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Old 01-10-09, 10:44 AM   #2976
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I didn't know they were contemplating allowing full size bikes. If they had the railcars that had dedicated bike hangers it would be FANTASTIC, but I can't figure out where a full size bike is supposed to go either. I ride the train everyday with a Brompton, which has one of the smallest folded packages out there and I can't even imagine having to deal with a bigger folder on a day to day basis. Mine just fits in the little luggage compartments they have at one end of each car.
They are redesigning some of the cars to accept full sized bikes, how I don't know. Platforms vary in height and length. This will be the most difficult obstacle. I assume that there will be a 'space' inside for all full sized bikes so others don't have to climb over them. BUT the trains often open doors in front OR rear cars depending on the stations platform.

Barry bummer, I hope you recover quickly. That stretch of Falls sucks, lots of ruts with no room to wiggle. There's also a lot of ice on the Jones Falls trail. I rolled over it SLOWLY yesterday. It was bummer to hear about the Mayor. She was so 'PRO' cycling. Looks like a lot of nickle & dime complaints. They were looking for bribery and didn't find any.

Harry: Harpoon beer ride talks about biking but no mention about beer. Sorry, that doesn't qualify. Before you buy a folder you might want to ride one. I have a low end Dahon and am not impressed. Forget mashing, forget standing up, forget comfort, squirrly front end. The more expensive models might be great but this one ain't. The only reason I keep it is to use the local trains. It is fine for flat roads/trails but when a hill needs to be climbed they do not crank. At least that is my impression. I could outfit to fit me better but don't want to spend the money for a bike I use 10 times a years.

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Where's the snow?

Woke up this morning, didn't see anything coming out of the sky so went out and did some miles. I gotta get the footwear thing down, toes were purple when I returned despite the chemical toe warmers, which I'm beginning to think are worthless.

Charlie-Despite my cynicism about the state of mass transit in the U.S I'm always excited when I hear about advances. I would love to be able to take the train down to DC, ride around all day and not have to ride all the way back to Bmore. I imagine they'll have to put the special bike car in the middle of the train to platform every station. I hear the Bike Friday folding bike is good. My friend has one and said similarly that it's not the bike you want to do a century on, though he did.

NR-Good pics of the Sykesville ride. The Butler store is of course very familiar, stopped there many times.

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Old 01-10-09, 02:16 PM   #2978
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Man I gotta pay attention more often to the rides that pass right in front of my house.

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Yup, it looks like the Pyched Out ride, passed your neighborhood twice.
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Two Peninsula Ride 20090110

Just made this one up as I went--easy to do when you can record the route on the GPS phone.

http://bimactive.com/ba/journal/post/10783/19889

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This is just a ride on a peninsula in Dundalk and one in the Essex area (to Cox's Point) and Middle River area (Rocky Point & Turkey Point).

I didn't eat very well last night, suspecting that there wasn't going to be a DC Randonneur ride on Saturday, so three-quarters through the ride, I got very hungry. I decided to head home to get something to eat, but I would have liked to have added two more peninsula to this ride--out by Wilson Point and another closer to Chase, MD.
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Route: -- Elev. Avg: 24 ft 
Location: Essex, MD,  Elev. Gain: -4 ft 
Date: 01/10/09 Up/Downhill: [+1328/-1332] 
Time: 01:53 PM Difficulty: 4.8 / 5.0 
 
Weather: Cloudy 
  38 F temp; 58% humidity 
  38 F heat index; winds ENE 8 mph 
 
Performance
Distance: 45.61 miles   
Time: 2:52:12 
Speed: 15.9 mph   
Pace: 3' 46 /mi Heart Rate: 147 bpm (Avg) 
Calories: 2150  172 bpm (Peak) 
 
Notes - Powermeter Data
Entire workout (164 watts):
 
Duration: 2:31:27  <---iBike shut off for 20 minutes somewhere during ride
Work: 1494 kJ
TSS: 134.3 (intensity factor 0.729)
Norm Power: 190
VI: 1.15
Pw:HR: 9.03%
Pa:HR: 0.69%
Distance: 41.132 mi  <---iBike shut off for 20 minutes somewhere during ride
Elevation Gain: 1613 ft
Elevation Loss: 1494 ft
Grade: 0.1 % (119 ft)
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..........Min Max Avg
Power: 0 816 164 watts
Heart Rate: 112 172 147 bpm
Cadence: 4 154 81 rpm
Speed: 0 31.1 16.3 mph
Pace 1:56 0:00 3:41 min/mi
Altitude: 33 233 102 ft
Crank Torque: 0 929 171 lb-in
Wind Speed: 0 35.3 17.5 mph
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Saturday Ride

