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    Not as safe as I thought...

    I was riding southbound on San Tomas Expressway around 6PM when I got to the Winchester off ramp and found it was coned off and flares were set. I rode up to the cones but couldn't see anything going on, so I went down the ramp a ways. Just past the turn I saw a car stopped, a cyclist standing alongside the ramp, and a CHP officer. Once the officer saw me he signaled me over to him and asked for my driver’s license. The other cyclist told me we were being cited for crossing through the cones.
    Hard to argue that one; there I was, standing on the wrong side of the cones.
    The CHP Officer asked, "Did you see the cones?!"
    "Well, yeah," I replied, "kinda hard to miss 'em. Especially with those flares going." I was totally on the admit side of this.
    I then asked the officer, "What was I supposed to do when the last safe off ramp on the road is closed?" He told me I had 3 choices; to ride the wrong way on San Tomas Expressway back to Budd Avenue, to continue on over the Camden overpass, or to sit by the cones and wait for the off ramp to open again.
    Well, I had run the first two options through my mind before I even crossed the cones and ruled them out as suicidal. The 3rd never occurred to me since there was no one in sight at the cones!
    The officer then proceeded to tell me, and the growing group of cyclists with me, how he thought we were crazy to be riding on this road in the first place and that I shouldn't complain about riding the wrong way on San Tomas Expressway, since I chose to bring a bike out there in the first place.
    "You should see the things I see on this job," the officer continued, "then you'd think twice about riding out here. Most of the bike accidents happen because cyclists aren’t following the rules of the road. Cars don't care what happens to you guys. Just look at what happened on Stevens Creek Canyon last year." This seemed a poor example to me, especially when used by a law enforcement professional.
    I asked the officer, "What lesson were we supposed to take away from that one? The cyclists were obeying the law, as far as we know." I realized that right then (or possibly earlier) was a good time to stop talking.

    This encounter shook me up a bit. I had always pictured myself as a law-abiding cyclist and here was clear evidence that I was not as pure as I thought. What I did (going down the ramp) made total sense to me, given my other choices. In addition, I had always thought that the CHP was on my side or at the very least, neutral; here was an officer blaming “most” bike accidents on the cyclists. I really did not enjoy the rest of the ride home.
    I still had my bad commute in the back of my mind as I read the San Jose Mercury News before setting out the next morning (Friday, August 7) and there was a report of a 32-year-old cyclist being tasered near the intersection of San Tomas and Budd Ave. in Campbell. The brief report said someone in a Chrysler 300 pulled up next to the cyclist and zapped him. I shouldn’t have read the paper before riding off to work.

    So what’s the point of all this? Just to remind everyone on two wheels to be careful and stay alert. I’m looking around a little more than I was before.

    (Postscript: The CHP let us off with warning...)
    Last edited by TeeMac; 08-10-09 at 04:14 PM.

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    I used to take San Tomas up and over Winchester there, go under Hwy 17, and then turn right on White Oaks as part of my commute. I wouldn't consider it suicidal, you just have to be aware of traffic in all directions (a mirror helps).

    That said, it sounds like this officer sure had something against cyclists. I would think cutting through the cones might warrant a warning but not a citation.

    As for the safety of riding along the expressways in general, I'd say those are much safer than many surface streets since you have a mostly uninterrupted bike lane and no parking lots or driveways to contend with cars cutting across your path.

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    I once came upon an accident scene that had a police road block set up. I surveyed the situation and decided that the block only applied to cars because it had to do with loading a stretcher into an ambulance so I carefully proceeded through. Then on the other side a cop stopped me (and the next 2 cyclists who did the same thing) and gave us a verbal warning about doing that - he said it would have been OK if we cleared it with the cop on the first side (who was busy helping).

    Point is, cops take those road blocks seriously. You can decide for yourself about what roads are too dangerous under any conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
    I once came upon an accident scene that had a police road block set up. I surveyed the situation and decided that the block only applied to cars because it had to do with loading a stretcher into an ambulance so I carefully proceeded through. Then on the other side a cop stopped me (and the next 2 cyclists who did the same thing) and gave us a verbal warning about doing that - he said it would have been OK if we cleared it with the cop on the first side (who was busy helping).

    Point is, cops take those road blocks seriously. You can decide for yourself about what roads are too dangerous under any conditions.
    Yeah, I got waved through a CRAZY wreck on pagemill when I was climbing it on a bike. I was going through on my own when a cop looked at me, so I asked if it was OK...

    But to OP, seriously, he brought up Steven's Canyon!? WTF, I guess it cyclists job to keep drivers AWAKE now too?

    He probably see's a lot of car-car accidents as well. I wonder if he recommends not driving at all?

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    I've had to setup road closures for tree work. It is very frustrating when people ignore them. If they can fit between the cones, they will. A lot of times what is going on in the closed area is not obvious.

    I've barely missed dropping limbs, (or whole trees) on many pedestrians and bikes that just cruised on through the area. They always say' "but it looked safe to me".
    Some of my most painful moments started with the phrase, "hold my beer".

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    That's bull ***** that they left you with the option of riding unsafely and breaking the law (riding against traffic), or waiting for who knows how long for the ramp to open. I'd fight that one.
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    I prob. wouldn't have stopped.

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