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    THE 2010 Bike Forums Jersey order thread

    ORDERS CLOSED
    Order sent in. Let the waiting begin.

    Payments so far: Check back to make sure I recorded your order correctly.



    Jersey (same look for long sleeve, sleeveless, jacket and vest)


    Shorts (also as bibs)


    Long sleeve look for jerseys and jackets
    Shorts (also as bibs)


    Please read all this first:

    * Please oh please read and follow the order directions with care.
    * I will update (edit) this post with a table of order info to confirm your order.
    *Please check back a few days after you order and make sure it's right
    For "big news" I'll add a new post in the thread that references this one.
    * The jersey is the jersey, I can't make any changes, no matter how small, without starting the whole process over again with new minimum orders and everything.
    * Check the sizing chart below. Don't even think about the race fit jersey unless you are almost a pro and rail thin. Just don't.
    * This process takes longer than you think, waiting for orders, having them made, getting them shipped. Don't expect this to be like a real store. Like over 6 weeks after I order to get them to send out.
    * Posting here is fine, but your actual order is the Paypay message (and money) I get.
    * On the plus side, I've done this five times (or is it six?) for the 50+ forum and haven't run off with the cash yet. Your jersey will arrive someday. Really.
    * I'm a teacher and an artist and not a businessman. I'm doing this just because it's fun and neat.
    * Orders close on April 30 Don't send money after that!
    * Outside the USA? Message or email me and we'll work out postage. It will be more. I got actually lost money on a couple of non-USA orders from the 50+ forum.

    What you can get, and how much it costs:

    Jerseys are available in womens, mens or race cut, shorts/bibs in mens or womens.
    Short Sleeve Jersey $60
    Sleeveless Jersey $60
    Long Sleeve Jersey $67
    Wind Vest $58
    Wind Jacket $65
    Shorts $67
    Bib Shorts $75
    Short Sleeve Summer Jersey $70
    I bought one of these to test it and like it a lot when it's really hot.
    The manufacturer says the colors aren't as dark, but I can hardly tell the difference. It is slightly less opaque.

    Summer shorts, (side material made with summer magic fiber) $79
    Summer bibs, (side material made with summer magic fiber) $87

    Prices reflect paypal fees, postage from the company and postage to you, plus a bit for tape and labels and such.


    Prices include shipping to USA

    Sizes available:
    xs, s, m, l, xl, 2xl, 3xl, 4xl

    All with have full length zippers !!!!

    How to order:

    Use PayPal. It's the only way I can do this and live through it. Paypal accounts are free to send money with. Get one. http://www.paypal.com
    Send money to: curtis@corlew.com (but the ordering is closed now)

    Paypal me the correct amount of money,
    Include in the comment/message area this info, in this order!

    NorCal order (you must include this line as I'm doing this for another forum too)
    Real Name
    Street Address
    City
    state
    Zip

    Bike Forum name
    Item ordered (vest, short sleeve jersey, long sleeve etc)
    Cut (mens club, mens race, womens) See note above about race cut.
    If shorts, performance or endurance pad (see post below)
    Size (xl, sm, etc)


    Sizing info:


    Fine print:
    This is a not-for-profit effort. One of my personal goals is to not end up being out of pocket in doing this.
    Because of that, I have no room for error. I can't make refunds or changes to completed orders. I can't change sizes after I place the order.
    This entire process will take a while. I've put a four week deadline for payment, and the company takes a about 6 weeks to make them.
    Prices reflect paypal fees, postage from the company and postage to you, plus a bit for tape and labels and such.
    Last edited by cccorlew; 05-04-10 at 10:34 AM.
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    Did champion system quality improved? The last time we did it, their bibs were pretty bad. The padding was a but sore generator, and the bibs were very very short.
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    The design looks great! I'm in! But there seems to be a lack of posts. Are we meeting the minimum still, or did some people bum out on us?
    Last edited by DRietz; 03-31-10 at 11:48 PM.

