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    lack of signs at NYC borders

    This isn't, strictly speaking, a bicycling issue. But I thought that it might be of interest to fellow bicyclists, as we tend to be very aware of geography.

    It's unfortunate that the borders of New York City are not marked with signs. Most of the border line with Nassau County and Westchester County is unmarked in any way; though on major roads there is sometimes a sign saying "Nassau County" or "Westchester County", and perhaps even a sign indicating the town. But, on the other side of the street, there is no equivalent sign announcing the entry into New York City. The best that one can hope for is a sign announcing that right-on-red is illegal in New York City.

    When I was a kid, I used to ride out from Queens via Hillside Ave. to a comic book store out in New Hyde Park; and, at that time (the 1970s) there were signs at the border that said "New York City" and "Nassau County". But those signs are not there anymore.

    Even on the George Washington Bridge bike lane, there is no marker of the City border (which, of course, is also the state border).

    The lack of signs at the New York City borders really irks me. When riding through Long Island or Westchester or New Jersey, I notice that every municipality is marked with a sign at its border. Why don't we have this at the borders of our City? Does this bother anyone else? Is there perhaps one such sign somewhere that I don't know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdinand NYC View Post
    The lack of signs at the New York City borders really irks me. When riding through Long Island or Westchester or New Jersey, I notice that every municipality is marked with a sign at its border. Why don't we have this at the borders of our City? Does this bother anyone else? Is there perhaps one such sign somewhere that I don't know about?
    I hear 'ya. It's a lot of those stupid little things that add up in NYC that can drive you crazy, literally.

    One of my favorites, down near Beach 9 street in the Far Rockaway's is a sign on a telephone pole that says " <- LGA Airport". It's likely the least obvious place for such a sign and I'm certain it's the last such sign between this location and the actual airport, when there probably (50 years ago) was an entire planned and signed route, and why not " <- JFK Airport", which is actually nearby ?.

    I think it's a result of the city (and all municipalities in the US) cutting back over the decades on actually having people on the city payroll who actually WORK for the city (a joke in itself sometimes) and actually take care, or used to take care of all these little details. There's certainly a huge lack of supervision of the contractors that are hired to undertake projects for the city, with the result that all kinds of stuff gets missed, like when street lighting poles are replaced - under contract of course, and the contractor just skips putting back onto those poles the "Welcome to NYC" signs that once existed. The city highway department doesn't do this work most of the time and there's been a steady decline in staff and supervisors working for the city who check the details. Thus the steady erosion of the quality of the infrastructures.

    I work at a City of NY college and deal with this constantly. I also see it as a constant reminder on the bike path along Flatbush Ave., by a contractor of course, the path that is maybe 10 years old is in terrible condition because the NYC Parks Dept. doesn't have the requisite employees to actually maintain what they have.

    Such is the mystery that is NYC.
    Last edited by Steve B.; 08-28-14 at 03:40 PM.

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