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Old 03-01-08, 06:44 PM   #1
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BF Other Ride 3/1 Report

I am the first one back home fresh from a nice shower so I have the honor of the first report.
Thanks Paula for initiating this beautiful ride, we were 8 BF riders and met several others at the start or along the road, notably BigBossman and his lovely family.
The temperature was on the cool side at the start but actually quite comfortable for a long ride (54 miles, 4200' of climbing). The strong headwind prevented us from establishing new personal speed records on the downhills (only 42 mph where I hit 49.5 last year) but we will have other occasions. I had ridden almost the same route in the last 3 Grizzly Peak Centuries but with the climbs in a different order. The GPC starts with McEwen followed by Alhambra Valley and then the Bears. Today we started by the Alhambra Valley making it and the following Bears a lot less tedious, they were actually nice warmups. McEwen is still its own intimidating self however I had the advantage of knowing it so I could pace myself quite nicely. Pete, as usual, flew away and left us in the dust, Ramon was not far though. But that wasn't enough for Pete... he went down to catch the rest of the crew and up again. This guy is a mountain goat.

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Actually, I posted a report in the other thread, but my timestamp is 4:49. You just beat me.

Here is is:

What a nice day to be out and about!

We parked at Alhambra and hwy 4 at about 9:30-10:00am or so. It was windy, overcast, and kind of cold - but we went anyway.

Going up the back side of Pig Farm was a nice warm-up, and the descent was a little tricky with a brisk head/crosswind. We managed to meet up with the other BF group at a donut shop in Pinole, and then split off again to loop through Hercules, Rodeo, and then up and over the Cummings Skyway to Franklin Canyon. While transiting the skyway, we were passed by Curtis about midway up. The descent down Franklin Canyon was a nice, easy cruise, and then we were back to the truck and done. All told, about 27 miles, 2800' of climbing, and about 2-1/2 hours in the saddle.

The wind never really eased up, but the overcast did dissipate and the day warmed up quite acceptably. This was the first real shakedown for my 12 year old daughter's Battaglin (built by "yours truly"), and it performed flawlessly. She is quite thrilled with it.

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Looking down Pig Farm (Alhambra Road):


The bike rack at Jack In The Box, Pinole:


Climbing up Cummings Skyway, with Vallejo and points north in the background:


My daughter, just before summiting on the skyway, all smiles on her pretty blue Battaglin:
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'Twere a lovely day for a ride. Thanks again, Ms. I, for getting the ball rolling and setting this all up. Despite my protests, I had a great time.


Once the clouds burned off and the sun came out, it was a very pleasant day, on a route with lots of picturesque scenery to distract you from that nagging pain in your legs.



Members of the "Slow & Steady Wins The Race" group, mtnwalker, msincredible, and myself (not shown).



Some of the "Fast & Steady Wins The Race Even More" group, Bostic and gpelpel.



Lunch was at the fabulous Subway restaurant in scenic wherever-the-hell.



Scenery mocks the riders of this Hill Of Death.

No, seriously. I'm not ashamed to admit that I had to walk a few sections of this climb, and in the time that I did, I spotted no fewer than three cars that had rolled to their demise down the hill to the right, and possibly four. One of them was once a Karmann-Ghia, which made me sad.



Near the end of the ride, more scenery, featuring a goofy little tufty shrub thing.


Previous to this ride, I had been considering getting a second set of wheels for my bike, featuring a closer-ratio cassette and skinnier tires. This ride has made me realize that that would do me no favors, and that what I need to do instead is build up a bike specifically for such wheels, in addition to a triple.
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It was good seeing Pete (Taxi777) and Ms. Incredible at the BART station. We went the other way - through Clayton and down Morgan Territory. We had lots of attrition on our ride - one rider had mechanical problems with his bike (self-shifting), and he and the 2 others he rode to the start with turned around and were going back to the bike shop (it had been in for service this week).

