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    Poughkeepsie Area Bike Trails to Join Up

    Two articles in this past week's Poughkeepsie Journal announced some great news. The currently under construction Dutchess Rail Trail will be expanded to join up with the abandoned Pok Hudson River RR bridge (to be refurbished with a walkway), and connect up with the trail on the Ulster County side.

    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...805280336/1006

    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/a...51/1006/news11
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    Memorial Day weekend I took my bike up to Duchess Co. for a ride (the very enjoyable Quaker Ridge route from the bikehudson website) and noticed that RR bridge while driving across the river at Poughkeepsie. Sounds like a great project - should be a dramatic ride - that thing is high and spindly-looking!

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    Walkway Over the Hudson will provide a wonderful link between the two counties when completed in Sept. 2009. Hopefully the trail links will be complete at each end at the same time. In any event it will provide for a one of a kind view at over 6700' long and 212' above the river.
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    I hope the path over the Poughkeepsie railroad bridge turns out to be "wonderful" -- but for bicyclists we've already got a "link" across the river between Ulster and Dutchess counties -- actually two links.

    Sharon and I rode our bicycle from Poughkeepsie to Highland (and on to Wallkill) across the Mid-Hudson Bridge just a week and a half ago. Likely we'll ride across it again in the other direction in the next couple of weeks. The Kingston-Rhinecliff bridge has been open to bicyclists for several years, and we rode across it about a month ago.

    The main drawback with the sidewalk on the Mid-Hudson bridge is that it's normally closed at night. Is this new third link over the railroad bridge going to be open at night?

    "view" -- It's not easy to create a better view over the Hudson river than from the south sidewalk of the Newburgh-Beacon bridge, or either side while riding across the Bear Mountain bridge. And riding West-bound across the Kingston-Rhinecliff bridge on a crisp morning in mid-October looking at the Catskill mountains with tree in full color. Or East-bound on the south sidewalk of the George Washington bridge on any sunny morning. The bar for "view" competition for Hudson river crossings has been set pretty high.

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    I was on a walking tour of the railroad bridge when they were fundraising for it. It is anything but spindly - remember, trains used to cross it. It is built like a fortress!

    The railroad bridge's current plans call for it to be lighted and open at night.

    BTW, the view is spectacular.

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    I cannot help but be concerned that Steinhaus will not get the support to continue the projects in light of the sagging economy. They are months late on getting going on the next section of the Dutchess trail, and they still need to secure the land from DCC to the bridge. I'm getting bored riding the two miles that's near completion just outside of Hopewell!

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    On 6/11/08 the Town of Lloyd had a public information meeting giving an overview of the project and estimated dates. The initial plan calls for a completion date of Sept/Oct 2009. This coincides with the Walkways completion date. This is for the Ulster County side. While some minor things need to be fine tuned it looks pretty darn good. It would be a shame (embarrassing) for Bill not to get with the plan on his side of the river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Roberts View Post
    I hope the path over the Poughkeepsie railroad bridge turns out to be "wonderful" -- but for bicyclists we've already got a "link" across the river between Ulster and Dutchess counties -- actually two links.

    Sharon and I rode our bicycle from Poughkeepsie to Highland (and on to Wallkill) across the Mid-Hudson Bridge just a week and a half ago. Likely we'll ride across it again in the other direction in the next couple of weeks. The Kingston-Rhinecliff bridge has been open to bicyclists for several years, and we rode across it about a month ago.

    The main drawback with the sidewalk on the Mid-Hudson bridge is that it's normally closed at night. Is this new third link over the railroad bridge going to be open at night?



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    Actually one must walk their bikes across if you read the posted signs on the Mid-Hudson Bridge. If I want to walk I usually leave the bike home. To answer the night time question , I believe it will be open however the rail trail on the Highland side closes at dark so one would have to exit at that point on to Haviland Rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmac49 View Post
    walk their bikes across if you read the posted signs on the Mid-Hudson Bridge. If I want to walk I usually leave the bike home.
    I've ridden my bicycle across the Mid-Hudson Bridge lots of times over the years -- usually on the north sidewalk, but at least three times in the roadway very early in the morning when the sidewalk had not yet been opened. But you're probably correct about there still being a sign saying that bicycles should be walked.
    Perhaps for a lot of people it's safer to walk than ride on that sidewalk. Or maybe it's not safety but concern for conflicts between bicyclists and pedestrians on the narrow sidewalk. But there's so few pedestrians on the bridge that I've never found it a problem to just stop riding when I reached one.
    Anyway it is possible to ride without hindrance of signs across the river between Dutchess and Ulster counties on the Kingston-Rhinecliff bridge - (I think when Sharon and I rode across that one back in April the signs said it was walkers that were not allowed.)

    The reason for a lack of people riding between Poughkeepsie and Highland across the river is not just a couple of signs about walking bikes. (There are much cheaper ways to solve that problem, if lots of people think it's a problem.) I suspect currently few people ride across because they can't think of what on the other side would make them want to.

    I think the point of the railroad bridge thing is that the experience of riding on the bridge itself is the reason to make them want to try it. So it's mainly not a matter of providing a "bicycling connection" between the two counties or towns -- but rather a more dramatic exercise experience. And if the connections on both sides get made, a longer rail trail than you'd have if you were confined to only one side or the other.
    btw I've already gone the whole way on the Dutchess side rail trail from Hopewell Junction to Poughkeepsie. One day in winter when it was covered with snow, I skied it.
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    I cross the bridge almost every day either by POV or Cycle. It really depends as to what enforcement agency is around and who is on duty at the bridge authority. Having the connection completed all the way to the New Paltz town line to me is a nice draw. Rt 299 is very pleasant to ride on all the way to NP. Once in NP that opens things up to a plethora of choices. The GUNKS, Rosendale, Gardiner etc. On the eastern side once DC gets things going it should link into the old Put Division Rail Trail and down to Yonkers. Imagine the oportunity for riders to get on in Westchester , Putnam, and Dutchess to be able to travel in relative safety such a long distance. Now I'm not saying this is a century ride but one that a wider range of riders can enjoy. While many trails avoid the inner workings of local villages the Highland side is very close to shops and eateries and there are even more in NP. Your cross country outing must have been fun. A true meaning to MUP.
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    The Dutchess rail trail does seem to be dragging. They did manage to get those spiffy signs up right before election day in 2007, though, didn't they?! It'll be nice to have more of it completed - the family likes riding the rail trails with the Burley, etc. The hike out to Amenia and back is a little time consuming.

    You are allowed to ride over the Kingston Bridge (they made that change a few years back), but not the Mid-Hudson Bridge. The toll takers will come out and redirect you back to the sidewalk accessible from that small riverside park. You're supposed to walk across that sidewalk, but most people ride without being hassled.

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