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    Stony Brook to Brooklyn? Any good routes

    I'm dropping my son off at SUNY SB and thought maybe I'd ride back to Brooklyn. Once I'm in the city I'm OK, but is there a good route through Suffolk and Nassau? I don't usually ride on Long Island, I think I've stated my opinion on that before. I tried Google maps, but there were just too many turns and I'd probably get lost. Is there a direct way that won't put me in the middle of 6 lanes of traffic?

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    When I ride from Syosset to Pt. Jefferson (a couple of hamlets past Stony Brook), I use the following route:


    • Woodbury Road to Pulaski Rd. 13 miles to Rt. 25A in Kings Park.
    • Make right, 2 miles to fork, straight onto ROSE STREET
    • To LANDING AVENUE. Make RIGHT
    • 2 miles to EDGEWOOD RD in Smithtown. Make LEFT
    • 2 miles to 25A
    • 4 miles to fork in Stony Brook. Bear left
    • mile to fork. Bear RIGHT and stay on 25A
    • 5.75 miles, pass Setauket, to Pt. Jefferson


    This, in reverse, might work for you. However, note that a small bridge on Landing Avenue is under construction right now, so you'd need to detour onto 25A for a piece of this.

    In general, if you do not mind hills, 25A is likely your best bet, as it's hard to get lost when you're on it. Traffic can be light to moderate, depending on where you are, but in Suffolk County, it's nothing like it is in Queens. Check it out on Google Satellite Street Views.

    If you need more specific info, get back to me.
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    At Syosset, I would then use the almost-finished Bethpage Bikeway extension to get you to the south shore, perhaps Sunrise Highway, which will take you into Howard Beach, where the Belt Parkway Bike Path will carry you into the south part of Brooklyn.

    Note: Sunrise Highway is quite busy, but bikeable. In any event, you can always Google an alternate route that runs parallel through residential neighborhoods. Even Merrick Road, which is the terminus of the Bethpage Bikeway, is less busy, but will only take you as far as Rockville Centre.
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    I can't reply in full till this evening, but its essentially my bike commute and is a good ride.

    Later,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Tom View Post
    At Syosset, I would then use the almost-finished Bethpage Bikeway extension to get you to the south shore, perhaps Sunrise Highway, which will take you into Howard Beach, where the Belt Parkway Bike Path will carry you into the south part of Brooklyn.

    Note: Sunrise Highway is quite busy, but bikeable. In any event, you can always Google an alternate route that runs parallel through residential neighborhoods. Even Merrick Road, which is the terminus of the Bethpage Bikeway, is less busy, but will only take you as far as Rockville Centre.
    I'm sorry, but Sunrise Highway is not bikeable.. It's very busy, with annoyed drivers during rush hour and parkway speeds during off hours... I live near by, and Sunrise Hway is my main throughway to the world - the only time I've seen cyclists on it is crossing and getting away from it as fast as possible.

    I don't know a route to Brooklyn from LI, but Sunrise Highway is NOT it... Merrick Rd is better, though you'll have to keep your reflexes in top shape - most people arrive on Merrick Rd having just gotten off Sunrise Hwy, and haven't adjusted to their "small road" mentality yet...

    PS - Merrick Rd goes well into Queens, though I don't know what it looks like past Valley Stream...
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    Direct ?. Not really unless you just take the LIE service road west to Queens, then head south.

    Or print a cue sheet from the RWGPS limk below. It's a good route, scenic thru the Rockaway's

    Not knowing the Stony Brook are well. I'l leave it to others to recommend a route south towards the LIE service road. The RideWithGPS route attached starts at Old Nicolls Rd. You can pick up the LIE anywhere east as far as exit 63, or west wherever. There's a detour around the LIE/Sagtikos Parkway interchange as you cannot use the LIE here. This detour is the typical roadie route using Wicks Rd, then Suffolk Community College to Crooked Hill then back to the svc. road.

    Then continue west on the LIE to Round Swamp Rd. south, then a jog over on Haypath Rd. to pick up the new Bethpage Bike Path extension (as per PapaToms suggestion) to BP Park, then the original BP Path south to Clark St. This is an important turnoff of the bike path, as further south you hit Sunrise Hwy., then Merrick Rd. and those are no good to you. The route west on Clark and the rest is the route used by Ride to Montauk and the Montauk Century to Lynbrook only the other way, then in Lynbrook you head south and thru the 5 towns.

    You have an option at Broadway in Woodmere to either take Broadway south, on about a mile of congested shopping area, or use the Meadowview/East Broadway/Brower detour that avoids the shopping mess.

    Then down to the Rockaway's and to the Marine Parkway Bridge, with a little detour thru Jacob Riis on the cement boardwalk then onto the bridge. Then up Flatbush.

    Then a choice of either up Flatbush, which is doable, but not great, or head west on the Belt Path, with the sand detour at Plumb Beach, to Knapp Street. Then maybe up the bike lane on Bedford Ave. Your call.

    http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3186239
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    Ay, whatta yooz guyz got against Sunrise frickin' Highway?????
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    Sunrise would be my last choice.

    I checked the maps again, and from Syosset there seems to be some streets that will take me to Mineola, Prospect Union, Maple, Westbury. I have no idea if they are really any good. But from there nothing looked promising.

