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    You rode to nor wood this Thanksgiving morning? Let me know when you are headed back and maybe I can join you for a few miles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtalinm View Post
    You rode to nor wood this Thanksgiving morning? Let me know when you are headed back and maybe I can join you for a few miles...
    See my PM, if you catch it before 11AM.

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    Great T-Day ride, went up to Worcester Airports then hit more hills throughout Worcester. Before leaving I finished off with a Thigh Screaming sprint up George Street. Put in a total of 63 fun filled miles.

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    I managed only 11.1 miles today into Cambridge and back before having to drive into Boston. It was 29deg when I left the house, a lot like x-c skiing except that the tips of my fingers don't get so cold when I'm skiing.

    The new 6-speed arrangement worked well. Don't know if it was the chain or the freewheel teeth or both but shifting was quicker and quieter than I'm used to. Of course I have to learn the new lever positions. I'd expect running more than 6 speeds with friction shifters could be tricky. The gear choices seemed great.

    It was windy along the river. I hit 22.9 on a flat stretch with a tailwind, and got much colder heading home. It was nice to get out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    Over in the Roadie Forum they claim the wind always blows two directions at once.Happy Thanksgiving. Ride safe.
    Kinda like Grampa used to trudge to school and back through deep snow, uphill, both ways.

    Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtalinm View Post
    You rode to nor wood this Thanksgiving morning? Let me know when you are headed back and maybe I can join you for a few miles...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    See my PM, if you catch it before 11AM.
    I posted about my Thanksgiving Day commute at about 7:00 AM, and mtalinm noted it. I took a break from work at about 10:00 AM and saw his post, and by 11:05, we met in Islington for my commute home. Mtalinm and I ride a similar commute but in different direction and times, so we had some good suggestions and stories to exchange. I showed him one of my best, though circuitous, routes through Dedham, West Roxbury and Brookline, and we parted company at Jamaica Pond.

    He started commuting last winter, and is quite an enthusiast and posts to BF as well as his own blog about his experiences. He had some good equipment advice, and even has me interested in folding bikes. (N+1 will be carbon fiber, N+2 will be a folder; N+3 may be a FGSS). I’m also interested in a GPS, and he had advice about that. He PM’ed our route and his return, FYA:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    ...I showed him one of my best, though circuitous, routes through Dedham, West Roxbury and Brookline, and we parted company at Jamaica Pond. He PM’ed our route and his return, FYA:
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    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/57887703
    Looks like a nice run. I had no idea that parts of West Roxbury were below sea level. Do you notice if the air is thicker there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    Looks like a nice run. I had no idea that parts of West Roxbury were below sea level. Do you notice if the air is thicker there?
    I don't know if it was thicker, but sure was sweet on those pleasant residential, and especially car-light streets. I'm glad you mentioned elevation though, because I only looked at the route map. After your comments, I scrolled further down and saw all the data that the Garmin accumulated. All I'm looking for myself is a map that I don't have to stop for, pull out of my pocket and fold up again, only to have to repeat several times on a new route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
    All I'm looking for myself is a map that I don't have to stop for, pull out of my pocket and fold up again, only to have to repeat several times on a new route.
    I don't get through that part of the city very often and that's enough for me to know that it is lovely and I could get thoroughly lost! A small GPS unit would be nice if the maps were legible. For maps I have a transparent flap on the top of my handlebar bag (yes, I still use one). I print up maps from Delorme StreetAtlas and stick them in the flap. Doesn't do me as much good as it used. If I'm wearing my sunglasses instead of my progressives I can't read them while riding. But if I have to stop anyway to read a map at least this is lighter than a GPS unit would be. I just have to remember to print them up for the area I'm going through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    I don't get through that part of the city very often and that's enough for me to know that it is lovely and I could get thoroughly lost! A small GPS unit would be nice if the maps were legible. For maps I have a transparent flap on the top of my handlebar bag (yes, I still use one). I print up maps from Delorme StreetAtlas and stick them in the flap. Doesn't do me as much good as it used. If I'm wearing my sunglasses instead of my progressives I can't read them while riding. But if I have to stop anyway to read a map at least this is lighter than a GPS unit would be. I just have to remember to print them up for the area I'm going through.
    My favorite map for the metropolitan Boston area is the AAA map. It covers a lot of ground, yet is detailed enough to show a lot of nice quiet roads. It extends from downtown to about five miles or so beyond I-495 in all directions. I usually plan my long rides from Kenmore Square to meet a certain distance goal, so I drew radially oriented hashmarks centered on Kenmore extending out the various sectors of the map at 10 mile intervals. So I can then plan a tentative route to meet the specific goal, from about 40 to 100 miles, usually as a loop. It's a lot easier than trying to trace a route over the crazy Boston streets on Map My Ride. (Easiest is to ride half the distance goal and then retrace the route home. IMO, riding in the reverse direction is equivalent to a different route.)

