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    Quote Originally Posted by elsquid View Post
    I just did this today, and it was great. Took the north (westbound) sidewalks all the way across both rivers in both directions. There were some challenges, but nothing my hardtail MTB with hybrid tires couldn't handle; I never even put a foot down.

    The easterly bridge sidewalk had some overgrown bushes impinging on it, but I just pushed through it. There were no hard branches or thorns or stickers, just leaves that gave when I pushed through. Coming up the surface sidewalk approaching the westerly bridge, I started to run into sand, large gravel, and some trash. This got worse after I got inside the rather narrow space between the railings on the bridge proper, and more vegetation impinged. For about 50 feet I would say that very skinny slick tires would have some issue; they still might make it through but one might have to walk a road bike for a minute or so. Then it cleared right up, and the majority of the sidewalk on the westerly bridge proper was nice and clear. The former stairway is still a ruin, so I exited by just riding down the ramp with traffic. It was fine and shot me right onto Doremus.

    Took the industrial roads into the Ironbound: Doremus, Roanoake, Foundry, P, Roanoake, Hawkins(?) Rome. Watched soccer and drank sangria and ate great food outside at Catas on Market Street. Rode home the same way, portaged up the ruined stairway (actually rolled the bike up the flat dirt next to it). Returned to JC watching the sunset color 1 WTC orange and then red. Great day!
    I'm glad you enjoyed it. It really is an interesting ride and much easier than it looks. Heck, I was able to climb those bridges with a 3 speed cruiser! At the end of the day, it's access we didn't have in decades. I can't wait until the Bayoone bridge is completed including the new Goethals bridge.

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    I did this for the first time this year a few days ago. The overgrowth on the bridge between Jersey City and Kearny was much greater than last year. But, as was already mentioned, there were no thorns; so I just rode through it.

    It's also been established that the earthen stairs at the end of the Kearny-to-Newark bridge are gone. I just rode around the with the cars going down, as I had done before. Coming back, I walked up the hill where the stairs used to be. So the lack of stairs didn't prove to be a problem.

    It's curious that Google Maps show a bike route going north of that bridge, up to Raymond Blvd. I briefly considered trying it that way, but then thought better of it; I finally went down Doremus Ave. and then via Roanoke Ave., Ave. P, and Foundary St. to get up to Raymond Blvd.

    I rode around Newark for a while, and even found a Ferdinand St. I also found a good bike lane on Jones St./Norfolk Ave. (that's one street). But the best bike town is Hoboken, with bike lanes on practically every street. I hope to get back there soon. It was a great day, one during which I totalled 83 miles.

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    What a mess! (By the sound of it, anyway.)
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    Well, clearly it could be a lot better. But I am happy that such a connection exists at all.

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    Here's the Google Maps thing that I mentioned, which shows a bikeable route north from the bridge landing in Newark.

    That's completely illusory, right? I originally thought that I'd check it out; but I ultimately decided against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdinand NYC View Post
    Here's the Google Maps thing that I mentioned, which shows a bikeable route north from the bridge landing in Newark.

    That's completely illusory, right? I originally thought that I'd check it out; but I ultimately decided against it.
    HOLY COW! I think you discovered a new route to Newark Ferdinand! LOL! I'm going to try that this weekend or next week for sure!! I have to admit, it looks real ugly for it goes under the Pulaski Skyway but there appears to be a concerted effort to build a walkway! Incredible how I never saw that before. I hope it's not covered with broken bottles and grass.

    I sure would not attempt to do that route at night but it is access. I'll take pictures for sure!

    I was having dinner at the IHOP on route 440 the other day and it was starting to get dark. When I noticed a woman walking on the highway getting ready to enter the west bound route going to Newark. I was suprised there were people brave enough to walk across those two bridges during the day but imagine being a women and doing it at night! No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdinand NYC View Post
    I did this for the first time this year a few days ago. The overgrowth on the bridge between Jersey City and Kearny was much greater than last year. But, as was already mentioned, there were no thorns; so I just rode through it.

    It's also been established that the earthen stairs at the end of the Kearny-to-Newark bridge are gone. I just rode around the with the cars going down, as I had done before. Coming back, I walked up the hill where the stairs used to be. So the lack of stairs didn't prove to be a problem.
    I discovered the best way to do route.

    Once you leave Lincoln Park and start your way to Newark, the road is paved and crossing the first bridge is easy. The problem is after you cross the second bridge with the steps been destroyed. Here's what to do! Get to the other side then cross the bridge!

    You need get to the other side using Hackensack Avenue or Central Avenue. Once on the other side, cross the second bridge into Newark and it's a smooth path all the way down.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdinand NYC View Post
    It's curious that Google Maps show a bike route going north of that bridge, up to Raymond Blvd. I briefly considered trying it that way, but then thought better of it; I finally went down Doremus Ave. and then via Roanoke Ave., Ave. P, and Foundary St. to get up to Raymond Blvd.
    Google Maps is dead right!! LOL

    There is a bike route that goes under the over pass and actually under the Skyway! It wasn't so bad during the day and not too much overgrowth and glass. I was impressed that Newark actually made a walkway that reaches Raymond Blvd!