We also had a rider fall - not sure what happened, but word is that she's ok (she was air-lifted to a hospital). This was on Morgan Territory - after the climb up the poorly paved road, and after the steep descent - on the stupid little rollers leading to the intersection with Manning Rd. Several of our group caught a ride to the hospital with some super-nice mountain bikers who had been out in Morgan Territory, and a couple of others needed to high-tail it back because of other commitments. So our initial group of 14 was down to 6 (!). Just in time to ride back into the wind on Highland and Tassajara. Uggh - working hard to go 12mph. We nixed Mt. Diablo - just too much already happened on this ride.

What was a really great ride up to the fall sure turned kind of ugly.

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PS - I did hit 54 mph going down Morgan Territoy - easily the fastest I've gone down that hill. The cross winds weren't a problem until we hit the flatter part near the stop sign.

PSS - sounds like you guys had a much better ride - I'll have to try that route one of these days.
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Nice ride indeed!
Loved the climbing. I hit some real heartbeat highs along the way.
I rode up Cummings Skyway and down Franklin Canyon because I needed to get back and pick up my daughter. I hadn't scheduled the lunch stop. So I missed the HILL OF DEATH.

It was a great ride for me because I'd done lots of it before, but saw some areas I can't believe I'd missed.

My Garmin stopped between Withers and Pig Farm, so in my GPS program it looks like we flew between those two points. Otherwise, I had a great day!
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One of them was once a Karmann-Ghia, which made me sad.
Glad I didn't go. I'd need a 2nd box of Kleenex for that atrocity.
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My son and I got a late start so we were on Cummings at 2:30PM and going counterclockwise. As I passed by McEwen, I'm glad I didn't ride with you folks. I don't think I would've been able to make that climb. Got home late around 4:30 and was freezing my butt off at the end.
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Yet another great ride with some of the BF crew. I think what makes these rides so great is that there is always an ever changing cast of characters for each ride. Lots of the same ones which always makes me feel like seeing family again, others I haven’t seen in awhile and it’s like a home coming. Then there’s the new faces, unseen but for their avatar. Now how do you ever get bored with that kind of dynamic? New face of the day x136 , didn’t recognize him because the dinosaur wasn’t biting his head : ( . I took my first Bart/bike ride today in over 2 decades. I felt like a school kid on his first bus ride. I had a helmet on but ,the bus wasn’t that short or yellow like my “special school mommy and daddy sent me to” when I was 37 with my Flinstones lunchbox. Got there very early and got a Blanco/Mocha and practiced my Spanish with the very nice Hispanic clerk In the bart store. Ran into some of the TnT guys from the Diablo ride awhile back. JohnathanB showed and It was nice to chat. He’s been so busy with the TnT that we seem to keep crossing paths. Keep rollin Johnathan. Ramone (Bostic) showed up and began his primping for the ride….it’s that drummer personality, their all the same…believe me I know 1st hand. Paula showed up and I said wow! Glad you could make the ride! She said it’s my ride? I realized I’m mixing up rides now…oops. Curtis arrived with tall Trish (aka Joice) Joice was wearing a name tag that said “I’m not Trish” and the Cal license plate “Joice” should have been my first clue. X136, MtnWalker (Tony) showed up. George (Gpelpel). We headed right out. I’m always so busy catching up with everyone and chatting I never know where the hell we are. I discussed the plans for the Davis double with Curtis and we decided that we would split for a hotel. So it looks like He’s in for sure. Alan and Ron too. Let’s get some more BF’rs for Davis We got to pig farm pretty quick. I’d never been down that way, east/west. George was excited because he had broken the world speed record going down. I was sure I could match him, I could feel it today, so I made sure to be first up to the top so no one would be in my way going down…vroooom down into a horrible headwind I thought I would have to get off my bike and wait for a bus to get to the bottom : ( ..Maybe next time I would vanquish Georges land speed record. We regrouped and started around the three bears. I think Joice was getting irritated with the the too long breaks and started out on her own pace a few times, so never got to hang out to much, she was always at the front of the pack. We ran into Hermes/Velodiva, saddling up their killer Santana Tandem. We hung out for awhile and split, the Tandem tornado whipped by me and I jammed after them just catching them and slid right in to a nice 22 mph groove! My heart monitor was at 80%..Perfect! As we caught George and Curtis I laughed and waved “ See ya kids!” they launched after us…Whoooo hoooo! So much fun, but after awhile I looked back and everyone dropped off so I un hooked my self and dropped off like a paratrooper all alone and floating. Hermes/Velodiva we’re stoking off over the horizen. Hope someday I get to do a century with those two. Well the group heeded my whining and we stopped to get some food. We ran into BigBossman with his great looking family and awesome bikes. In fact I ran into them by accident in a parking lot I was checking out BigBoss’s Pinnarello and realized he was riding it. He did a great job on his daughters bike, and she seemed like a natural on it. Watch out Olympics 2012 here she comes. We ate some food took off and climbed through the refineries, beautiful green hills. I’d never been here before. Curtis split early to catch up with Joice. He needed a ride home. We continued on to the Crazy last climb. Straight up forever! I had just downed a goo and power bar so I had a slight energy boost. On the way up I saw a nice art shot that I couldn’t get with my cell phone so I went back down to make sure Paula and Xman would get a shot for me. Anyway back down and all the way back to P.H. Bart. Probably one of the best parts of the trip was the good fortune of riding back with Paula on the Bart train to S.F. . I had a fantastic conversation with a remarkable young woman and I think she’s 1 in a million. But that’s for another day and most of us know how special she is, and fun to hang out with. Thanks for setting up the ride Paula and making my first Bart ride in a long time a truly enjoyable one. Hope you get some decent sleep before your new endeavor next week.
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Wow. You guys always have such fun.