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    They claim a better pad. I usually wear medium and bought medium from them. They were a tad short, and the traps were tight. I lengthened teh straps and they were OK. I also have a pair of large from them that fit me better. They are my only large bibs.
    That said, Taxi777 did the davis double in his, and I've seen other forum members do long rides in them.
    I'll phone and ask if they've changed anything in the last year.
    The jerseys however seem to run to size, and are comfortable. I am very pleased with my summer weight magic fiber jersey.

    Their web site has this info on pads. I'll add a note to make a choice in listing.

    CS Performance Pad

    The pad that has been worn to victories in races around the world, the CS Performance SCT (Seamless Comfort Technology) Pad is a revolutionary, 100%-seamless, multi-density, Italian 4-Way Pad. What truly sets our new pad apart is that it's a stretch pad. That's right — an elastic chamois. Why is this important? As you ride and your legs go round and round, you need a pad that moves and conforms. Traditional pads stay in one place. Ours doesn't. The first time you ride in our stretch 4-Way Pad — you will immediately feel the difference!
    Our 4-Way Pad is BIOAKTIV. Unlike other pads that are labeled as "antibacterial," our pad uses no chemical substance on the fabric, and no chemical substance is near your skin. BIOAKTIV prevents the formation of bacteria, thanks to silver ions in the yarn. Unlike a chemical substance on the fabric, this is permanent; it does not disappear after washing!
    Men's Chamois:


    Women's Chamois:




    CS Endurance Pad - NEW!

    New for 2010! Designed for long-distance racing and training, the CS Endurance Pad features increased padding in the most critical areas to provide hours of comfort. Our exclusive Seamless Comfort Technology (SCT) ensures the pad will conform to your body by eliminating all seams while still offering maximum breathability. Available for men and women. Made in Italy.


    Which Pad is Right for Me?



    Choosing a chamois is a personal choice and we want to emphasize that neither the CS Performance or CS Endurance pad is “better” than the other. We offer only the finest Italian pads so both models are of the highest quality. If you prefer a closer feel to the saddle then perhaps the CS Performance pad will be more to your liking. If you prefer a chamois with enhanced padding then the CS Endurance pad might be your choice. If you are still not sure please speak to one of our Customer Service Representatives who will be more than happy to explain the features of each pad.
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    Is there a difference between race cut small and club cut extra small? I ordered a race cut small from the checkered design and while it technically fits, it's a tad snug in weird places (like the neck). I generally wear jerseys in the 37"-38" chest range so I'm afraid of ordering a club cut small and have it be too baggy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiz702 View Post
    Is there a difference between race cut small and club cut extra small? I ordered a race cut small from the checkered design and while it technically fits, it's a tad snug in weird places (like the neck). I generally wear jerseys in the 37"-38" chest range so I'm afraid of ordering a club cut small and have it be too baggy.
    I can tell you that when i was doing the 50+ order I tried on a large race cut. It was tight, and long. The medium was the right snugness and length. From this I think race means pick your height, and if you are rail thin and want a tight fit for your rail thin body get the race cut. The rest of us get regular.
    Last edited by cccorlew; 03-31-10 at 11:50 PM.
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    I have both a Race and a Club jerseys of the same size (XL).
    The race cut is tight and short. I like the width but not the length. It requires a bib as your back is exposed if you wear shorts.
    The club cut is very similar to other brands, may be a bit longer.
    On this order I will choose a Club Large.

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    Just sent paypal, to you, Curtis.

    Thank you for taking the time to manage all this.

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    OK - Ordered. Jersey, vest, bibs. Thanks, Curtis!

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    Are you allowing orders of solid color items like plain black or white arm and knee warmers? You should be able to order singles of those once the minimum jersey order is met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlastRadius View Post
    Are you allowing orders of solid color items like plain black or white arm and knee warmers? You should be able to order singles of those once the minimum jersey order is met.
    I hadn't thought to ask about solid color warmers. Let me check.
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    One more size question by for I paypal my order - turns out I do own a Champsys SS jersey in M/club cut in my wardrobe, I like the dimensions across the shoulders but find it a little too long + somewhat baggy in the midriff for my tastes. I'm wondering if I should go for L race cut (same chest spec) or chance an M (supposedly 2" shorter chest, but closer to my real chest measurement)?

