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    New York to Philadelphia?

    Hey, guys.

    Is it possible to ride from New York to Philadelphia? I'm thinking of a super long bike tour, and my first one is this one

    Anyone ever do this?

    Thanks!
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    Its very possible, when I get layed off I will take a ride up to my grandmother in north jersey.

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    Can I use Google Maps to route it, and does it involve riding on (heavy traffic) highways?
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    Search the touring forum for routes to Philly. Dunno if you can avoid 1/9.
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    You can avoid routes 1/9 for a bit, i would def map it out though or you will get lost, do you have gps? I use telenav on my phone in ped mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
    Can I use Google Maps to route it, and does it involve riding on (heavy traffic) highways?
    MrCrassic,

    Sounds fun; I've always wanted to do NYC -> Philly, too. As for low-traffic routes, this may be a good place to start:

    http://www.greenway.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCrassic View Post
    Can I use Google Maps to route it, and does it involve riding on (heavy traffic) highways?
    Well that depends, having lived in nyc for the past 10 years and grown up in northern Jersey it's pretty hard to find anywhere to ride that doesn't involve heavy traffic in one way or another.

    Navigating northern jersey is tough. You have a few choices because you need to avoid places like Newark and south of it because it is inundated with interstates and industrial areas.

    The best way into the city on a bike is to cross the George Washington bridge. So you will probably want to head north in the more western part of the state then cut across east no further south than Hackensack.

    Hope this helps.. just avoid the red areas. Good luck
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    nycwtorres,

    I'm familiar with that route (and the problems with Hoboken/Union City/Jersey City, but I think going through 1/9 will be A LOT faster, even if I take the PATH over to Hoboken and work from there.
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    1/9 will get you killed for the most part there are no shoulders, and 50-60 mph traffic. Sounds like fun though

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    I've got an idea.

    Ride from Brooklyn to 34th Street, Penn Station (to get max miles)
    PATH to Journal Square, and XFER for PATH to Newark
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    There is one other option,, in fact I will be doing this in October to ride to Delaware.

    On week days ONLY there is a ferry that will take you down to Atlantic Highlands (near sandy hook) from Wall street. http://www.seastreak.com/SeaStreak from there you can make a run a bit further south then head west to Philly.
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    If you don't mind taking a train partway and don't feel like navigating your own route. Adventure Cycling has a route to NYC that goes to Norrisville, PA through North Jersey. I can't vouch for the route itself, I think it goes from Penn Station in Newark but it does sort of cut across North Jersey...

    the routes I could recommend would be a long detour around!

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    I rode NYC to PHL in 1982. I took the S.I. Ferry, rode across Staten Island, thumbed across the Outerboro Crossing, and just picked roads off of the map. I can vaguely pinpoint the route by the fact that I camped next to Great America and listened to the Beach Boys playing at the park on the first night. That part of NJ is very pleasant, if I recall this is sort of a "horse country" rural part of NJ. Rode through Camden, NJ and would suggest going some other route. Other than that it was quite enjoyable.

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    I want to take as little train as possible. I'm thinking of using the PATH to get to Newark, and cycling from there.
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    I wouldn't say it's more difficult to ride between Manhattan and Newark than several other sections along the way between NYC + Phila. I've skated on the roads between the GWB and Newark, multiple times by different routes. There are some detailed reports about it linked from
    this page of road-skating reports
    that page also has links to some skating between Philadelphia + Trenton + Newark.

    Maybe I'll skate from Newark to the GWB sometime in the next few weeks, if I'm free on a nice day for it.

    Just because I can skate it on some day doesn't mean anybody else should bike it (or skate it) on some other day.

    But just what is it, specifically, that's supposed to be so hard about riding between the George Washington Bridge and Newark?

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    P.S. I think NYC to Albany is a much more fun + pretty ride than NYC to Phila.