I swear. ONE day I'll be able to make it.

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Hey ya'll. I need to add couple of photos here. And send aapplause to BigBossMan. Nice photos! And the one of your daughter on her bike is a keeper. You need to print that so she'll have a copy to show off when she's 83.





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Oh, gpelpel. It's important that you make your window the right shape to properly display the amazing awesome stunning nature of the climbs.

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... I discussed the plans for the Davis double with Curtis and we decided that we would split for a hotel.

...the Tandem tornado whipped by me and I jammed after them just catching them and slid right in to a nice 22 mph groove! My heart monitor was at 80%..Perfect!

...Hope someday I get to do a century with those two.

Nice write-up, Pete.

Re: the DDC, the easiest way to do it is to sit in the pack of 20-30 riders wheelsucking off a pack of 4-5 tandems, if you're lucky enough to cross paths with one.
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Great reports guys. I wish I could have been on the ride with you.
BBM your daughter at age 12 looks taller than me! If the she's too tall for that bike, my daughter can grow into it
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[SIZE=2]Yet another great ride with some of the BF crew. I think what makes these rides so great is that there is always an ever changing cast of characters for each ride. Lots of the same ones which always makes me feel like seeing family again, others I haven’t seen in awhile and it’s like a home coming. Then there’s the new faces, unseen but for their avatar. Now how do you ever get bored with that kind of dynamic? New face of the day x136 , didn’t recognize him because the dinosaur wasn’t biting his head : ( . I took my first Bart/bike ride today in over 2 decades. I felt like a school kid on his first bus ride. I had a helmet on but ,the bus wasn’t that short or yellow like my “special school mommy and daddy sent me to” when I was 37 with my Flinstones lunchbox. Got there very early and got a Blanco/Mocha and practiced my Spanish with the very nice Hispanic clerk In the bart store. Ran into some of the TnT guys from the Diablo ride awhile back. JohnathanB showed and It was nice to chat. He’s been so busy with the TnT that we seem to keep crossing paths. Keep rollin Johnathan. Ramone (Bostic) showed up and began his primping for the ride….it’s that drummer personality, their all the same…believe me I know 1st hand. Paula showed up and I said wow! Glad you could make the ride! She said it’s my ride? I realized I’m mixing up rides now…oops. Curtis arrived with tall Trish (aka Joice) Joice was wearing a name tag that said “I’m not Trish” and the Cal license plate “Joice” should have been my first clue. X136, MtnWalker (Tony) showed up. George (Gpelpel). We headed right out. I’m always so busy catching up with everyone and chatting I never know where the hell we are. I discussed the plans for the Davis double with Curtis and we decided that we would split for a hotel. So it looks like He’s in for sure. Alan and Ron too. Let’s get some more BF’rs for Davis We got to pig farm pretty quick. I’d never been down that way, east/west. George was excited because he had broken the world speed record going down. I was sure I could match him, I could feel it today, so I made sure to be first up to the top so no one would be in my way going down…vroooom down into a horrible headwind I thought I would