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Old 02-08-10, 12:09 PM   #1
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What horn diarrhea means

This morning, I was on my regular commute, on a narrow, downhill section in the middle of the lane, when a car behind starts blasting its horn. I ignored it. At the start of the section, there is a sign showing a bicycle in the middle of the lane that says "BICYCLES SHARE LANE", so it wasn't like I was doing anything wrong. The car started really having horn diarrhea, so I sat up, started braking (as the last time I looked back due to a car horn, the car ahead of me stopped while I was looking backwards), and looked back to see what the motorist wanted to communicate. Instead, the white Prius went into the oncoming lane despite uphill traffic, and went around me. I caught up a stop light, and the young man in the Prius rolled down his passenger side window, gave me the finger, and said, "<something> go f uck yourself." So that's what he wanted to communicate. I resisted the urge to return the finger.
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Old 02-08-10, 12:34 PM   #2
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Nice restraint Peter. That's really annoying.
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It's amazing how much easier it becomes to ignore a car horn when it's used so constantly.
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Sounds like a typical Prius driver. They seem to be keen taking the title away from BMW (or Audi, depending on your area) of car most driven by complete ******bags.
I had Prius tailgating me all the way down Pagemill yesteday. Seriously, I am not going to ride in the ditch at 30mph + because you want to get to 280 a few seconds faster. Idiots.
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Hmmmm, all these incident involving Prius tailgating. Problem with floor mat or gas pedal?

I would had ask that driver "Are you in a rush to get in line for your recall?"
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My own Page Mill encounters 2/7/10

I think the biggest constant to sociopathic driving is young men.

Usually I ride down Page Mill encountering few, if any, cars, which is why I like it. Yesterday, a Dodge Caliber got on my tail at the vista points and was apparently desperate to pass me. I thought whoa, and waved him by, and he passes with tires screeching, sliding around turns--this dude was barely in control. I drove this car as a rental in Hawaii and it’s basically a pile—and I can’t fathom what could possess someone to drive it like that.

Then not five minutes later, I turn on Altamont Road and I’m doing a short climb past the horse yard when my ears detect screeching tires and the sound of a out of control vehicle. It put my foot down and watch in amazement as a jeep enters Altamont from Almaden Court Road (this is about 100 yards from the four way stop sign) on two wheels and almost rolls over about 25 yards in front of me. I stare at the driver, who has briefly stopped, he appears to be about 20 and he rams it into gear and leaves equally out of control.

Lucky me that I wasn’t five seconds faster.

I think some people are really pent up and see the car ads on football games glorifying speed and think they’re being “manly” by being reckless. They don’t realize or care how pathetic they really look.
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Really, why do cyclists then go "so i pulled up to his window"

sorry to be a skeptic but 99% of the time things just get worse from that sentence on.
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Really, why do cyclists then go "so i pulled up to his window"

sorry to be a skeptic but 99% of the time things just get worse from that sentence on.
I didn't pull up to his window. I arrived at the stoplight without making any special effort to catch up to him, and there he was. I didn't make any special effort to avoid him, if that's what you're advocating.

Ironically, this is the cover story on one of the local weekly papers this week.
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Ironic, because Prius drivers almost never pull over in the twisties when there is a (considerably) faster vehicle behind them.
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Sounds like a typical Prius driver. They seem to be keen taking the title away from BMW (or Audi, depending on your area) of car most driven by complete ******bags.
I had Prius tailgating me all the way down Pagemill yesteday. Seriously, I am not going to ride in the ditch at 30mph + because you want to get to 280 a few seconds faster. Idiots.
+1. Never have I seen more instances of failure to yield, dangerous and illegal passes and general highway ******-baggery than with drivers of hybrids, especially Prii. It's amazing, the degree of entitlement a hybrid vehicle affords you. I'm not saying they're all the way, maybe more like 90-95% of them.

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Usually I ride down Page Mill encountering few, if any, cars, which is why I like it. Yesterday, a Dodge Caliber got on my tail at the vista points and was apparently desperate to pass me. I thought whoa, and waved him by, and he passes with tires screeching, sliding around turns--this dude was barely in control. I drove this car as a rental in Hawaii and it’s basically a pile—and I can’t fathom what could possess someone to drive it like that.
It's probably because the car is a pile (and/or Mommy and Daddy bought it for him) that he drives it that way. I have a Mustang GT that I treat like a newborn baby because I care a lot about that car and paid a lot of money for it and I know that I can wrap it around a telephone pole without hardly trying if I'm not careful.
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I think the biggest constant to sociopathic driving is young men.