Starting a new job Monday (new hours 7-330, I haven't got off this early in 10 years)!and pressed for time as I had places to go and things to do before then, so I got up at 530am (the time I will need to start waking up now anyway since work is in Landover! no more bike commuting ) and hit the road , Saw a huge patch of ice on holabird, saw it just in time, I got in 20 miles from Dundalk to Ft McHenry and back. NO, absolutly no cars @ 530am, I saw one bike ninja and several joggers in the city. On the way back there was some cars but not many. I got a flat at Mars @ holabird and had to change it out, now I only have 5 tubes w/holes laying around that I SHOULD patch at some point. I am weird about my bag tube being a patched one, now a patched back up back up I'm ok.After the ride I ran to Bike doctor and picked up another CO2 (I so should buy a real pump) and a new tube.

City Streets were well lit all around,since I winged the ride, most of my lights were about dead. charging for tomm though.

It was nice seeing bike specific route signs to fort mchenry, i didn't expect that.

I'm going to do the same tommorow, or something like it, my route from today is below, took about 1.25 hours, no clue on avg as I forgot to reset the speedo.

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Two Peninsula Ride 20090110

Just made this one up as I went--easy to do when you can record the route on the GPS phone.

http://bimactive.com/ba/journal/post/10783/19889
Love this idea for a route, NR. Put some more points in there and I'd happily ride it with you.
One could add: North and Sparrows Pt, Briar Pt at the end of Bowley's, Strawberry Pt is opposite Wilson at the end of the airport and then Marshy Pt. north of Carroll island)
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Love this idea for a route, NR. Put some more points in there and I'd happily ride it with you.
One could add: North and Sparrows Pt, Briar Pt at the end of Bowley's, Strawberry Pt is opposite Wilson at the end of the airport and then Marshy Pt. north of Carroll island)
+1, that's the ride I envisioned--just couldn't quite execute.
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DC Randonneur Ride - "How Green Was My Valley"

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SUNDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2009

"HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY," starting from Chuck's house in Rockville.
MEETING TIME 7:30 a.m. As you may have figured, the first 10 miles or
so of this ride are the standard Rockville-Olney escape route, but after
that the ride becomes rural, very scenic, and VERY HILLY. We'll be
riding in a northwesterly direction into the Frederick Valley on our way
to Woodsboro, where we'll have lunch at Trout's Town Restaurant. Good
idea to fuel up well at lunch, as we'll tackle the length of Coppermine
Road upon leaving town and encounter lots of "scenery" as we head back.
Great news: the last 25 miles from Mt. Airy back to Chuck's are an
honestly mellow cruise! 101 miles, with short options of 68 or 88.
Estimated elevation gain 6500-7000 feet.
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Today's ride should be renamed "How Blue Was MD108".

There were 10 riders participating--Jeff1, Jeff2, Chuck & Crista (tandem 1), Ed and Mary (tandem 2), Bennett, Gary, Michael, and me.

Ed and Mary rode ahead since they left from a park on Zion Rd--the remaining riders left with Crista & Chuck.

The ride went well from Rockville to Olney. It wasn't until we made a right hand turn on to MD108, Olney Layton Rd, from Riggs Rd that ice consistently appeared along the shoulder of the road and it seemed to be getting more prevalent the further north we rode.

After a couple tenths of a mile roll by I hear the unmistakable sound of riders going down behind me. Apparently, Michael had hit a patch of ice. Then, Jeff1 rides over top of Michael, flips over and goes down, followed by Jeff2.

I yelled up the road, "Riders Down!", to Crista and Chuck and Gary who were ahead.

Everyone converges on the fallen riders as they picked themselves up off of the road, except for Jeff2 who wound up getting the wind knocked out of him. He came to a stop along the side of the road in the grass. He sat there a while until he felt better.

Jeff1 seemed to have sustained the most damage. He had some road rash on his face (left cheek and chin). Michael's kit showed wear marks near the left knee and left shoulder and elbow. Jeff2 stated he felt ill after getting the wind knocked out of him, but that he was starting to feel better.

Crista called Ed & Mary on the cell phone to let them know what had happened, requesting status of the roads ahead, so that they could make a decision as to whether we should turn back or not. A few minutes later Ed & Mary pull up and join the group.