have to get off my bike and wait for a bus to get to the bottom : ( ..Maybe next time I would vanquish Georges land speed record. We regrouped and started around the three bears. I think Joice was getting irritated with the the too long breaks and started out on her own pace a few times, so never got to hang out to much, she was always at the front of the pack. We ran into Hermes/Velodiva, saddling up their killer Santana Tandem. We hung out for awhile and split, the Tandem tornado whipped by me and I jammed after them just catching them and slid right in to a nice 22 mph groove! My heart monitor was at 80%..Perfect! As we caught George and Curtis I laughed and waved “ See ya kids!” they launched after us…Whoooo hoooo! So much fun, but after awhile I looked back and everyone dropped off so I un hooked my self and dropped off like a paratrooper all alone and floating. Hermes/Velodiva we’re stoking off over the horizen. Hope someday I get to do a century with those two. Well the group heeded my whining and we stopped to get some food. We ran into BigBossman with his great looking family and awesome bikes. In fact I ran into them by accident in a parking lot I was checking out BigBoss’s Pinnarello and realized he was riding it. He did a great job on his daughters bike, and she seemed like a natural on it. Watch out Olympics 2012 here she comes. We ate some food took off and climbed through the refineries, beautiful green hills. I’d never been here before. Curtis split early to catch up with Joice. He needed a ride home. We continued on to the Crazy last climb. Straight up forever! I had just downed a goo and power bar so I had a slight energy boost. On the way up I saw a nice art shot that I couldn’t get with my cell phone so I went back down to make sure Paula and Xman would get a shot for me. Anyway back down and all the way back to P.H. Bart. Probably one of the best parts of the trip was the good fortune of riding back with Paula on the Bart train to S.F. . I had a fantastic conversation with a remarkable young woman and I think she’s 1 in a million. But that’s for another day and most of us know how special she is, and fun to hang out with. Thanks for setting up the ride Paula and making my first Bart ride in a long time a truly enjoyable one. Hope you get some decent sleep before your new endeavor next week.
Velodiva and I drove out to do a recon/practice ride in preparation for the Berkeley Team Time Trial next Sunday. We will be competing in the tandem category. So it was totally cool when George aka Gpelpel (in his NorCal jersey) came up to us and asked "Are you Velodiva?" I recognized you from the Bikeforum pictures." The internet definitely makes this a small world. We enjoyed meeting Pete aka Taxi777 and George - looks like they were having a fun ride.

After our start, we saw two riders ahead but did not know that they were George and Curtis. As we passed them, I saw you on our wheel. I do not know how it was to draft behind us but I was buffeted by strong head winds. We hope that there will be less wind for next week's race.
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Hey curtis, something is missing here. Where is the 16.1% grade of the HILL OF DEATH? Did we loose you somewhere?
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Hey curtis, something is missing here. Where is the 16.1% grade of the HILL OF DEATH? Did we loose you somewhere?
I took the Skyway back as I knew Joyce was waiting AND I needed to get my daughter to work. I still got 52 miles in. And got home just in time to deal with the daughter.