    I touted this map previously on this thread, and since then I went to the AAA office and picked up a couple extras, free for AAA members, and I doubt they are sold. If any AAA non-members are seriously interested, send me a PM.
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    I wouldnt say the air is any thicker, but there was nasty flooding during that rainstorm earlier in the year. A friend of mine who lives near Centre street had FEMA visit her because therre were six feet of water in her basement!
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    This is an inspirational ride. I've ridden that area a bit, most recently as part of Mayor Menino's BikeBoston Hub on Wheels ride.
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    Is a daytime traverse through Dedham Center and east along Washington St "cool" or best left for Sunday mornings?

    Can one ride through Arnold Arboretum and Forest Hills without a special occasion like Hub on Wheels?

    Having travelled to places below sea level the prospect of a Boston area caught my interest. My estimates of horizontal distance are not precise and strongly influenced by mood, weather and tire pressure. Being a flood plain rider, elevation adds even more potential error so I took a quick glimpse at a topo map and the lowest spot along the mid third portion of the route I could find was +39 feet.

    I suspect the only things below sea level along this route are the accuracy of mapping and my oddball speculation of some barometric fluctuation. The Charles and Neponset rivers still flow towards sea level and the mid portion of the ride is in fairly hilly Mount Hope, Arnold Arboretum and Forest Hills.

    Back to flood plains and Stoneybrook I wonder about going towards UMASS and the Neponset. My wife and I enjoy the Neponset River Trail http://www.bostonharborwalk.com/plac...p?nid=2&sid=63

    Add the Hub ride influence and I wonder if one might connect parks and islands by bike and ferry? Could one circumnavigate Boston by land and sea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler View Post

    Can one ride through Arnold Arboretum and Forest Hills without a special occasion like Hub on Wheels?
    Pretty sure there are signs banning bikes from the Arboretum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler View Post
    This is an inspirational ride. I've ridden that area a bit, most recently as part of Mayor Menino's BikeBoston Hub on Wheels ride.
    Attachment 180432
    Is a daytime traverse through Dedham Center and east along Washington St "cool" or best left for Sunday mornings?
    absolutely! I commute along this route almost every day: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/57816897

    Can one ride through Arnold Arboretum and Forest Hills without a special occasion like Hub on Wheels?
    Absolutely!! I have not seen any signs banning bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler View Post
    ...Attachment 180432

    ... the lowest spot along the mid third portion of the route I could find was +39 feet.

    I suspect the only things below sea level along this route are the accuracy of mapping
    Could one circumnavigate Boston by land and sea?
    Hmm, this attachment comes through as a BF message "Invalid Attachment".

    Re the elevation, I was only joking, sort of. I wouldn't think that area is below sea level, but I'd expect a GPS track to report elevation better than +/- 40ft. Most likely, that mapping profile showed elevation relative to the start though it wasn't labeled as such and the track didn't start and end at 0ft. Ho hum, isn't technology wonderful?

    Yes, one can circumnavigate Boston by land and by sea but only with one by the former and two by the latter. There is a precedent for it.
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    land and sea

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
    Hmm, this attachment comes through as a BF message "Invalid Attachment".

    Sorry, nothing more than a portion of the Hub on Wheels route near the Arnold and Forest Hills.

    southern portion of 2010BikeBoston.jpgYes, one can circumnavigate Boston by land and by sea but only with one by the former and two by the latter. There is a precedent for it.
    Your land and sea reference is brilliant!
    Dawes and Revere routes are other rides to contemplate.

    I was thinking the first water passage on the harbor side after riding past the aforementioned parks then catch the ferry at UMass, dissembark at Hingham and bike to Hull? Ferry again to Long Wharf downtown? Maybe the ferrys need to be on summer schedule.

