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    Bad Accident in Central Park (behind the Met) yesterday afternoon

    Wondering if anyone knew the guy that went down yesterday afternoon in Central Park. It was behind the Met and looked like he hit his head (no helmet) on the curb. He was bleeding pretty badly from the ear and barely conscious when the ambulance got there. They took him to NY Presbyterian.

    Hoping he is ok. Anybody know him?

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    While I feel bad for the guy, stuff happens all the time in NYC. E.g.:

    http://gothamist.com/map/

    You sufficiently interested to track down all the people who got hurt yesterday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe View Post
    While I feel bad for the guy, stuff happens all the time in NYC. E.g.:

    http://gothamist.com/map/

    You sufficiently interested to track down all the people who got hurt yesterday?
    No, I'm actually not interested in tracking down all of the people who were injured in NYC yesterday.

    I am interested in this individual since my wife and I rode up on the accident seconds after it happened and worked with about 20 other cyclists (quite possibly members on this forum) to help the guy until paramedics arrived. If this was a broken arm, I could care less. When another rider is laying on the ground, bleeding from the head, and barely conscious, it has an effect on you.

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    People in The five boroughs never wear helmets, they're too cool for them, that's what happens.
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    They don't look too cool bleeding from thier heads.
    I've seen enough cracked helmets after crashes to even consider riding without one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankieV View Post
    They don't look too cool bleeding from thier heads.
    I've seen enough cracked helmets after crashes to even consider riding without one.
    Generally a cracked helmet is what your going to see on any severe crash... and its a indication that the helmet actually worked
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    That section of East Drive behind the Met is particularly bad. A 73 year old woman was recently hit by a cyclist and suffered several broken vertebrae and some broken ribs.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...AgVkAqB6eMaDsO

    I also had an incident in that section, hit by a jogger who abruptly decided to turn just as I was passing and threw me into traffic. There are so many incidents in Central Park that they always have a few ambulances stationed there on weekends.

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    too many riders way too fast, too many pedestrians way too ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacy View Post
    That section of East Drive behind the Met is particularly bad. A 73 year old woman was recently hit by a cyclist and suffered several broken vertebrae and some broken ribs.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...AgVkAqB6eMaDsO

    I also had an incident in that section, hit by a jogger who abruptly decided to turn just as I was passing and threw me into traffic. There are so many incidents in Central Park that they always have a few ambulances stationed there on weekends.
    That's horrible. I wonder if they ever found the d***head who hit her. I saw lame fu***ards like that during Summer Streets last Saturday: full racing gear, zooming by at 20+mph among kids and older people. Ignorant ********.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdek View Post
    Some people in The five boroughs never wear helmets, they're too cool for them, that's what happens.
    fixed for accuracy.


    Quote Originally Posted by soundtweakers View Post
    too many riders way too fast, too many pedestrians way too ignorant.

    Central Park isn't a good place to ride fast once the masses arrive in the late morning and through the rest of the day. If you want to do laps around CP during most of the day then you have to accept the fact certain sections will have some pedestrians jaywalking, not to mention reckless riders cutting through other riders. When I used to train in CP I learned quickly it's only good to do so very early in the morning or in the late evening.


    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
    That's horrible. I wonder if they ever found the d***head who hit her. I saw lame fu***ards like that during Summer Streets last Saturday: full racing gear, zooming by at 20+mph among kids and older people. Ignorant ********.
    This is another mystery to me because I can't imagine wanting to ride fast in a sea of slower cyclists knowing full well that it will be unsafe for all involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadiejorge View Post
    Central Park isn't a good place to ride fast once the masses arrive in the late morning and through the rest of the day. If you want to do laps around CP during most of the day then you have to accept the fact certain sections will have some pedestrians jaywalking, not to mention reckless riders cutting through other riders. When I used to train in CP I learned quickly it's only good to do so very early in the morning or in the late evening.
    actually, that's the only time during which you can safely do fast laps. there are too many ignorant idiots out there in the evenings. plus, you might get a sighting of Big George if you ride early enough. then again, i'm idiotic enough to do fast laps in the evenings, too...
    Quote Originally Posted by roadiejorge View Post
    This is another mystery to me because I can't imagine wanting to ride fast in a sea of slower cyclists knowing full well that it will be unsafe for all involved.
    it happens when you have the greatest conglomeration of self-centered idiots in the whole world

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynRoadie View Post
    Generally a cracked helmet is what your going to see on any severe crash... and its a indication that the helmet actually worked
    That was my point of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcjimbosandwich View Post
    actually, that's the only time during which you can safely do fast laps.
    Midnightish on weekdays isn't bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadiejorge View Post
    This is another mystery to me because I can't imagine wanting to ride fast in a sea of slower cyclists knowing full well that it will be unsafe for all involved.
    It's not that mysterious.

    • There aren't many long traffic-free loops in the general area.
    • Prospect Park is just as crowded.
    • If you're doing a short training loop, it's the most efficient place to do it.
    • IIRC a couple of racing teams train (and race) in the park.
    • Many Manhattan cyclists are highly reluctant to head over to, say, Palisades Park on a regular basis.
    • Some (if not most) cyclists feel, when they are on the bike at least, that the park is really "theirs" and that pedestrians, children, skaters, joggers and dogs (especially dogs, which are allowed to go off-leash in parts of the park) are merely obstacles that have no real business in the park.
    • Last but not least, I'd guess that the fast cyclists figure they can handle it, that they're skilled enough to dodge the "obstacles," and don't view it as particularly unsafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe View Post
    It's not that mysterious.