    In any case, I don't think I'm riding tomorrow. I'd rather just drive home and get on the bike from home.

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    Admittedly, I've been sidetracked with a visit from Mom and a family illness, so I apologize for my half-ssed response to the original post. Still, depending on where you live in Brooklyn, I don't think Sunrise or Merrick are bad options. And as I said, there are quiet neighborhood streets that run parallel to them at various points.

    I've never done the ride you had intended to do, so I guess I should've just shut up. But having driven or ridden just about every mile of Sunrise and Merrick in my life, I would still consider the parts in Nassau and Queens "bikeable." So sue me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Tom View Post
    Admittedly, I've been sidetracked with a visit from Mom and a family illness, so I apologize for my half-ssed response to the original post. Still, depending on where you live in Brooklyn, I don't think Sunrise or Merrick are bad options. And as I said, there are quiet neighborhood streets that run parallel to them at various points.

    I've never done the ride you had intended to do, so I guess I should've just shut up. But having driven or ridden just about every mile of Sunrise and Merrick in my life, I would still consider the parts in Nassau and Queens "bikeable." So sue me.
    I think it all depends on your level of stress tolerance... Besides, the exhaust fumes from the traffic there are also a concern. There are just too many cars, too many trucks. It's a major artery on LI, I'd try to avoid it at all costs...

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    I live between Sunrise and Merrick and would not advise either as a bike route.

    Sunrise possibly on a Sunday morning at 7AM, but otherwise it's a 3 lane highway, with a speed limit in some area's of 50, others at 30, and everybody doing 60 at times. Occasionally a shoulder, sometimes parked cars and trucks and how to you merge back into a lane with cars doing 60 ?.

    Merrick Rd. is actually worse. It's 2 lanes each direction, usually no shoulder, speed limit of 30 with cars doing 45. Ton's of side streets as well as parking lots for local businesses, so cars constantly entering/exiting and no visibility.

    I see people riding both at times and wonder how long till they wake up and realize how hazardous it is.

    And no need really. NY State has an east/west bike route (Not marked though) that's also the NY Century, Ride to Montauk and Bike 2 beach route. Freom Valley Stream to Massapequa Park it's: Hendrickson, Lakeview, Seaman, Smith, Grand, Wilson, Park, Clark streets. All run parallel to and a few blocks north of Sunrise and is what everybody uses.

    This map details the useful routes:

    https://www.transalt.org/files/resources/mapnassau.html

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    Final word for me, only because people seem to keep missing that I'm saying there are quiet neighborhood streets that run parallel to Sunrise and Merrick. For example, to get from the southern end of the Bethpage Bikeway to Cedar Creek Park, I use Ocean Avenue to Prospect Place to Hicksville Road, then on to Maple Street, Seaford Ave, the Takapausha Preserve,Washington Ave, Waverly Avenue, Willoughby, the rear of the shopping center on Merrick Rd, Spruce Ave, Walters Ave, and Fir Street. With a little bit of time to strain your eyes staring at Google Maps, you can find ways to keep riding on 27 and 27a down to a minimum. However, I do realize that, if you're riding from Stony Brook to Brooklyn, you may want to hammer a little more than I do, so perhaps I'm way off the mark here. Guilty, as charged. Sorry you're not doing the ride anyway!
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    There is one more factor that I didn't consider now that I'm getting ready to ride from my house in Brooklyn, the wind. There's been a steady 10-15 mph WSW wind today that while it does not qualify as killer, would have certainly made the ride less enjoyable.

    I'm sure there were lots of routes that I could have taken, but would I be able to follow them without a queue sheet and other riders to watch? Even if the road was marked with Dan Henrys for the organized routes I'd be going in the opposite direction.

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    [QUOTE=zacster;15997643
    I'm sure there were lots of routes that I could have taken, but would I be able to follow them without a queue sheet and other riders to watch? Even if the road was marked with Dan Henrys for the organized routes I'd be going in the opposite direction.[/QUOTE]

    Bottom line is no. It's easily 60-70 miles, one-way, thru too congested an area to be "direct". A cue sheet would get you there, but you'd be stopping a lot to read the sheet, then check the map app to see exactly where you are. As well, in order to make the ride more enjoyable, there are aspects to the route that deliberately make it not direct. No getting around that, but for the route I suggested, I do THAT route as it safe and enjoyable as a commute.

    It's a good ride though....

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    @ Tom

    Not sure if you know the "typical" to-the-beach route from the BP path. By typical, I see a whole lot of folks riding this route, so I'm not the only user.

    Clark, west to under the SOB. Left on Park, stay on park to Beech, go left.

    Pass Sunrise, go to Merrick, left on Merrick and the entrance to CCP is right there. It doesn't get you the final mile on the BP from Sunrise to Merrick, but is a whole lot convoluted if you are describing it to somebody.

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    Steve:

    I've tried the "Clark" route -- at your suggestion, I believe. I prefer my route because it doesn't cut out as much of the bikeway, specifically that last stretch around the lake. Mine has many more turns and tricks to remember, though, and also incorporates a little stretch of woods riding. For this reason alone, I would guess that the Clark route would be more popular.
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