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    Canyon Classic Century - Who's in?

    I am doing the full century version of this ride. Any other BF members doing this ride?

    Also, those who did it in the past, can you offer any suggestions, tips, etc. about this ride? Thanks.

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    I was pondering the idea of doing the Hamilton Hill Climb ride ( 13,000 feet over 88 miles) but I'm doing the Sierra tomorrow and hills are my weakest link. I'm going to take a pass on this. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspoke View Post
    I was pondering the idea of doing the Hamilton Hill Climb ride ( 13,000 feet over 88 miles) but I'm doing the Sierra tomorrow and hills are my weakest link. I'm going to take a pass on this. Sorry.
    Redspoke, that Hamilton Hill does look scary. I imagine hills are not going to be your weakest link any longer if you do the Sierra tomorrow and then the Hamilton climb the following weekend. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1jacktripper View Post

    Also, those who did it in the past, can you offer any suggestions, tips, etc. about this ride? Thanks.
    It's fun! Small field. Volunteers are friendly but aren't cyclists so the SAGs don't have pedal wrenches or tire irons (one guy had a basketball pump he thought would work on bike tires).

    I'd bet on lots of wind at the finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
    It's fun! Small field. Volunteers are friendly but aren't cyclists so the SAGs don't have pedal wrenches or tire irons (one guy had a basketball pump he thought would work on bike tires).

    I'd bet on lots of wind at the finish.
    Oh oh...I'm not the most mechanically inclined, so...guess I'll need to brush up on bike maintenance 101 between now until then. Crap.

    LOTS OF WIND = chilly morning start. Not looking forward to that. The ride hasn't even started, and I'm already whiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
    I'd bet on lots of wind at the finish.
    I've done this ride 3 times. There was always 20-25mph winds for the last 25 miles or so -but they are tailwinds.

    Usually, the ride starts a bit chilly and without wind, but gets breezy and warms up quickly. Del Puerto Canyon gets quiet as it closes in around you, and the last couple of miles are pretty windless, warm, and steep. At the top is a short downhill and then a rest stop, and then a few more miles of moderate climbing up Mines Road. It can be hot here, as well. After cresting that, you glide for about 20-25 miles down into the Livermore Valley, and how much fun this glide is depends upon the wind that day. If there is no wind, you will have a fun, effortless cruise. If the wind is up, it will be a headwind and you'll have to pedal for the bulk of the downhill - until the last 2-3 miles, which is a nice fairly steep pitch down to the valley floor.

    Once down, you'll cruise mostly on flats and then over a couple/three big rollers to the lunch stop at about mile 56. From there you climb up Corral Hollow, which (again) can be on the warm side and sheltered from the wind. It is a relatively short climb (2-3 miles), and then you get to descend. The initial descent from the top of Corral Hollow is steep and twisty, and includes some off-camber and tricky increasing radius turns, as well as some dirty corners with loose grit/gravel. If you're not careful, you can get into a lot of trouble very quickly.

    It is a pretty technical decent at first, but once through the top bit you get rewarded with miles and miles of about -2% grade that allows you to lope along at about 25mph with little or no effort. This is the best part of the ride for me, and is quite fun. Eventually you hit the flats in Tracy and the second to last rest stop. From here on in (last 25 miles or so), you typically have a big tailwind - but it comes at a price. The roads through the edges of Tracy are ABYSMAL. They are heavily used by commercial trucking, and are strewn with debris, ridges, potholes, cracks, and fissures. It gets better after you transit Tracy, but the farm roads are still a bit rough and you start dog-legging into and out of tailwind/crosswind. Pretty boring.

    All in all it is a decent ride, pretty well supported, and fairly scenic.

    I'll be there!!
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    bigbossman,

    Cool! Which route are you doing? I hope to run into you there. Currently, I am thinking of being ready to ride by 7, but you know what they say about the best laid plans...

    Would you say the ridership is probably between 500 to 1000? Or is it lower than that? I am wondering if a higher ridership means there will be less scary moments in Tracy roads where..."
    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman View Post
    [t]hey are heavily used by commercial trucking...
    Also, from this, it looks like there's 10,000+ ft. of climbing. Is that correct? I imagine most of the climbing will be done in the beginning to middle of the ride. I can't wait ride there. I've never ridden there before, so this would be a nice change of scenery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspoke View Post
    I was pondering the idea of doing the Hamilton Hill Climb ride ( 13,000 feet over 88 miles) but I'm doing the Sierra tomorrow and hills are my weakest link. I'm going to take a pass on this. Sorry.
    Redspoke,

    It's not even close to 13,000 feet of climbing. Probably more like 8,000.
    Delorme Topo is notorious for it's rediculous climbing stats. I plotted the Death Ride on Topo once and it indicated something like 24,000 feet of climb.

    -Glenn

    Edit - I just created the Patterson to Hamilton summit route on bikely.com. It estimates about 7250 feet of climbing.

    1jacktripper - The century is no where near 10,000 feet of climb either.
    Last edited by gw_12; 06-06-08 at 05:06 PM.

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    I'm in but only doing the Metric. Between wind and the projected 90+ degree weather, that's enough for me.
    They call me "Mr. Mixte"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1jacktripper View Post
    bigbossman,

    Cool! Which route are you doing? I hope to run into you there. Currently, I am thinking of being ready to ride by 7, but you know what they say about the best laid plans...

    Would you say the ridership is probably between 500 to 1000? Or is it lower than that? I am wondering if a higher ridership means there will be less scary moments in Tracy roads where..."