    • There aren't many long traffic-free loops in the general area.
    • Prospect Park is just as crowded.
    • If you're doing a short training loop, it's the most efficient place to do it.
    • IIRC a couple of racing teams train (and race) in the park.
    • Many Manhattan cyclists are highly reluctant to head over to, say, Palisades Park on a regular basis.
    • Some (if not most) cyclists feel, when they are on the bike at least, that the park is really "theirs" and that pedestrians, children, skaters, joggers and dogs (especially dogs, which are allowed to go off-leash in parts of the park) are merely obstacles that have no real business in the park.
    • Last but not least, I'd guess that the fast cyclists figure they can handle it, that they're skilled enough to dodge the "obstacles," and don't view it as particularly unsafe.

    I was referring to the Summer Streets program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteon View Post
    Midnightish on weekdays isn't bad.
    I've wondered about this. How late can/do people ride in Central Park? If I went out at 9-10pm, are there generally other people riding?

    I would love to get a set a lights and ride just after the masses leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tumbler View Post
    I've wondered about this. How late can/do people ride in Central Park? If I went out at 9-10pm, are there generally other people riding?
    Not too many. On the Central Park Moonlight Ride, we see a few other riders, but it's basically wide open.

    I've also been taking solo night rides around the city. As far as I know, there's no restriction on when you can ride in Central Park. I've been through it at just about every hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noteon View Post
    Not too many. On the Central Park Moonlight Ride, we see a few other riders, but it's basically wide open.

    I've also been taking solo night rides around the city. As far as I know, there's no restriction on when you can ride in Central Park. I've been through it at just about every hour.
    The park officially closes at 1am.

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    Oh.

    I guess I should stop going at 2 or 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noteon View Post
    Oh.

    I guess I should stop going at 2 or 3.
    I've ridden through at 4am, and passed police cars on the drive and didn't get stopped. But if I did I had an excuse as I was working in the park at the time.

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    Too bad to see someone was down for the count in the park. It's never a pleasant sight. But if it was one of those faux Lance Armstrong d-bags, with fake sponsors on his spandex, zooming around the park with little regard for the tens of thousands of people walking, coasting and otherwise enjoying themselves, I have very little sympathy. Those clowns... and there are many... are complete ********. Don't burn off all your stress after a bad day on the market by setting a land speed record through pedestrians. Perhaps he deserved it.

    Otherwise, I wish this guy a speedy recovery. Good day! Happy riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prizm View Post
    Too bad to see someone was down for the count in the park. It's never a pleasant sight. But if it was one of those faux Lance Armstrong d-bags, with fake sponsors on his spandex, zooming around the park with little regard for the tens of thousands of people walking, coasting and otherwise enjoying themselves, I have very little sympathy. Those clowns... and there are many... are complete ********. Don't burn off all your stress after a bad day on the market by setting a land speed record through pedestrians. Perhaps he deserved it.

    Otherwise, I wish this guy a speedy recovery. Good day! Happy riding.
    the reality is that there is a bike lane and too many people walk in it. There are over 60 miles of walking paths in the park but only 6 miles aorund the park that we can ride on. It's not too much to ask pedestrians to stay in the lane that they have created for themselves. they just expect us to swerve out of the way not realizing that yes, Car traffic is allowed in the majority of the park a good portion of the day so we can't just easily swerve around them. I personally love the people that run the wrong way and in the bike lane, I'm just gonna start spitting on them, that should teach them a lesson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino911 View Post
    the reality is that there is a bike lane and too many people walk in it. There are over 60 miles of walking paths in the park but only 6 miles aorund the park that we can ride on. It's not too much to ask pedestrians to stay in the lane that they have created for themselves. they just expect us to swerve out of the way not realizing that yes, Car traffic is allowed in the majority of the park a good portion of the day so we can't just easily swerve around them. I personally love the people that run the wrong way and in the bike lane, I'm just gonna start spitting on them, that should teach them a lesson!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cappuccino911 View Post
    I personally love the people that run the wrong way and in the bike lane, I'm just gonna start spitting on them, that should teach them a lesson!
    Just imagine if drivers had the same attitude. There's actually a sprinkling of signs along the drive indicating runners should run against traffic in the left lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacy View Post
    That section of East Drive behind the Met is particularly bad. A 73 year old woman was recently hit by a cyclist and suffered several broken vertebrae and some broken ribs.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...AgVkAqB6eMaDsO


    I also had an incident in that section, hit by a jogger who abruptly decided to turn just as I was passing and threw me into traffic. There are so many incidents in Central Park that they always have a few ambulances stationed there on weekends.
    Last year here in Philly a middle-aged man was hit by a cyclist while walking home from his job a paralegal. He was knocked to the ground, hit his head, and later died from his injuries. The cyclist got up, straightened his bars, and rode off. He has not been identified or caught despite the victim's employer offering a substantial reward.

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