    The lantern perspective does put light on the idea of biking to Old North Church and cross the Charles at the Charlestown Bridge where Revere rowed across. From there bike over through Cambridge and ride across the Anderson Memorial Bridge (aka the Great Bridge) that Dawes used in the opposite direction.

    From there I'd be tempted to head west towards home.
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    Was able to get out today for a 49 mile ride. I went down to Fitchburg to do some hill work, even did a cobblestone hill. Then I headed home via rte. 12, cold but fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZIPP2001 View Post
    I went down to Fitchburg to do some hill work, even did a cobblestone hill.
    Oh come on Zipp, there are no hills in Fitchburg.

    I didn't ride but I stopped by the bike shop in Milford today during a free moment and found a beautiful pair of Suntour Superbe hubs, almost matching. New wheels are somewhere in the near future, I foresee.
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    dear Charlestown crossing guards: don't wave people across the street as you step off the curb into the crosswalk--especially when there is a big van parked, creating a blind-spot for cyclists who are in the bike lane--cyclists who don't see you b/c you are ON THE CURB ACROSS THE STREET. Instead, why don't you try walking into the middle of the road, assessing first that it is safe and clear of ALL traffic before ushering non-plussed pedestrians into harms way. I came very, very close to taking out a woman at 25MPH this morning. Scared the crap out of me (probably her too).

    Oh and it was dry and a tad chilly 30F (-1C) until I warmed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmolway View Post
    ....safe and clear....
    Cmolway,
    I too have had a few close calls where I expect all sorts of traffic to follow norms.
    On a related topic, I'm interested to learn of a movement that is improving traffic safety doing the opposite of what I'd expect; removing traditional traffic directions. Rather than adding, or in your case improving, signs and directions, they are removing them.

    When there are so many signs (clutter) NYC signs.jpg I tend to not think and follow (or not) instructions. In your case a pedestrian didn't look but just went as directed. Taken to the extreme around Logan Airport pedestrians are in tubes isolated from cars in separate tubes (tunnels). I couldn't figure out how to bike to and from Logan and decided I needed a separate bicycle tube.

    The new idea is to reduce signage and instruction and encourage all traffic to think and interact more. no signs.jpg Side benefits are the place looks better and we interact and socialize a bit more. It doesn't apply to the Mass Pike (or the Ted Williams tunnel) but does seem to work where there are a fair amount of pedestrians, bikes, cars and trucks. I'm more comfortable riding in Dorchester with small streets, jaywalking pedestrians and delivery trucks jostling around than at City Hall and Boston Common where signs and fencing herd pedestrians to specific crossings and cars and trucks drag race between traffic lights.

    Was our first traffic light was the Old North Church?
    Did Stanley Steamers force us to paint dashed and solid stripes on the roads and do we still need them?
    This popular youtube is a fun look at old San Francisco and suggests we might manage without well meaning crossing guards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZIPP2001 View Post
    Before leaving I finished off with a Thigh Screaming sprint up George Street.
    Wow, nice.
    I like to finish up a good ride with Prospect St.
    George St. has always intimidated me since I was a kid, so honestly I've never even tried it! hahaha
    Some day I'm going to get around to trying Gage St.,
    but probably not until I've lived what I'd consider a full and productive life and I'm ready to go!

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    Zipp, I can't send PM's yet, but a group ride sounds good to me.
    My weekly mileage has been dropping a good bit along with the temperatures.
    I'm up for anything that'll keep my winter training up for a good long haul come spring.

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    I'm still interested in a Worcester ride but weekends are difficult. Yesterday opened up unexpectantly so I rode another Carlisle Holliston Cow Tunnel Century. I made the same wrong turn in Carlisle missing West St, back tracked then turned before Strawberry Hill. It is all a nice area much like Strawberry Hill in Dover. That is another potential connecting ride, connecting Strawbeery Hills.

    For now I'lll set my sites on Zipp's George St turf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler View Post
    That is another potential connecting ride, connecting Strawbeery Hills.
    I like that, especially the beery parts. But I'll skip the weissbeers 'cuz they taste too much like straw.
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    bonked for the first time after six hours in 30-degree temps, mostly climbing. yuck http://ridewithgps.com/trips/143272
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