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    Wildfire along the Davis Double route today

    There was a wildfire along Highway 128 that started sometime early this morning that shut down highway 128 along the part of the DD route between Pleasants Valley Road (at the Paradesa Market) and Highway 121 (at Moskovite Corner).

    Come to find out on account of the 128 shutdown, the DD was run today as an "out and back," reversing the course to the Cobb Rest Stop, and then returning the same way.

    Have to feel sorry for the the organizers and the volunteers, they had some serious logistical challenges to deal with !

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    Yea, I know it Jobob, first hand. Just got back from Davis.

    Ever try to do Cobb Mountain in reverse? It's the same route that Knoxville takes ... that was one tough mother f#%@#$. I had to dismount, and walk part of Loch Lomand, for about 100-200 yards, till I got to a fairly flat section, and in the shade. It was brutal. It was probably around 16-20% during that section.
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    Nope, I've only done the other side of Cobb Mtn, as an up and back.

    Poor bunkie ! Thhat must have been a really stressful ride.

    Well, I have a ride report for you as well, since my friends and I got to ride past the fire.

    We did our planned route in reverse once we were diverted off Hiway 128 at Pleasants Valley Rd at around 7:30 am. So we went down to Farifield, then headed back up Wooden Valley and Hiway 121, hoping that maybe Hwy 128 would be open by the time we reached Moskovite Corner. No such luck. But the Caltrans employee manning the road block said we could go on ahead, but she couldn't guarantee that we wouldn't be turned back once we reached the fire area. We figured it was worth a try.

    We had Highway 128 practically all to ourselves heading over Cardiac and down to the dam. That was ever so cool. As we were descending Cardiac we could see the smoke billowing from the bottom of the valley. When we regrouped at the dam before the last of the descent, I asked my friends if we were about to become candidates for the Darwin Award.

    We continued on in true damn-the-torpedoes fashion. We reached the bottom of the hill and crossed the bridge and approached the RV park. By then we could actually see flames along the road up past the RV park. We continued on with a bit of trepidation (as much about the fire as the prospect of having to turn back and climb Cardiac again, and backtrack our 60-ish mile route back to Winters, which was about 10 miles ahead of us at the time). We spoke to some firefighters who said the road would be OK to pass.

    So, onward through the fire zone! At this point the road was up against the hillside, which had pretty much burned out by then but there were still small isolated fires. It was so weird riding along the road where there were flames right along the road - they were almost lickin' at our heels!! (well, if we were ridingon the other side of the road). The firefighters were letting them burn out but they were also watching them carefully since it was so close to the RV park. We then pass thru an area that had already burned out, it was so creepy. All together the fire was about a mile or so along the road. Fascinating expereince!

    Once we were out of the fire zone, it was an easy 10 miles back to our starting point in Winters. It's a ride I won't soon forget!

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    Cobb Mountain was tough. Somewhere on the way up, my left knee really started hurting. After doing a 300K in February, I had to take almost a month off the bike because of that knee, and it seemed like the scenario was repeating itself -- so much so that I almost decided to quit at the Cobb Mountain rest stop.

    Instead, I ended up taking a half-hour break there, and decided to press on. The knee pain never went away, but it never got as bad as the 300K experience either (where I basically had to do the last 40 miles in my granny gear because that was the biggest gear I could pedal.)

    As tough as going up Cobb Mountain was, descending it was a blast -- that was the best part of the ride by far. That, and the grilled cheese sandwiches at the final rest stop.

    Given the last-minute route change, the Davis Bike club and its volunteers did a wonderful job. At the return stop on Resurrection, I thought I must have been looking really bad because as soon as I got off the bike, a volunteer was taking my bottles from me, asking me what I wanted him to fill them with, etc. -- then I saw they were offering this level of service to everyone.

    For a moment I felt like Lance with his domestiques, then when I started pedaling again, that feeling quickly disappeared. Luckily, the hard part of the ride was over by then. It was mostly downhill or level until the end, and there was one tandem-led paceline that I managed to catch for the crucial 160 - 190 mile stretch where I had had enough riding (and knee pain) for the day and just wanted to be done.

    While Davis has a rep as an easy double with no climbing, I found it to be pretty difficult. On the flats, at the beginning you are lulled into jumping on fast pacelines, and that can tire you out as much as climbing. Then, they pack the 8000 feet of climbing in the middle 100 miles. All in all, though, it was a good ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstantRider
    While Davis has a rep as an easy double with no climbing, I found it to be pretty difficult. On the flats, at the beginning you are lulled into jumping on fast pacelines, and that can tire you out as much as climbing. Then, they pack the 8000 feet of climbing in the middle 100 miles. All in all, though, it was a good ride.
    I think it was an old reputation, before the ride went up to Cobb Mountain. Even without the re-routing, the original ride would still be > 8000 feet climbing in 200 miles. So I would not consider Davis one of the easiest, but it definitely is one of the best supported rides (single or double century). Solvang Spring double is a good first double century for novices.
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    We did it on tandem, blew the first two rest stops, got to the top of resurrection with about 100 other folks and no water. Cytomax with sprite and mnt dew !!! The water truck showed just as we were leaving. Cobb was pretty steep.

