of marital equity is getting you boys out of that one! ) Or maybe May 5-ish? I have a possible conflict on Saturday, 2 May, but I could probably work around it, although the further we get back toward April, the more uncertain the weather will be.

I went camping/hiking in Shenandoah National Park for the first time last year, and I have to say, I'm not too keen on the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway as my first loaded tour. It's beautiful as can be, but Lordy, that's a narrow road, and full of drivers who are gawking out their side windows!

For some reason, I also think incorporating a ferry ride is a cool idea. I've never been to Smith or Tangier Islands (and they're not gonna be around forever!) Or maybe something shorter -- Atlantic Cycling used to do a ride out of St. Michaels (I think -- maybe Easton?) that incorporated a trip on the Oxford-Bellevue (again, I think!) ferry.

I like Southern Maryland, too, so those suggestions would also be fine with me.

NoRacer, I am sooo tempted by a July 4th ride to O.C., and because the 4th is a Saturday this year, we get the 3rd off as a holiday. I may have to work, though -- I think some other people in the office might be taking leave around that time. Have to ponder that further.
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I used grocery bags(different colors as I was styling) for my feet but one got caught in the chain and self destructed.
Sandals and tights, they keep the bags away from the chain and keep the bag intact for recycled use for your lunch the next day.
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Hey does anyone know what happened to Avalon Cycles in Elkridge? They have a voicemail setup saying they are closed and will be under now ownership, Mobtown Velo or somethig like that. Any insight?
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Sandals and tights, they keep the bags away from the chain and keep the bag intact for recycled use for your lunch the next day.
always the recycler.
Sandals, I know you are a big promoter of them. I've toyed with the idea but never like the price of them and think you are going to be cold in the dead of winter. Did you ride this morning and were your feet warm? Maybe w/ sealskinz under them.
I was on a motorcycle site and they have these boots covers.
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If it keeps motorcyclist happy then it's gotta keep bicyclists dry...hopefully. While not as stylish as grocery bags I can wear my regular commuting shoes under them. I commute on flats so clips not a problem.
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Hey does anyone know what happened to Avalon Cycles in Elkridge? They have a voicemail setup saying they are closed and will be under now ownership, Mobtown Velo or somethig like that. Any insight?
Really! they weren't there very long. I liked the location since it was close to my train stop. There are no more Catonsville bike shops and this was the closest one we had. I think Race Pace(HoCo) is keeping the competion at bay.
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NR: Your trip to OC is a maybe but that's a long MF. What was it, 130? Then a 18MPH ride(or faster), then a return?
It's 189 miles one way if you take the more scenic route that goes past the wild life refuges along the coast. Also, there's an extra 20 miles due to the crossing at the Conowingo Dam. When I planned the ride, I wasn't attempting to travel the straightest/fastest way from point A to point B.

If there are more people, we can use each other to block the wind for each other--usually it comes from the South, so it'd be a headwind going toward OCMD--usually.

My average moving speed against the headwind was in the 15 MPH +0/-1 range.

The return didn't occur until the following Sunday. If the 4th falls on a Saturday this year, I would take time off from work and leave on Wednesday or Thursday, instead.



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NoRacer, I am sooo tempted by a July 4th ride to O.C., and because the 4th is a Saturday this year, we get the 3rd off as a holiday. I may have to work, though -- I think some other people in the office might be taking leave around that time. Have to ponder that further.
Let me know. The more the merrier!
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Last night-I mentioned Ocean City for the fourth and of course the kids were into it. They've never been there, believe it or not. I then told my wife that I would ride out and meet there.

189 miles-Looks like a dawn to dusk ride.
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I just put in a new avatar from a bottle wine my wife gave me....Cycle Gladiator. I liked the picture.
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touring

As for bike touring. I can probably work around whatever you guys plan. It will be little league season so I may miss one of my son's games. Charlie, I would say map out whatever route you like. I can put together a map as well based on some of the AC route and then we can cross check and fine tune.

I would say early May or late April, depending on when those ferries are running. Here's a journal that I found through the AC website. I haven't read it but looks like the guy took a week to do the whole Tidewater route. I'm sure we could come up with a decent long weekend route.