In the meantime, I pull out my First Aid kit and ask the fallen riders whether they would like to use it. Jeff1 accepts some Neosporin oitment for the road rash on his face and takes a couple ibuprofen as well. Jeff2 says he's feeling ok, now. He buckles the chin strap of his helmet this time. Michael says he's just getting a little stiff around the shoulder, but he doesn't think he needs anything at the moment.

Crista & Chuck decide to ride to a 7-Eleven just up the road. We take the paved trail that runs parallel to the road. Fortunately, there was no ice on the trail surface.

At the 7-Eleven Jeff1 notices that an index finger knuckle is very swollen. The skin looks white like fluid is building up under the skin, stretching it a little. He gets a bag of ice to place on it, but for the time that we were at the store, it doesn't seem to be going down much.

In the meantime, everyone else is getting coffee or hot chocolate and snacks.

Chuck suggests to Jeff1 that he stay at the 7-Eleven while we ride back to Chuck's house. Chuck will get his car and drive back to the 7-Eleven to pick Jeff1 and his bike up. Ed chimed in that his car is closer--that he and Mary could get their car and pick Jeff up.

So, the group rides back to the park on Zion Rd where Ed & Mary parked their car. They go to pick Jeff1 up, the rest of us ride back to Chuck's house.

At Chuck's house, most everyone calls it a day, but Chuck & Crista want to do some more riding--this time heading south toward D.C. I decide that I will go with them. Bennett comes along as well.

We ride south into the Tacoma Park area where we stop for lunch. Chuck, Bennett, and I have the all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet. Crista has lentil soup and a bagel with peanut butter.

We noticed that the further south we went, the warmer it felt. In fact, we had some sunshine along the way in spots. But, the clouds would not completely relinquish their hold on the day. Neither would the winds from the north. They seemed to have picked up a little since lunch. Fortunately, much of the ride back to Rockville was on wind protected trails and roads.

We arrived back at Chuck's house at about 1pm and after a total of 69 miles--short day! Thankfully, we had no more incidents to report. In general, the day turned out nice.

By the way, we spotted wildlife during the ride--deer, a fox and her kit, and even an albino squirrel! Pretty cool!

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Route: -- Elev. Avg: 335 ft 
Location: Aspen Hill, MD,  Elev. Gain: -3 ft 
Date: 01/11/09 Up/Downhill: [+4025/-4028] 
Time: 01:04 PM Difficulty: 5.0 / 5.0 
 
Weather: 
  Cloudy 
  36 F temp; 58% humidity 
  36 F heat index; winds NNW 14 mph 
 
Performance
Distance: 67.35 miles   
Time: 4:34:53 
Speed: 14.7 mph   
Pace: 4' 05 /mi Heart Rate: 136 bpm (Avg) 
Calories: 3144  167 bpm (Peak) 
 
Notes
POWERMETER DATA
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Entire workout (120 watts):  
 
Duration: 4:30:24
Work: 1955 kJ
TSS: 179.8 (intensity factor 0.632) <---Must've been a rest day :rolleyes:
Norm Power: 164
VI: 1.36
Pw:HR: -2.01%
Pa:HR: 11.73%
Distance: 68.817 mi
Elevation Gain: 3670 ft
Elevation Loss: 3768 ft
Grade: -0.0 % (-99 ft)
 
..........Min Max Avg
Power: 0 663 120 watts
Heart Rate: 78 167 136 bpm
Cadence: 1 112 69 rpm
Speed: 0 32.1 15.3 mph
Pace 1:52 0:00 3:56 min/mi
Altitude: 51 658 348 ft
Crank Torque: 0 1405 145 lb-in
Wind Speed: 0 36.5 12.8 mph
Hill Slope: -19.7 11.9 0.4 %
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ouch. ouch. ouch.
I don't like these crash stories. I'm a wimp when it comes to crashes.
And no, I do not plan to HTFU.
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NO, absolutly no cars @ 530am, I saw one bike ninja and several joggers in the city.

http://veloroutes.org/bikemaps/?route=25242#
5:30 on a weekend!! I gotta catch up on my beauty sleep.

I do love the dark empty streets though.
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NR sounds like a nasty crash. I hope no broken bones. This is always my fear when riding in a peloton.
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NR sounds like a nasty crash. I hope no broken bones. This is always my fear when riding in a peloton.
So far, I have not heard of any broken bones. Jeff1's swollen finger wasn't broken, but the doctor said that it may be a busted blood vessel.

