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Old 12-22-09, 10:45 PM   #1
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3-5 mile Flat Course, No Stops for Fit Test? (Near Roseville)

Any ideas on where I can do one of the time trial fitness tests for CTS or Friel. Course needs to be a minimum of 3 miles, flat with no stops. There sections of the ARBT that I could use as last resort, but would prefer to find a nice stretch of road with light traffic if possible.

Don't mind packing the bike in the car for a little drive if necessary.

thanks!
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Old 12-23-09, 10:10 AM   #2
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Part of the loop I ride, out around the airport would be perfect. It's flat for 20 miles Well, there's that one gnarly climb over the overpass and the other on to the levee. Solid cat 1 climbs

You could take 80 from Roseville out to 5 N, then get off at Del Paso. Left over the freeway and park in the Walgreens parking lot. Ride north on El Centro. It's a couple of miles of flat, with a few turns that will bring you to a stop sign at Powerline Rd. Go right on Powerline over I5 and out to El Verta Road. That should give you three miles and the pavement is pretty smooth. Weekend mornings are perfect as there's minimal traffic out there. You could also just ride Garden Highway between El Verta and Power Line Rd. but the pavement kind of sucks up there - it transitions from nice to crappy to really crappy to OK and then back a couple times.

If you want to complete the loop, make a left on Elverta, then a left again on Garden Highway. Garden Highway is nice as you ride along the river, check out some nice homes, etc. Once you get to San Juan go left, then left again on El Centro back to your car.
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Old 12-23-09, 11:01 AM   #3
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Go west on Baseline. Turn north at Brewer Rd. It's almost pancake flat, with almost no traffic. Road surface isn't the best though. It's almost exactly 5.0 miles from Base Line to Sunset blvd - the first stop sign.
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I use Auburn/Folsom heading towards Auburn for my tests. It is a perfect 45 min. warm-up from Roseville to the Douglas and Auburn/Folsom intersection.
It is a nice gradual 2-2.5% grade to the climb. It is perfect for a 20 min FTP test. I find the steady, but slight incline forces me to push harder than pancake flat.
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone . Of the two flat options, the airport option looks pretty good. (Brewer is closer, but I can't bring myself to ride on baseline road scorpio516!).

mcarr, I ride Auburn/Folsom pretty frequently out of granite bay heading up to Auburn & the confluence, even going there today. I've used it in the past for personal benchmarking, but wasn't sure I could make it work for the Friel test because some of the declines. I'll have to think about it again as I ride today.
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Folsom South Canal? Paved, no traffic.
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Old 12-23-09, 09:38 PM   #7
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Yeah, I hear you on the declines. However, there is only one real decline just after you get started. After that it is almost a steady 2-3% all the way. I have found that I can push myself a bit harder with a little incline, but I'm not a TT guy at all.
If you are using a power meter you could use the normalized power for that route.

We hit up a nice 72 mile route which included Auburn and the confluence today. Actually rode about 15 miles with the Efemkin brothers from the AG-2R team! That was kinda cool.
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Very cool! I was going to hit the confluence as well today, but my riding partner wasn't quite ready for Old Foresthill road, so we went out to Ridge Road instead after riding up to Indian Hill road.

I did notice there is just that one decline. I don't have a power meter (yet ? ), so I was looking at rechecking my LT which I think I can do on AF. For the Friel speed test, I think i need flat land.
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(Brewer is closer, but I can't bring myself to ride on baseline road scorpio516!).
It is fairly harry. But I think Roseville Pkwy is worse and I commute it every day

But, you could go the other way - Fiddyment to Sunset to Brewer. It's 5.5 ish miles from Fiddyment to Brewer, but there are a couple 1% hills (30' climbing, 80' decending)
It's also 5.5ish miles from Blue Oaks to Moore on Fiddyment, but I've never been on it north of Sunset AND it goes right by the casino... Its a little hillier too, but the whole casino thing is a killer to me.
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Very cool! I was going to hit the confluence as well today, but my riding partner wasn't quite ready for Old Foresthill road, so we went out to Ridge Road instead after riding up to Indian Hill road.