    And it is hands down the best supported ride I've ever been on. (this was my second dd)
    Its all downhill from somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamawe
    We did it on tandem, blew the first two rest stops, got to the top of resurrection with about 100 other folks and no water. Cytomax with sprite and mnt dew !!! The water truck showed just as we were leaving. Cobb was pretty steep.

    And it is hands down the best supported ride I've ever been on. (this was my second dd)
    I love your nickname, btw ... I am in awe of you. Cobb was tough enough on a single, but to do that on a double ... I am not worthy. I think by the time we got to Cobb, we were a handful of the last ones. I think we left Cobb by around 1:30 or 2:00. I thought we would never make it. Many many kudos to you for doing it on a tandem.

    I've never had so much Mountain Dew before until this ride. And I completely agree on the support. I guess it's why this is so popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spingineer
    I think it was an old reputation, before the ride went up to Cobb Mountain. Even without the re-routing, the original ride would still be > 8000 feet climbing in 200 miles. So I would not consider Davis one of the easiest, but it definitely is one of the best supported rides (single or double century). Solvang Spring double is a good first double century for novices.
    I believe I read somewhere that the old route had 7500 feet of climbing, and that the new route added 800. So I was expecting 8000+ feet -- but spread out over 200 miles, that doesn't sound so bad. Since most of that 8000 feet is actually confined to less than half the route, it was more of a climbing day than I had anticipated.

    As for support, here's a blog post from a volunteer with some interesting anecdotes and info, including the fact that they had an airplane flying overhead to facilitate radio communication amongst the SAG vehicles. That's a well-organized, well-equipped support team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstantRider

    As for support, here's a blog post from a volunteer with some interesting anecdotes and info, including the fact that they had an airplane flying overhead to facilitate radio communication amongst the SAG vehicles. That's a well-organized, well-equipped support team!
    Wow, that's a great blog, and account of the day. I was thoroughly impressed by their support, and knowing they had airplane radio coverage is even more amazing. It was good to hear that the tandem, with private sag wagon, did actually get what was coming to them. I don't understand why some people insist on doing that. It's wrong, and like the blogger said, it cheats the organizer. I was wondering about the tandem with the little girl. I missed my chance to take a picture of her at the first rest stop ... she was really cute.

    Thanks for sharing this. Awesome blog!
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    cracked wheel

    The Davis was really weird, I almost bailed in the beginnig. Every thing was going south. Coming down resurection the first time I hit a rock and didn't realize my wheel was cracked in three places. My bike wobbled the rest of the ride. When I got to cobb rest stop I found my break pad on the back was rubbing so I had climbed Cobb with my break on. I had to loosen it all the way and decend back down with only my front brake, and my wheel was woblbling so bad I couldn't do over 35 mph. But I made it and got up and did the Bay to Breakers Sunday
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    Goodness ! You win the prize for tenacity, Pf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobob
    Goodness ! You win the prize for tenacity, Pf.
    +1 ... doing Loch Lomond and Cobb Mountain with your brake pad rubbing? And I thought I had it bad riding with walking shorts. I knew another guy, who had his crank arm break, climbing resurrection. In the end, they got him a different bike, swapped a bunch of parts, and off he went. However, when we got back, he had to go fetch everything for his original bike. What an adventure!
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    I know someone mentioned the little girl with her Father on the Tandem, I've posted some pictures on Myspace http://myspace.com/rollingmusic
    Even though it was tough this year, I still had a great time and met some really cool people
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    Quote Originally Posted by taxi777
    I know someone mentioned the little girl with her Father on the Tandem, I've posted some pictures on Myspace http://myspace.com/rollingmusic

    Pf in SF
    They're pretty cool. They did our Primavera Century. He's drilled her shoes and put SPD cleats on the bottom. Got her Winnie The Pooh helmet on eBay.

    Hmmm, I wonder how that couple on the tandem that only had one registered rider would feel explaining that to a police officer helping out on the ride?

    Here's another pic of the girl and her father on the tandem, in our online newsletter.

    http://www.pbcsmarketing.com/fremont/newsletter.htm
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    I think I got a pair of bruised butts from riding Davis Double with walking shorts.
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    I did the primavera but I don't remember seeing the Tandem girl. Thats a great pict you have of them on your site Spokin truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spingineer
    I think I got a pair of bruised butts from riding Davis Double with walking shorts.
    LOL, TMI !