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mornin' all: dicy icy commute this AM. I left home and temps seemed decent so did not worry about the wet areas. Made it to the train, no problems. Didn't even seem icy. I believed temps were above freezing. This was not the case for the Beltsville segment of my commute. It was colder and all wet areas frozen. Last nights fog turned to frost/ice everywhere, even on the train platform. This riding was dicey especially with the folder. Made it with no major problems, just some slipping here and there. My question: Anyone ride early-6ish this morning in Baltimore. Was it as icy as Beltsville? Anyone scrape their windshield? Was I clueless or was there a real temp difference between the 2 cities?
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Hey Anyone have any experiences w/ this waterproof overboot? I posted on the commuting forum as well.
http://www.overshoesonline.com/vis1/...r-Overshoe.htm
Looks a little bulky but after yesterdays soaking ride I am ready to try just about anything. I have also found some interesting motorcycle overboots.
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mornin' all: dicy icy commute this AM. I left home and temps seemed decent so did not worry about the wet areas. Made it to the train, no problems. Didn't even seem icy. I believed temps were above freezing. This was not the case for the Beltsville segment of my commute. It was colder and all wet areas frozen. Last nights fog turned to frost/ice everywhere, even on the train platform. This riding was dicey especially with the folder. Made it with no major problems, just some slipping here and there. My question: Anyone ride early-6ish this morning in Baltimore. Was it as icy as Beltsville? Anyone scrape their windshield? Was I clueless or was there a real temp difference between the 2 cities?
+1; rode at 5:15am

Had to slow way down due to icy spots.

Ice
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Intersection of Linda Ave & King Ave (White Marsh)
Spots of ice on Fowler Ave (White Marsh)
Spots of ice on Wilson Ave (White Marsh)
Ice along the edge of Taylor Ave between Perring Pkwy and Harford Rd
Ice spots on Taylor Ave between Perring Pkwy & Loch Raven Blvd
Ice spots on Putty Hill AVe between Loch Raven Blvd and Lasalle Rd
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+1; rode at 5:15am

Had to slow way down due to icy spots.

Ice
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Intersection of Linda Ave & King Ave (White Marsh)
Spots of ice on Fowler Ave (White Marsh)
Spots of ice on Wilson Ave (White Marsh)
Ice along the edge of Taylor Ave between Perring Pkwy and Harford Rd
Ice spots on Taylor Ave between Perring Pkwy & Loch Raven Blvd
Ice spots on Putty Hill AVe between Loch Raven Blvd and Lasalle Rd
I must have been in LaLa land. Never notice the Baltimore ice.

Attention City cyclist: Best route to Cedarcroft area from the Penn Station
I was going to take:
Jones Falls Trail to that uphill squiggly section to
left Keswick then ride it all the way to
Right on Wyndhurst head east to Homeland and cut through there.
OR:
Would taking University/Roland be a better alternative to Keswick during this evenings rush hour. Remember I am on a folder so my typical 'machismo' biking ways are repressed Thanks
PS I leave for the train at 3, so if you are reading this later please disregard.
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For Saturday - [Sung to the melody of "Slow Ride" by Foghat]

Snow ride, take it easy - Snow ride, take it easy,
Snow ride, take it easy - Snow ride, take it easy.

I'm in the mood, the weather is right,
Move away from the shoulder, we can roll all night.
Oooh, oooh, snow ride - oooh, oooh ...

Snow ride, take it easy
Snow ride, take it easy

Snow ride, take it easy - Snow ride, take it easy
Slow down, or you'll go down, need studded tires one more time
Holy, moley, snow ridin' bike you're so fine

{Tabb and Lamb riffs**

Woo!

I'm in the mood, the weather is right,
Move away from the shoulder, we can roll all night.
Oooh, oooh, ...

Snow ride, take it easy - Snow ride, take it easy
Slow down, or you'll go down, need studded tires one more time
Holy, moley, snow ridin' bike you're so fine

(Snow ride, easy, snow ride, it be freezy - Snow ride, easy, snow ride, freezy)



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Charlie, you looking for directions to Cedarcroft? Either of those routes sound fine. You would be about a mile from my house.

Isaias-Have you heard of a ride on Saturday? I e-mailed Crista today to get on her list. I'm dying to get on my bike. One thing the trainer will do is make you appreciate the road. I can't believe you're on the road at 5:30 am!!!!
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