Jeff2 was lucky. He has a habit of not using the chin strap on his helmet. I think this was a wake-up call for him. He's a tough guy, but a blow to the head is nothing to mess around with even for the toughest.

Michael was still complaining of stiffness in his shoulder once we got back to Chuck's house. His status is Unknown.
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NR sounds like a nasty crash. I hope no broken bones. This is always my fear when riding in a peloton.
By the way, if you think rec ride crashes are scarey, you should try riding in a racing peloton once--20+ mph speeds, shoulder to shoulder/handlebar to handlebar close.
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Jeff2 was lucky. He has a habit of not using the chin strap on his helmet. I think this was a wake-up call for him.
What's the point of wearing the helmet? I mean they look dorkey so if you're not going to strap it then it's just a funny looking hat.

That was a scary ride report, that and Barry's mishap have me being very careful. No ice at Montebello of course but had my eyes open on the "F" work ride this morning. Ride report later.

You can go down so fast and hard, broken teeth, fat lip, I don't want any of that.
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The "F" Work Monday Morning Ride.

Just a quick report on the Monday morning "F" work ride, short ride. Told GB he could write it but he's at work and I'm still hardly working!

GB and I decided to take a little ride this morning, he wanted to try out a new route, I agreed. I rode down to the ride start at Montebello, a route I'm familiar with. We then headed out onto Harford Rd to Walther etc. heading north east towards Loch Raven. We missed a couple turns coming out of the city but no big deal, backtracked a bit, found a few hills in those close in suburbs. Just loaded Google Maps on my Blackberry and that helped a little, not much as at one point it showed our location as being dead center in the middle of the beltway.
Poof, all of the sudden we are in the woods heading north on Harford Rd. and Long Green. I think we hit some wind there as my lumox pace was even more lumoxy.
Things got good as we headed west on Sweet Air and I particularly liked the left we took on Blenheim then Dance Mill. Familiar ride through Loch Raven at a conversational pace, saw another group heading opposite, GB said he spotted Lukasz. Up to Providence where I had planned on heading west to Towson and home. GB decided to go that way as well then to Seminary and on to work. I hit a small wall coming up Providence to Goucher, wind, pavement, hill, breakfast or lack thereof.
Toodled on home.

GPS track on Mapmyride. GPS elevation says 2752, which I have no way of verifying,my device has had wild fluctuations. Seems like we did a bit of climbing, particularly liked Factory Rd. Map My Ride has the elevation but doesn't always load.

http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united...e/938613270331

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Hello all, does anyone have a trainer block for sale maybe? I got the wife a trainer, travel trac 3 fluid and need a block. I tried being cheap and put so card board under the front wheel, wife wasn't going for it. If no one has one, I guess I'll just pony up the $20 and get one.

Also because of new job I got home a little after 4pm, so when the glen arm gang or whatever it is does their tues and thurs night rides I can go! I was told they hold a pretty fast pace, I wanna see if I can keep up.

I'm still going to try to squeeze in riding when I get home even now I'll have close to an hour of ride before it gets dark. Not commuting sucks.
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Hello all, does anyone have a trainer block for sale maybe? I got the wife a trainer, travel trac 3 fluid and need a block. I tried being cheap and put so card board under the front wheel, wife wasn't going for it. If no one has one, I guess I'll just pony up the $20 and get one.

Also because of new job I got home a little after 4pm, so when the glen arm gang or whatever it is does their tues and thurs night rides I can go! I was told they hold a pretty fast pace, I wanna see if I can keep up.

I'm still going to try to squeeze in riding when I get home even now I'll have close to an hour of ride before it gets dark. Not commuting sucks.
I used a phone book under the front wheel at one time, but I have a block, now. I haven't used it for awhile, except as a part holder. If you want it, you can have it. I prefer my rollers if I'm going to ride inside--which hasn't been for a couple of years, now.

Glen Arm gang? I know of a Glenelg Gang.