    FWIW I normally go for M race cut in Voler, and have a bit of room to spare around the waist, but it seems as though champ sys cut their jerseys on the small size. Any thoughts?

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    So, in sizing a jacket, Champ Sys says to use race cut sizings. I'm calling their U.S. headquarters tomorrow, but is that actually what they mean, or am I misreading it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRietz View Post
    So, in sizing a jacket, Champ Sys says to use race cut sizings. I'm calling their U.S. headquarters tomorrow, but is that actually what they mean, or am I misreading it?
    Call and report. But I have their jersey, vest and jacket in medium. The vest fits snugly over the jersey, just like I think it should. The jacket seems roomy to me.
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    The two ChampSys jerseys I have are X-Large, one race cut, the other club cut.
    The club cut is only 1/2" wider but 3.5" longer in the front and 2" longer in the back.

    The CS XL club cut is about the same size as a Voler XL, just 1" longer in the front.
    The CS XL race cut is about the same width as a Voler Large but 1.5" shorter in the front.

    These are dimensions of the CS jerseys when laid flat, it might help you compare to jerseys you own:
    XL Race: 21" armpit width, 21.5" front top to bottom, 28" back top to bottom.
    XL Club: 21.5" armpit width, 25" front, 30" back.

    For comparison my Voler jersey dimensions are:
    L Club: 21", 23", 28".
    XL Club: 21.5", 23.5", 30".
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    Man, that's frightening. According to the size chart, I'd be wavering between a small and an extra-small in the club cut. Of course, in those sizes, I'm guessing neither club nor race would be long enough, and the size small shorts would end up being short-shorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    Man, that's frightening. According to the size chart, I'd be wavering between a small and an extra-small in the club cut. Of course, in those sizes, I'm guessing neither club nor race would be long enough, and the size small shorts would end up being short-shorts.
    What do you normally wear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    One more size question by for I paypal my order - turns out I do own a Champsys SS jersey in M/club cut in my wardrobe, I like the dimensions across the shoulders but find it a little too long + somewhat baggy in the midriff for my tastes.
    FWIW - I chatted this over with Champ-Sys and they recommended going with M race cut, based upon my observations of the M club cut jersey I owned. YMMV.

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    Man I'm so confused on what sizes to order. I hate ordering cycling clothes online. The M bibs should work fine for me but no idea on what size jersey to order. I have a race cut small that is too snug but I like the length. So is a club cut small going to be too long? My number one pet peeve with jerseys is when the pockets sag when they're loaded up, I hate that (I'm short so it happens a lot). So maybe race cut M? club cut XS? lol ugh... decisions decisions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiz702 View Post
    Man I'm so confused on what sizes to order. I hate ordering cycling clothes online. The M bibs should work fine for me but no idea on what size jersey to order. I have a race cut small that is too snug but I like the length. So is a club cut small going to be too long? My number one pet peeve with jerseys is when the pockets sag when they're loaded up, I hate that (I'm short so it happens a lot). So maybe race cut M? club cut XS? lol ugh... decisions decisions...
    How snug is snug? I would suggest staying with a small race cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaker View Post
    FWIW - I chatted this over with Champ-Sys and they recommended going with M race cut, based upon my observations of the M club cut jersey I owned. YMMV.
    That's what I would have recommended as well.

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    I've started to post payment info. Please check yours and if in error let me know.
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    Wait, so my payment is on its way, but what happens if we don't meet the minimum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRietz View Post
    ...what happens if we don't meet the minimum?
    Oh, we will. I'm getting 1, my wife is getting 1, and I have two friends who promise to get one each, with yours that makes 7 already. We only need 10. If worse comes to worst I'll buy extras for us. But I am really not worried at all.
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    Make it 8. I'm getting a medium jersey(still not sure what cut) and a medium bib. Paypal pending 'til next week.
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