    You don't have to ride in traffic either because they built a traffic light just for those wanting to cross Raymond Blvd to reach the walkway. How considerate for Newark to build a traffic light just for us! LOL! I suspect a number of people might have been killed crossing that street and such an accident would stop traffic both ways on RB.

    I took pictures and will post shortly. Even thougth it was well lit during the day, I would not try this at night. You don't have to ride on Raymond Blvd because the cars are just too fast. However, the sidewalk is wide with little street activity. While on RB, I decided to go through the neighborhood and discovered it was a huge mistake. I encountered a street walker in broad daylight and the drug dealers acted like they hadn't see a cyclist in 20 years! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve;16938,400
    Google Maps is dead right!! LOL

    There is a bike route that goes under the over pass and actually under the Skyway! It wasn't so bad during the day and not too much overgrowth and glass. I was impressed that Newark actually made a walkway that reaches Raymond Blvd!

    You don't have to ride in traffic either because they built a traffic light just for those wanting to cross Raymond Blvd to reach the walkway. How considerate for Newark to build a traffic light just for us! LOL!* I suspect a number of people might have been killed crossing that street and such an accident would stop traffic both ways on RB.

    I took pictures and will post shortly. Even thougth it was well lit during the day, I would not try this at night. You don't have to ride on Raymond Blvd because the cars are just too fast. However, the sidewalk is wide with little street activity. While on RB, I decided to go through the neighborhood and discovered it was a huge mistake. I encountered a street walker in broad daylight and the drug dealers acted like they hadn't see a cyclist in 20 years! LOL!
    Great! I will look forward to those pictures! And I would like to know exactly where you joined up with Raymond Blvd.

    As it happens, I was around there yesterday, as I did a 105-mile round-trip to Morris County. (The hills on Eagle Rock Ave. west from West Orange are terrible, by the way!) I took Doremus south to Roanoke, as previously described.

    Here's a nutty question: were you going towards Newark at some time between 5:30 and 6:00 in the late afternoon? I was heading out of Newark back towards Kearny at that point; and I passed someone going the other way on the bridge. That couldn't have been you, could it?

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    I'm back with the pictures.

    First, I want to say that this is the route to take if you're going to Harrison and in a hurry! I would not attempt to do this at night and be very careful when going under the bridge.

    As you exit the bridge or go down the dirt steps, instead of going to Doremus, you'll go in the direction of the ramp. Don't go up the ramp because that's crazy! Instead, look to the right and you'll see the bike path. Here's the entrance below.

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    The second picture shows the condition of the path and there is some overgrowth at first. However, I just pushed it aside and you can see the bike path is in very good condition!

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    The path makes a long left turn as seen in this picture. There's no hills some glass but overall very easy.

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    The bike path then turns right and look for the cross walk that goes under the bridges. You can't miss them and you'll have to cross both. I don't know how busy it will be during rush hour but there was no traffic on a weekend.

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    Now comes the dangerous part. After you cross both crosswalks, you'll ride under this overpass. You'll almost home now!!
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    After you go under the overpass and highway, you'll continue going right it should lead to two more crosswalks. The good news is that you have a street light to help you cross. Once on the sidewalk, go right and and you're on Raymond Blvd! It's that easy and you don't have to ride any streets, ramps or highways.

    If you want, you can go straight and that's Raymond Blvd. Enjoy exploring!

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    Thank you for the detailed information and for the pictures! Maybe I'll try it when I next get out there.

    So, how about that other question: was that you on the Kearny-to-Newark bridge on the evening of Sunday the 13th at about 6pm? I was leaving Newark on the bridge at about that time; and I passed someone going the other way. It would be wild if we had actually passed by each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdinand NYC View Post
    Thank you for the detailed information and for the pictures! Maybe I'll try it when I next get out there.

    So, how about that other question: was that you on the Kearny-to-Newark bridge on the evening of Sunday the 13th at about 6pm? I was leaving Newark on the bridge at about that time; and I passed someone going the other way. It would be wild if we had actually passed by each other.
    Sorry Ferdinand. I would not have been on the bridge that late in the day. Especially since I was going to explore a new route going under the overpases heading to Newark. I'll be honest in saying that the area around there would worry me at night.

    As I said before, there was a woman who was walking across those bridges a dusk but she is braver than me! It was fun exploring that region on bicycle and I think it can be made safer if the stairs were only repaired.

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    Right, but 6pm at this time of year is neither night nor dusk. The afternoon sun still shines brightly at that hour in mid-July.

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    Every now and then I have to go through that area by car, and I've got to ask the question: Why would anybody want to ride a bike there? That has to be one of the worst locations in the country to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacster View Post
    Every now and then I have to go through that area by car, and I've got to ask the question: Why would anybody want to ride a bike there? That has to be one of the worst locations in the country to ride.
    The answer is in the thread's title: it's the only way to get to Newark by bike from New York -- or, for that matter, from Jersey City or Hoboken.