    Also, from this, it looks like there's 10,000+ ft. of climbing. Is that correct? I imagine most of the climbing will be done in the beginning to middle of the ride. I can't wait ride there. I've never ridden there before, so this would be a nice change of scenery.
    When I mentioned heavy commercial truck traffic, that is pretty much during the weekdays. What I meant to infer was that, because of the heavy truck use, the roads are REALLY beat up and strewn with debris. The trucks aren't typically there on Saturday, as I recall.

    Ridership is somewhere in the range you mentioned. It gets strung out pretty quickly so it's hard to tell. IIRC, the climbing total was somewhere in the 3,500' - 5,000' range. Del Puerto Cyn and Corral Hollow are the two major climbs, with a bit of Mines Road tossed in to round it off. it's not a terribly difficult ride as long as the wind and heat are down.

    Beginning of Del Puerto:


    Towards the top of Del Puerto - It closes in pretty good, and gets steep a little later on:


    Looking down the Corral Hollow climb:


    Last 20-25 miles or so:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhendricks View Post
    I'm in but only doing the Metric. Between wind and the projected 90+ degree weather, that's enough for me.
    Bullfrog +45 SPF?

    I'm personally looking forward to the heat. Not so much the wind. The heat will be nice. I need to be comfortable in that heat as part of my training, so this would be good.

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    bigbossman,

    Thanks for the pics. It looks very..well, tree-less out there! I'm glad to hear that the commercial truck traffic might be very light on a Saturday...and that the ridership will be strung out thin: just me and my bike...and the wind...and the heat..

    Thanks for the pics! They look awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbossman View Post
    When I mentioned heavy commercial truck traffic, that is pretty much during the weekdays. What I meant to infer was that, because of the heavy truck use, the roads are REALLY beat up and strewn with debris. The trucks aren't typically there on Saturday, as I recall.

    Ridership is somewhere in the range you mentioned. It gets strung out pretty quickly so it's hard to tell. IIRC, the climbing total was somewhere in the 3,500' - 5,000' range. Del Puerto Cyn and Corral Hollow are the two major climbs, with a bit of Mines Road tossed in to round it off. it's not a terribly difficult ride as long as the wind and heat are down.

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    When you read my Sierra Century report you'll understand why I'm definitely out on this one...

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    Me and my wife are riding this one. I am riding the Hamilton Challenge (Training for Climb to Kaiser) and she is doing the 100. Last year we both rode the Metric and really enjoyed it. The roads were virtually traffic free and the support was excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspoke View Post
    When you read my Sierra Century report you'll understand why I'm definitely out on this one...
    redspoke, sounds like fun. when is the report coming out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumbutter View Post
    Me and my wife are riding this one. I am riding the Hamilton Challenge (Training for Climb to Kaiser) and she is doing the 100. Last year we both rode the Metric and really enjoyed it. The roads were virtually traffic free and the support was excellent.
    rumbutter, are you guys going to race each other?

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    I am doing the 100. This will be my first full century. I am looking forward to it since I will not have to drive too far to get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiserboy View Post
    I am doing the 100. This will be my first full century. I am looking forward to it since I will not have to drive too far to get there.
    Excellent! This is going to be a good ride. When is everyone starting? I am really hoping to get there and get started no later than 6:30 to avoid the unmistakable heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1jacktripper View Post
    Excellent! This is going to be a good ride. When is everyone starting? I am really hoping to get there and get started no later than 6:30 to avoid the unmistakable heat.
    I'll be there around 6:30 and starting no later than 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhendricks View Post
    I'll be there around 6:30 and starting no later than 7.
    Me, too.

    I haven't decided which ride to do yet, though.
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    I will start no later than 7:00 am as well, maybe 6:30 am.

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    My wife and I set off at 6:35 and rode at a good pace with a couple on a Tandem from San Diego until the first rest stop where we didnt stop and they did. We later learned that the Tandem Couple had a nasty accident with a deer and had to be sagged out. They both looked pretty beaten up when I saw them at the finish and their tandem took a beating too.

    I left the missus just after Frank Raines Park and rode pretty hard all the way to the top of Hamilton. I was feeling pretty good but as the ride progressed I could feel my recent doubles in my legs. The way back was significantly warmer and the wind was starting to get up. By the time I got to Del Peurto rest stop (Mines Junction) I was hoping for a nice easy down hill coast to the finish. Unfortunately the wind was pretty strong in your face and I found Del Peurto to be a miserable affair. It was very Windy, bumpy and hot. I started to get visions of Davis...... Fortunately it got cooler the nearer you got to Patterson, the wind changed and my spirits lifted.

    I completed the Hamilton route in about 6 hours and my wife completed the Century route (106) in about 7hours so I had extra time to stuff my face at the finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumbutter View Post
    ....We later learned that the Tandem Couple had a nasty accident with a deer and had to be sagged out.
    I just missed that deer, myself. I yelled her off the road as I manuvered around, but she must have wandered back on after I went through. I was doing about 30mph and when I went around a corner, there she was.

    I understand he broke his wrist?
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    Grrrrgh....

    My step-son, the teenage rebel-in-training, was grounded on Friday night, effective at 2:48 am, after much drama. Needless to say, I didn't hit the sack until 3:45, and could not make the ride.

    Sorry about the lameness.

    Any pictures to share, anyone? Please let me know what else I missed, other than the deer!

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    See my "ride report" thread.
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