BTW, does your Garmin ever fail to resume recording after it auto pauses? I lost the info between Withers and our regroup at Alhambra Valley Road. The darn stop watch icon that confirms recording is so small I can't really see it when i ride. I think my next cycling glasses will have to be bifocals.
Anyway, i wonder if I'm somehow hitting a button when i stop, which seems unlikely.
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....And send aapplause to BigBossMan. Nice photos! And the one of your daughter on her bike is a keeper. You need to print that so she'll have a copy to show off when she's 83.
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Thanks for the compliment, but the photo has a flaw - non-drive side. BTW, that Kestrel is a real looker!! The coppertone finish reminds me of the old Schwinns we used to ride around as children. I totaly dug the unique design features of the frame...... it's nice to have a bike that stands out, eh?


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She's 5'2" as of last week's measurement. It has been pointed out to me a few times that the bike looks small for her, but the reach is good and she's not cramped in the cockpit - and that is with a 60mm stem. She's all legs. Still, I'm sure she's not through growing and sooner or later I'll have to build another - damn.

Trust me, when I do migrate the components off that frame and onto the next, there will be a line for that Battaglin frameset. You're not the first to drop hints.
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Hey curtis, something is missing here. Where is the 16.1% grade of the HILL OF DEATH? Did we loose you somewhere?
Oh, whew. I was looking at that graph, and thinking, "Oh, there's no way that was only 9 or 10%..." Heh.

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Was it, by any chance, pointed out by people who might fit such a frame? She looks comfortable on it in that picture (and it is a great picture, driveside or not), though. Frames that small, when combined with 700c wheels, tend to look even smaller than they are.

Besides, given the random nature of growth spurts at that age, you may very well wake up one of these days, and suddenly find yourself needing to find a 57cm frame anyway.
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Now that's more like it!
Yeah, I don't feel so bad having to do a bit of walking on that last bad hill myself after seeing that.

All, thanks for showing up to my ride, that was really nice! Beautiful scenery (except for the lunch stop and the refineries), fantastic company, and apart from the winds, nice weather too. Pete, thanks for the company and nice chat on the BART ride home, that was really nice.

I want to thank everyone for being so patient with me, my body definitely was telling me that extreme sleep deprivation is not so good for bike riding, guess I need more than 10 hours sleep per week.
I certainly slept well last night though.

Three independent BF member sightings, was that a first? jonathanb715, bigbossman, and Hermes and Velodiva, great to see you!

Adding on the rides to and from BART, my total was 79 miles, about 4600' for yesterday.
On the way to BART in the morning, I think I accidentally got caught by a red light camera.
On the way back, the only direct trains went to SFO, not Millbrae. I didn't want to bother transferring, so I rode from SFO.

Well, I'd never ridden there before, so wasn't sure how to get out onto the road. I came very close to finding myself on 101 (and even worse, 101 in the wrong direction)!

I walked back up the ramp on the edge of the shoulder so I could stay way to the side.

Anyway, for anyone who finds themselves in the same boat, exit at the South end of the BART station to the international terminal. Head over to the hourly parking and take the elevator down to the Ground floor. Then it's pretty easy.

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gpelpel, OrbeaJ, cccorlew and taxi777 and some llamas just before the Bears.


Picturesque lunch stop in Pinole...


...at least the parking was convenient.


Cool bush picture for Pete (let me know if you want higher-res shots, I took 3):


The two bikes cuddling on BART together - what a cute couple!


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Old 03-02-08, 04:45 PM   #24
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Yeah, I don't feel so bad having to do a bit of walking on that last bad hill myself after seeing that.
To be fair, it was still a climb, just a different kind of climb.

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Just got up, then?

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Oh no! I hope they can't make out your license plate!

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Heh, the headlight on your bike makes it look like yours is checking Pete's out.
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With the light on your bike, it looks like it has eyes, and that it's looking at something on the left. Too cute
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