    That part of Newark is certainly not the most beautiful; but you have to go through that part in order to get to the enjoyable parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zacster View Post
    Every now and then I have to go through that area by car, and I've got to ask the question: Why would anybody want to ride a bike there? That has to be one of the worst locations in the country to ride.
    I survived! LOL!

    If you're ever going to be seriously hurt or killed on a bicycle, it will more than likely be someone on four wheels.

    You won't see me going through there at night for sure, but it was breath taking going under the Skyway during the day! I enjoy the thrill of riding in slums of Jersey City, Newark, Camden, East Orange, West Orange, Atlantic City, East New York, Harlem etc. Quite frankly, I got tired of doing loops in Central Park and wanted to know how the cities looked. Glad I did!

    I'm proud of this thread more than any other I created. My discovery to arrive at Newark by bicycle was a revelation for sure. I don't know of anyone who thinks one could walk or bicycle to Newark but now we know different. My next journey will be exploring Route 7! I don't know if I'll make it but there's a beautiful bridge that really needs to be explored and there are crosswalks to assist!! Can't wait and will post on a new thread.
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    Just wanted to say I am grateful for this thread and all your efforts to push cycling forward. One reason I did this route recently is that I live in Jersey City and I am a board member of Bike JC, the bike advocacy group for Jersey City, and I hope to lead some of our members on this ride soon. I also happen to work in Newark lately, so I might even commute this way occasionally. And now people on our local forums are talking about this route. It builds. Slowly, but it builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elsquid View Post
    Just wanted to say I am grateful for this thread and all your efforts to push cycling forward. One reason I did this route recently is that I live in Jersey City and I am a board member of Bike JC, the bike advocacy group for Jersey City, and I hope to lead some of our members on this ride soon. I also happen to work in Newark lately, so I might even commute this way occasionally. And now people on our local forums are talking about this route. It builds. Slowly, but it builds.
    I'm glad for you. I moved from Maplewood, NJ to NYC a year ago, and by comparison, cycling here is like heaven. I occasionally go to NJ, and being able to cycle conveniently over the Passaic and Hackensack Rivers will be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elsquid View Post
    Just wanted to say I am grateful for this thread and all your efforts to push cycling forward. One reason I did this route recently is that I live in Jersey City and I am a board member of Bike JC, the bike advocacy group for Jersey City, and I hope to lead some of our members on this ride soon. I also happen to work in Newark lately, so I might even commute this way occasionally. And now people on our local forums are talking about this route. It builds. Slowly, but it builds.
    Thanks.

    I lived in Jersey City most of my life before moving to Bayonne. I had no idea there was a bicycle advocacy in Jersey City! Interesting.

    I noticed Jeresy City built many new bike lanes going cross town. Now all we need is a bike lane that goes north to south from Jersey City to Bayonne! Quite frankly, I'm surprised they even spent money on bike lanes but I somehow think your organization had something to do with it!

    Hoboken started years ago and now there are a number of bike lanes that go all over. They are actually ahead of Jersey City and Bayonne hasn't even started!!

    I promise to continue to update the status of this route each year through this thread. I suspect tens of thousands of dollars were spent by Jersey City in creating this route. Now we have to pressure Newark to do their part and fix the stairs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ____ View Post
    An alternative to the Lincoln Highway (Communipaw Avenue) bridge between Jersey City and Kearny is the Route 7 bridge that lines up on Newark Avenue in Jersey City. There is a sidewalk on the north side that dead ends onto a stairway down to Fish House Road (instead of following the road around the circle at the west end of the bridge). The route then is Fish House to Pennsylvania to Jacobus and the under the highway to the south sidewalk of the Lincoln Highway bridge between Kearny and Newark.

    From Doremus Avenue south successive rights on Roanoke and Foundry then a left on Roanoke and you're in the Ironbound. Hawkins-Rome-St Charles-Kossuth-Main-George-Magazine-Ferry for example will line you up toward Penn Station, Newark. It's a little faster than going as far as Wilson on Doremus.
    I read the thread again and Bacciagalupe is dead right! I'm going to try this next week!

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    The overgrowth on the westbound side of the bridge on route 1/9 truck is so bad, it's hard to even walk the bike.

    One of these days I want to go there with a snow shovel and garden shears and cut the overgrowing trees and shovel the sand. Make that sidewalk usable again. This is stuff that should have been done by the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nd2010 View Post
    The overgrowth on the westbound side of the bridge on route 1/9 truck is so bad, it's hard to even walk the bike.

    One of these days I want to go there with a snow shovel and garden shears and cut the overgrowing trees and shovel the sand. Make that sidewalk usable again. This is stuff that should have been done by the city.
    +1

    I'm thinking of the same thing. I stopped using the west bound route for this reason. During the winter, I intend to bring a gallon of "Roundup" weed killer. If the city isn't going to maintain the route, we'll have no choice but to do it ourselves.

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