Usually I ride down Page Mill encountering few, if any, cars, which is why I like it. Yesterday, a Dodge Caliber got on my tail at the vista points and was apparently desperate to pass me. I thought whoa, and waved him by, and he passes with tires screeching, sliding around turns--this dude was barely in control. I drove this car as a rental in Hawaii and it’s basically a pile—and I can’t fathom what could possess someone to drive it like that.
You were on a bike, some people just can't handle being behind a cyclist or them following them. I go down 84 regularly there were more then few instances of people driving like maniacs just to stay ahead of me, either after passing me (usually very dangerously), or when I caught up to them.
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Posted by "fawkopek" on some Prius forum yesterday AM:
"This morning, I was on my regular commute, on a narrow, downhill section in the middle of the lane, when I came upon a roadie bike idiot taking up the whole lane and slowing up everyone on the commute. At first I'm patient but then I let him know we're waiting with a little horn action...nothing heavy mind you. He's ignoring me and going on his merry way. We hit a section with a sign showing a bicycle in the middle of the lane that says "BICYCLES SHARE LANE", but apparently he thinks this means "BICYCLES OWN THE ROAD" as he's now all over our commute lane. I give him some more horn and he decides to slow down and annoy everyone on the commute even more. I finally hit a passing point and went around the rider thinking that was it for him but a few minutes later at a stop light he apparently decided he would find his gas pedals, stop impeding traffic and try to catch me. He rolled up along side of me like he was going to do something in his rubber costume. LOL. I rolled down my his passenger side window, gave him the finger and told him what I thought of his road owning antics. I'm really not sure what these guys expect by impeding rush hour traffic with no regard for others."















































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you should have asked the driver if he minded you splashing his windscreen.
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Posted by "fawkopek" on some Prius forum yesterday AM:
" He rolled up along side of me like he was going to do something in his rubber costume."
ROFL! We laugh, but you know it's true. I have no doubt that somewhere (probably the comments section of some article about a cyclist getting hit & run on sfgate.com) he's posting something very much like this.
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First off you did the right thing: taking the lane, not saying anything back. I'm just confident that stupid people like him will be much more likely to remove themselves from the gene pool, hopefully without taking others in their stupidity.
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This has started happening to me almost every time I go out on the roads east of Sacramento. It is a real shame, because there are some glorious hills in El Dorado and Placer counties. However, I've recently decided it is not worth the risk of an accident that it causes, or the way it gets my blood up, so I have been sticking to the ARBT for the past few months. I have two young kids, so I'm not going to risk my life for some redneck. Mostly, for some reason, it seems to be men in smallish, beaten up saloon and compact cars - Honda Civics, Toyotas, etc. Not often larger pickups or SUVs. They pull up close behind for a few hundred yards, then accelerate past at great speed, leaning on the horn and pulling the finger out of the window. Same routine every time.

Incidentally, I have ridden the wonderful roads in the North Bay several times with busy traffic and NOT ONCE did I get a horn blasted at me. This includes riding narrow sections of Rt 1 on the coast, with a back-up of RVs and pickups. They just wait patiently, then when I can give over to the shoulder, I let them pass and they wave or toot happily at me.

So, why are there so many stunted morons driving the hill-country east of Sacramento?
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Wait... I'm a Prius driver!

Hope you don't all judge me negatively based on that fact. There are so many other glorious reasons.
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So, why are there so many stunted morons driving the hill-country east of Sacramento?
That question answers itself.

Really though, is a MUP safer than a road, ever, really?
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That question answers itself.

Really though, is a MUP safer than a road, ever, really?
Fair point, and I have talked to many cyclists who hate the ARBT because they have to share it with walkers and joggers.

In fact, many cyclists on the ARBT will yell at walkers as they pass by, if they happen to be on the wrong side of the trail and the cyclist has to slow down.

LOL. The irony.
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Mostly, for some reason, it seems to be men in smallish, beaten up saloon and compact cars - Honda Civics, Toyotas, etc. Not often larger pickups or SUVs.
Maybe they're trying to compensate?

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Fair point, and I have talked to many cyclists who hate the ARBT because they have to share it with walkers and joggers.

In fact, many cyclists on the ARBT will yell at walkers as they pass by, if they happen to be on the wrong side of the trail and the cyclist has to slow down.

LOL. The irony.
Regardless of the situation, it all boils down to selfishness. "My journey is more important than yours, you're slowing me down!" Sometimes people on MUPs are so busy trying to do their "spintervals" or whatever that they forget that their are other people trying to enjoy the same path.
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+1. Never have I seen more instances of failure to yield, dangerous and illegal passes and general highway ******-baggery than with drivers of hybrids, especially Prii. It's amazing, the degree of entitlement a hybrid vehicle affords you. I'm not saying they're all the way, maybe more like 90-95% of them.
Seriously. freaking 90% of hybrid drivers think that they are extra special because they are driving a "green" car..
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Seriously. freaking 90% of hybrid drivers think that they are extra special because they are driving a "green" car..
I drive a Prius; I'm sorry that 90% of us have offended you. Was this statistic validated somewhere?
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Seriously. freaking 90% of hybrid drivers think that they are extra special because they are driving a "green" car..
No, it isn't their fault.. they're honking because the car has no brakes!! lookout!!
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