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    Quote Originally Posted by spingineer
    I think I got a pair of bruised butts from riding Davis Double with walking shorts.
    OK, I must have missed something earlier, but, I gotta ask...what the hail were you doing riding a dc w/ walking shorts?! Are you, like, a masochist, or something? Or did you leave the Friday pre-ride party in a drunken stupor and showed up on Saturday w/ nothing to wear?

    Taxi777, I guess there's good news and bad news, eh? "I found out I've been riding my bike w/ the brake on and I fixed it, the bad news is I rode it like that for 100 miles..." You could probably kick Lance's butt right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t4mv
    OK, I must have missed something earlier, but, I gotta ask...what the hail were you doing riding a dc w/ walking shorts?! Are you, like, a masochist, or something? Or did you leave the Friday pre-ride party in a drunken stupor and showed up on Saturday w/ nothing to wear?
    Well, the simple answer ... my sheer stupidity. But I guess you want a little more details than that. Simply put, I simply forgot to pack my cycling shorts. All I had were my walking shorts, so instead of missing an opportunity to do this excellent double century, I decided to just go for it with what I had. What was even stranger was at Friday night's dinner, my friend Barbara was telling us how she forgot to bring any cycling clothes at all, and eventually got a friend of hers to loan some. It was a funny story, because the shorts were too big, the jersey didn't fit ... and it just went on and on. Little did I know the same thing ... well almost the same thing ... would happen to me.

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    Hmm, spingineer, you have my sympathies. I'm thinking some enterprising bike shop in Davis (of which there are a good number) could probably make a few bucks by staying open til midnight to cater to the folks who didn't utilize a checklist before the ride. Your friend Barbara, she's pretty brave, wearing borrowed shorts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by t4mv
    Hmm, spingineer, you have my sympathies. I'm thinking some enterprising bike shop in Davis (of which there are a good number) could probably make a few bucks by staying open til midnight to cater to the folks who didn't utilize a checklist before the ride. Your friend Barbara, she's pretty brave, wearing borrowed shorts..
    Well, Barbara is one tough cookie. Although she is not near the top (like Brandy), she still did the first 3 KOM events, and I hear she is signed up for Heartbreak.
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    The DDC was good this year. When I heard at the first rest stop that the course was reversing I was worried but the next rest stop at the fire station was well stocked. Although at the top of resurection The guy standing in line in front of me for water got the last drop. I was able to fill my bottles with ice and I downed a couple v-8 and I headed off. Just a little down the road I saw one of the volenteers with jugs of water at his feet. Sweet! I have got to give it to the Davis Bike Club that even in difficult situations they pull it toghether and make it happen. Thanks DBC.

    A funny side note was that after the second rest stop there was a decent headwind so I got in the drops and got into a rythme at about 18.5mph with my heart rate higher than I should have. I was passing a lot of people and several small pacelines. After a while the road was about to hang a right were it starts to climb so I decided to pull over and take off my base layer. I raised my left arm and pulled to the right and that is when the paceline I was leading started to go by and go by and go by. When I stop and glanced back before pulling my jersey off I could see the long line of riders I was pulling. Had to have been at least sixty but I was busy getting my stuff stowed back in my pockets. I also did my share a wheel leeching off a tandem pace line and also some Webcore guys that were ripping it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberusgl
    The DDC was good this year. When I heard at the first rest stop that the course was reversing I was worried but the next rest stop at the fire station was well stocked. Although at the top of resurection The guy standing in line in front of me for water got the last drop. I was able to fill my bottles with ice and I downed a couple v-8 and I headed off. Just a little down the road I saw one of the volenteers with jugs of water at his feet. Sweet! I have got to give it to the Davis Bike Club that even in difficult situations they pull it toghether and make it happen. Thanks DBC.

    A funny side note was that after the second rest stop there was a decent headwind so I got in the drops and got into a rythme at about 18.5mph with my heart rate higher than I should have. I was passing a lot of people and several small pacelines. After a while the road was about to hang a right were it starts to climb so I decided to pull over and take off my base layer. I raised my left arm and pulled to the right and that is when the paceline I was leading started to go by and go by and go by. When I stop and glanced back before pulling my jersey off I could see the long line of riders I was pulling. Had to have been at least sixty but I was busy getting my stuff stowed back in my pockets. I also did my share a wheel leeching off a tandem pace line and also some Webcore guys that were ripping it up.
    +1 ... DDC has a reputation of great support, and they sure didn't disappoint this time either. The twist of having to change the route at the last minute is a testiment to their support. Other organizations would have faltered, and availability of supplies at rest stop would have been minimal, but that was not the same here. I think all of us, who did the Davis Double, and loved the ride, should make it a point to write to the organizers and give their kudos to the organizers. It was as if the route planned was something they did on a regular basis, even though they didn't.
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