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    I plan on doing this as part of a longer ride. Check out Adventure Cyclings atlantic Coast Route. They tend to avoid heavy traffic roads when possible. I believe their route takes the path train from NY to Newark. I would advise doing that, cheap and they allow bikes. Their route starts at Newark Station and within an hour you'll be out of the worst of it. You could also take NJ transit to Princeton but that's cheating.
    There's a good blog on crazyguyonabike.com on all touring routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycwtorres View Post
    There is one other option,, in fact I will be doing this in October to ride to Delaware.

    On week days ONLY there is a ferry that will take you down to Atlantic Highlands (near sandy hook) from Wall street. http://www.seastreak.com/SeaStreak from there you can make a run a bit further south then head west to Philly.
    How bike-friendly is that ferry? I'm considering working it into a short tour next month. Somehow, ferries seem less like cheating than trains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Roberts View Post
    But just what is it, specifically, that's supposed to be so hard about riding between the George Washington Bridge and Newark?
    A huge part of the problem is the Hackansack Peninsula. Bayonne, Jersey City and Hoboken are all bikeable (mostly) but getting over the Hackensack river is tough. You have your choice of many unbikeable roads to use.

    Which is a shame. I was in that area recently and I was surprised by how nice the areas along the Hudson are. That would be an awesome ride if there was any way to access the peninsula from Elizabeth.
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    Some one did that ride on fixed gear last summer.
    Seemed like a great route tooo.
    I cant find the post though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilfein View Post
    getting over the Hackensack river is tough. You have your choice of many unbikeable roads to use.
    Sounds like I need to skate again across the Hackensack River on my way between Newark and the GWB in the next couple of weeks, and I'll post a link to my route. Who knows maybe things have changed in the past couple of years, and it doesn't work any more. Or maybe somebody else will beat me to it and post a report first.
    I'd guess the reason Adventure Cycling avoids this section is because they couldn't be bothered to figure out the details -- or because they figure lotsa tourers who are riding the whole Eastern coast or across the country, couldn't be bothered to carry detailed instructions. But that's no excuse for riders who live around here. And now that you can just carry the details on a memory card of GPS, no excuse for long-distance tourers either.
    South to North, here's some crossings of the Hackensack River:

    * Interstate 95: Not very bike-able (I guess?)

    * rt 3: I think maybe I have skated across it (on the sidewalk?), but my vague memory is that even after I got thru that it didn't connect with anything very comfortable to ride (or skate) on its west side.

    * rt 46: I've used the sidewalk on that more than once. (in addition to the Hackensack River you also have to cross Overpeck Creek). There's some trickiness to handling traffic and avoiding Interstate-95 in between Overpeck Creek and Hackensack River. Then a short ways on 46 to west of H river to a high-traffic roundabout before turning south on Bergen Turnpike. So this one's not for the average rider -- takes some real skill and sound strategy in handling traffic. (There are good books that explain how to do that sort of thing).

    * Interstate 80: Not very bike-able (I guess?)

    * West Fort Lee Rd / Court St: I believe I've skated across it on a sidewalk once -- but maybe things have changed since then. Does somebody know that it's "unbikeable"?

    * Salem St
    * East Anderson St: Does somebody know that both of those streets are "unbikeable"?

    Crossing the Hackensack River has some traffic problems that require skill and sound strategy. But so do some sections riding across the rest of New Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilfein View Post
    How bike-friendly is that ferry? I'm considering working it into a short tour next month. Somehow, ferries seem less like cheating than trains.

    Seastreak is practically an intergral part of Bike New York's Twin Lights ride. which happens this weekend. 5BBC also uses it for their club rides to the Jersey Highlands.

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    New York to Albany is way too long for me. I can consider a ride up to Ossining, though.
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    There is a road that goes across the Hackensack River and through the Meadowlands at grade level. It is Rt 7, which starts as Newark Ave in Jersey City, and then becomes Belleville Tpk. It will take you into Kearny, which is adjacent to Newark. I don't know how bikeable this is as I haven't been on it in years, but it does run at grade and I don't remember there being much traffic on it except at the traffic circle. And I can't tell you what the bridge crossing is like, as there is a bridge. From Kearny you're on your own.

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