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Tues. & Thurs. Night Rides (Howard County) -- Do a 26 to 35 mile loop with the "Glenelg Gang." Distance depends on the time of year and how fast you ride. This is a fast training ride but everyone is welcome. Ride starts at Glenelg High School, 14025 Burnt Woods Rd, Howard County. Take I-70 West to RT 32 South. Right turn at traffic light onto Access Road to Burnt Woods Rd due to construction. Ride start times are:

March 13th through April: 5:45 pm.
May through August: 6:00 pm.
September: 5:45 pm.
October: 5:30 pm.
Note these are the roll out times so make sure you arrive early enough to get ready to roll.
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I generally just use a couple old books. They get drenched in sweat so probably not a good thing to do with something you want to keep. For the past few days I'm finding frozen toes to be better than boredom, so I'm getting out.
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I generally just use a couple old books. They get drenched in sweat so probably not a good thing to do with something you want to keep. For the past few days I'm finding frozen toes to be better than boredom, so I'm getting out.
The last 2 days were a "warm" up for the rest of the week. Single digits by weeks end I was warm enough today(2 socks, 2 gloves, wind proof boxers). Probably should have saved the boxers for later in the week.

For those of you going to the inauguration check out WABA's site. Lots of bike restrictions. They have valet at north and south ends of DC. You'll have to walk from those points. Gonna be a zoo.....haven't made up my mind yet. My daughter wants to go so might do it for her but 3 million people
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Old 01-13-09, 08:05 AM   #2995
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The last 2 days were a "warm" up for the rest of the week. Single digits by weeks end I was warm enough today(2 socks, 2 gloves, wind proof boxers). Probably should have saved the boxers for later in the week.
I guess I should HTFU(Bob you don't have too)

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Yah, HTFU! How the heck do these people keep their toes warm, or at least not frost bitten? I imagine they wear regular boots not bike specific. I might wear my old motorcycle goggles when I ride today, but for my toes I know they'll be frozen after 20 miles.
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Yah, HTFU! How the heck do these people keep their toes warm, or at least not frost bitten?
I have been such a slacker this winter, but back when I *used* to HTFU . . . I have an extra pair of shoes, identical to the ones I usually wear, but a size too big. I wear two pairs of heavy wool hiking socks. And sometimes Pearl Izumi (I think that's the current brand, I've gone through a couple) toe covers. I should add that they are mountain bike shoes, not roadie shoes . . . so they're not as tight, or at least form-fitting, as roadies, which I think is death to efforts to try to stay warm.
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I wear "roadie" SIDIs. No problem.

Process:
1 - embrocate tops of feet using thick Aquaphor creme/ointment. (Actually, in cold weather, I do this all over, not just feet.)
2 - put on wicking socks (thin CoolMax WrightSocks)
3 - put on thick wool socks (el cheapo from SAMS)
4 - put on SIDI road shoes, leaving them as loose around the toes as possible (air space is your friend)
5 - pull on Performance neoprene booties
6 - pull on fabric shoe covers

That is all. Haven't had cold feet in so long, I haven't given it a second thought.

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I wear "roadie" SIDIs. No problem.

Process:
1 - embrocate tops of feet using thick Aquaphor creme/ointment. (Actually, in cold weather, I do this all over, not just feet.)
2 - put on wicking socks (thin CoolMax WrightSocks)
3 - put on thick wool socks (el cheapo from SAMS)
4 - put on SIDI road shoes, leaving them as loose around the toes as possible (air space is your friend)
5 - pull on Performance neoprene booties
6 - pull on fabric shoe covers

That is all. Haven't had cold feet in so long, I haven't given it a second thought.
My Sidis are almost too loose in summer with thin socks but won't accommodate many layers in winter.

Yesterday I wore this and it was tight but not uncomfortable. No room though and like you say, that is key.

Smartwool socks
chemical toe warmers under toes applied to sock
neoprene socks(Performance)
Sidi shoes
heavy fleece shoe covers from Performance

This kept my feet toasty for most of the ride. I was out in the weather from 7:30am to around 11:30.
I could feel the cold creeping in around 10:30 or so. The chemical warmers may have staved off the cold for a bit but those things were bone cold when I got home. Don't think I'll be buying them anymore though may buy a pair of mtb. shoes one size up. Tempted by the Sidi winter mtb shoes, but steep price.
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Yah, HTFU! How the heck do these people keep their toes warm, or at least not frost bitten? I imagine they wear regular boots not bike specific. I might wear my old motorcycle goggles when I ride today, but for my toes I know they'll be frozen after 20 miles.
Not sure how these work yet as I just bought them last night but they are called Toe Warmers. They are a cloth treated with some sort of chemical that warms when taken out of the bag and air comes in contact with it. Same as hand warmers hunters use. They are made to go inside your shoes and either over or under your toes.
Here is link http://www.warmers.com/ItemDetails.aspx?itemid=TWES40

My toes get very cold so I am excited to try these out soon.

Edit......should have read thread all the way before posting..looks like you know about these.

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