Are Bikes are considered pedestrains while on sidewalks?
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I think if a cyclist is riding on a sidewalk, they're begging to get hit. Old or young. Left side or right side. When crossing in a crosswalk, if they're not walking they're begging to get hit. It's unfair to drivers to accommodate such foolish behavior when they're on a highly controlled ramp leading to an acceleration lane, and watching for the cars and trucks at speed to merge safely. One child getting hurt doesn't mean a law must be passed or someone else is at fault.
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I think if a cyclist is riding on a sidewalk, they're begging to get hit. Old or young. Left side or right side. When crossing in a crosswalk, if they're not walking they're begging to get hit. It's unfair to drivers to accommodate such foolish behavior when they're on a highly controlled ramp leading to an acceleration lane, and watching for the cars and trucks at speed to merge safely. One child getting hurt doesn't mean a law must be passed or someone else is at fault.
I agree sidewalk riding in many (most) situations is much more dangerous. But there are many cases where the rider cannot safely ride in aggressive fast bumper to bumper traffic, and sometimes would be tickets by police at least. Certainly no preteen or tot would ride the traffic lane over the Key Bridge Over the Potomac in DC going to Georgetown where a very wide sidewalk is a bike lane, this appears to the the example or a cross walk crossing in the League of American Bicyclist's instruction on how to drive your bike. Yes there are cases that bikers have to use sidewalks and crosswalks. That is also the case at class III trail crossings.
In California, a pedestrian has the right-away in the crosswalk. A child, 6 year old riding with their parent jogging, has to yield to all traffic, but the same traffic has to yield to their parents. Its a big deal, as aggressive drivers can get off scott free if the clip, or kill a cyclist but not a pedestrain. I know of couple cases now in the south bay, and friends tell me of similar issues in SF. A multi Million dollar bridge had to build over Moffett Blvd for Stevens Creek Trail largely because of this lmit of the law.
The California law should be changes as in the more progressive states, if you are riding (slowly approaching the intersection) and cross like a pedistrain, even mounted on your bike in the crosswalk you have the same rights and duties as a pedestrian.
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1 - Walk the bike on the sidewalk. This is also very, very clearly the correct way to use crosswalks when on a bike. Riding moves you too quickly, in an area where drivers expect slower moving pedestrians, and invites accidents.
2 - Take an alternate route, which is not unsafe for riding.
The fact that a particular area is unsafe for riding in the mind of the cyclist does not remove their obligation to follow the law and share the road. Their convenience does not trump that of others. Ride in the street, go another way, or walk the bike. That is it, and that is all there is to it.
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In California, bicycles are defined as vehicles and explicitly excluded from the definition of pedestrians. And operating a vehicle on a sidewalk is a big no-no, except to cross it to enter a driveway or alley. I always thought there was an exception for kids, and for adults riding with kids, but can't find a reference for that. In any case, unless there's a sign explicitly permitting bikes on a sidewalk, it is generally prohibited in California (municipalities can enact their own code for this). In fact the drivers handbook states that bicyclists must ride as close to the right hand side of the road as possible, but not on the sidewalk.
JB
PS - the prohibition of bikes on sidewalks must be one of the most widely unenforced sections of the vehicle code out there!
JB
PS - the prohibition of bikes on sidewalks must be one of the most widely unenforced sections of the vehicle code out there!
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Where have I heard that misplaced logic before?..... Hmm, OH that is exactly what those that drive cars that do not want bicyclists on the road say, bikes cannot keep up with traffic, etc as above, bikers should stay off the roads. ;-)
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Yes, exactly, and those motorists are equally wrong when they say that. Cyclists belong on the road, unless there is a specific prohibition (e.g. minimum speed freeways). Drivers who complain at them and expect them to get off the road and onto the sidewalk are flat out wrong.