I did notice there is just that one decline. I don't have a power meter (yet ? ), so I was looking at rechecking my LT which I think I can do on AF. For the Friel speed test, I think i need flat land.
Yeah, I still need to work on climbing big hills . . . was still a great ride though! Indian Hill is so scenic... er rather... at least you can take in the scenery when going downhill
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Yeah, I still need to work on climbing big hills . . . was still a great ride though! Indian Hill is so scenic... er rather... at least you can take in the scenery when going downhill
Good riding with you today. You finished strong, and we ended up with the same total elevation gain as if we had gone down to the confluence. I pretty sure you would have been fine going up Old Foresthill road.
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It is fairly harry. But I think Roseville Pkwy is worse and I commute it every day

But, you could go the other way - Fiddyment to Sunset to Brewer. It's 5.5 ish miles from Fiddyment to Brewer, but there are a couple 1% hills (30' climbing, 80' decending)
It's also 5.5ish miles from Blue Oaks to Moore on Fiddyment, but I've never been on it north of Sunset AND it goes right by the casino... Its a little hillier too, but the whole casino thing is a killer to me.
I like the reverse idea, I'll have to scout it out. I water ski out at Baseline & Locust, so I drive baseline 3x a week roughly Mar-Oct and have seen some really scary situations....probably not as bad as dodging the folks while commuting on Roseville Parkway though. One of my friends commutes from HP to Auburn and he says the same thing about some of the other heavily travelled roads out that way.

I've been out to the dump from Sunset, so I think you're right that it's not a great route out that way, especially during weekdays when I'd be trying to hit it.
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Hi GB-

I live in your neck of the woods (Blue Oaks/Woodcreek Oaks). The closest local section of straight flat road w/o stops for 3-4 miles is to start at Fiddyment and go north until you hit Athens. You can also continue north on Fiddyment for 2ish more miles. Traffic is not that bad but it is a two lane road w/o a bike lane. YMMV.

Another option would be to go 193 just past Sun City Lincoln and head East. It is about 3+ miles until a stop at Sierra College. You can also continue past Sierra College and then go North on Fowler. Once on Fowler, you can take Virginiatown road west which takes you back to the middle/north middle of Lincoln. There are no stops for the 3-5 miles you're looking for. There are a few minor little bumps in the road and the occasional dog, but it should be a good section as well. Check out google maps for some ideas. PM me as needed.

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Old 12-28-09, 07:02 PM   #14
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Hey All who live in Roseville, anybody up for a ride on Tues or Wed AM?

PM me if your're interested.

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I had the opportunity today to drive on Sunset West from Fiddyment all the way to 99 today. There is a 5 mile section of road that looks to be in good condition. There is not much of a shoulder (if any) and I don't know what the traffic is like on an evening or a Saturday. The road is not totally flat but I wouldn't say that is is hilly either. The 1st mile or so heading west was very good pavement with a double yellow line, the rest was good with a bit of fair pavement with some dashed and some double yellow line.

Anybody have intel on how busy this road can get? Is there enough interest in having an recurring TT series up this way in the spring/summer somewhat like the bicycle chef and south canal series?

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I forgot to update this thread based on my ride. I went out there a 1.5 weeks ago, parked near the Subway on Blue Oaks. Used the ride from Blue Oaks, Fiddyment and then to Sunset West Blvd as a warmup.

Sunset Blvd was my speed test. Flatter than anything close to me - just some slight bumps, light wind and very few cars. Road out 3.1 miles, turned around and came back. This section of the road is in pretty good condition and worked pretty well for my purposes (150 ft total ascent).

Maybe 6 cars passed me, but never had to deal with cars in each direction at the same time, so there's plenty of room. I doubt it gets much traffic.

After my speed test, I road up to Athens on Fiddyment. The road is in better condition, but lots of big trucks going to/coming from the dump on a Monday morning. Maybe Sunday's are quiet.

I then went back up to Sunset Blvd, out to Brewer and a few miles on Brewer before I turned around and went back to the car. Brewer has seen better days from a road perspective.
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