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Old 05-23-11, 09:10 AM   #1
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NorCal East, Sunday May 29 - Some Auburn Chili

Come out and over test your legs for the June 4 ride up Cantelow!

Sunday I'm planning to hit some up the Auburn area hills. Chili Hill, Baxter Grade, Ridge Rd., and Indian Hill. That's about 4000 ft. Here's the route: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/430336

Lunch will be at the spectacular Newcastle Deli after Ridge.

Got a few options for start. Rolling from Folsom Bike at 9:30 for about 57 mi. Or, if you'd like extra, rolling from my house at 8am, and should hit the Sac State Aquatic Center about 8:30.

Hope some of you will come out and join me!
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I may be in for this. I'm still trying to figure out my weekend plans.
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OK I'll meet you at Folsom Bike. This should be a good pre-Cantelow ride and I'm riding around Lake Tahoe in June so I could use some road hills (though I have been getting some nice climbing in on my single speed in Auburn ).
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Sounds good! I'm planning a cup of coffee and a 2nd breakfast when I get up there about 9. We'll head out after that.
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I have plans that day already or I'd be all over it like flies on feces. I want to take on Chili Hill (the one that psyched me out 2 yrs. ago on the tandem) and pwn it. Guess I'll try next time...
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Deb, any time you want to come out and kill it, let me know. I'll be more than happy to take you up there.
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I want to take on Chili Hill (the one that psyched me out 2 yrs. ago on the tandem) and pwn it.
I did it last month for the first time. It was fun, even though I suck at climbing due to being overweight. Here's proof:

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/81350751

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnT0vfuP3iY
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hehe this looks fun. I'm doing a big mtb ride Saturday too, guess I'll make sure to bring some serious rehydrating/recovery Sierra Nevada with me
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The Auburn Victory Velo group is planning a Ride Around the Lake ride Sunday morning. Down to Folsom and then Salmon Falls to Cool and then to American River Canyon, Foresthill Bridge and back to Auburn. I've read Joel's recounts of his 1st try at this ride and then watched Freighttraininguphill's Sufferfest video. I'm a little uneasy.
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Well, I suppose if you hit Folsom and change your mind, you could wait for us at Folsom Bike....

Good luck with it! It's a fun route. Haven't done it in a while, might be a good one for next Sunday....
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The nice thing about riding below Auburn (like this Chili Hill route) and mixing up the different roads is the ability to bail out at almost any point and mostly have a downhill exit in the Folsom/Roseville/Lincoln direction.

I live in Rocklin, so it is easy to ride the area, but I don't do it enough. Great riding in any case.

Joel, I've watched your posts and routes over the months/year. Have you ridden on Millertown (between Mt. Vernon and Wise), a slightly bumpy 1.5 car wide road in total tree cover, or the roads closer to Penryn (Rock Springs, Gilardi, Brennans)? I don't think I've seen those in any of your routes, and they're all nice rides.
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Hi Brian.....You named a lot of roads I love to ride on! Millertown is a great connector to some of the other climbs. From Nevada Street, take Mt. Vernon to Millertown and enjoy a beautiful treed downhill to Wise Road. From there you can turn right on Wise and hit Baxter Grade. My other standard ride is riding Shirland Track down and hopping on Rattlesnake to New Castle to Auburn Folsom to Rock Springs to Gilardi to New Castle and left on New Castle to Powerhouse. Powerhouse is beautiful by the way with minimal traffic. Powerhouse to Auburn Folsom, then the choice of either riding Auburn Folsom up (the big hill) or coming up Shirland Track (harder). Mark
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The Auburn Victory Velo group is planning a Ride Around the Lake ride Sunday morning. Down to Folsom and then Salmon Falls to Cool and then to American River Canyon, Foresthill Bridge and back to Auburn. I've read Joel's recounts of his 1st try at this ride and then watched Freighttraininguphill's Sufferfest video. I'm a little uneasy.
If you watched my first climb video, "The Salmon Falls Sufferfest", I was 40 pounds overweight when I made the video, so that climb was even harder then than it is now. It's still hard, but I get up it a little faster now that I'm 150 lbs instead of 166. I still want to lose at least 20 more pounds.

My Chili Hill Road climb video was made in April, so I was a bit stronger. That climb was still a hard, painful one though. Can't wait to do it again!

I have a feeling you'll do fine From what I remember from reading your previous posts, you've done some other good climbs around here.
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The nice thing about riding below Auburn (like this Chili Hill route) and mixing up the different roads is the ability to bail out at almost any point and mostly have a downhill exit in the Folsom/Roseville/Lincoln direction.

I live in Rocklin, so it is easy to ride the area, but I don't do it enough. Great riding in any case.

Joel, I've watched your posts and routes over the months/year. Have you ridden on Millertown (between Mt. Vernon and Wise), a slightly bumpy 1.5 car wide road in total tree cover, or the roads closer to Penryn (Rock Springs, Gilardi, Brennans)? I don't think I've seen those in any of your routes, and they're all nice rides.
I hit Millertown on a somewhat regular basis. It's a fun road, though a disappointingly easy climb. Rock Springs I don't hit very often, though do occasionally. Brennens is a regular, and often on the way back from Newcastle if I'm not climbing Indian to A-F to head back.

Tomorrow's ride *may* end up being a little slower than I initially posted. Mostly because some folks are coming along that haven't been riding so much recently.

I'm strongly considering the Folsom Lake Loop for next Sunday. Though I like to do a variation that drops down Millertown to Wise to head over to Newcastle Deli for lunch. Then Newcastle -> Brennans -> King -> A-F on the way back. I'll post this one up shortly.
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If you watched my first climb video, "The Salmon Falls Sufferfest", I was 40 pounds overweight when I made the video, so that climb was even harder then than it is now. It's still hard, but I get up it a little faster now that I'm 150 lbs instead of 166. I still want to lose at least 20 more pounds.

My Chili Hill Road climb video was made in April, so I was a bit stronger. That climb was still a hard, painful one though. Can't wait to do it again!

I have a feeling you'll do fine From what I remember from reading your previous posts, you've done some other good climbs around here.
LOL...I was watching your "Sufferfest" on Salmon Falls video last night and getting really nervous about tomorrow's ride! Yes, I've one a few climbs around the area, but none are real long. Last year I attempted Iowa Hill and I bonked. I was 95% of the way to the top and I died. Some day, I will try again! This time I will pay better attention to my food and water intake.
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The Auburn Victory Velo group is planning a Ride Around the Lake ride Sunday morning. Down to Folsom and then Salmon Falls to Cool and then to American River Canyon, Foresthill Bridge and back to Auburn. I've read Joel's recounts of his 1st try at this ride and then watched Freighttraininguphill's Sufferfest video. I'm a little uneasy.
Tomorrow should be a good day for it. I did this ride with Joel a few years ago (I think it was his first attempt on that ride) the hardest parts were:

Pilot Hill
Not rear ending cars on 49 from Cool -> Confluence
Old Foresthill Rd. in the heat (it was HOT that day).

Weather should be great for it tomorrow.
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LOL...I was watching your "Sufferfest" on Salmon Falls video last night and getting really nervous about tomorrow's ride! Yes, I've one a few climbs around the area, but none are real long. Last year I attempted Iowa Hill and I bonked. I was 95% of the way to the top and I died. Some day, I will try again! This time I will pay better attention to my food and water intake.
I just got back from a nice drive up 50 to the top of Ice House Road (snowing!) and back through Placerville. I told my friend who was driving about a climb I read about here, Mosquito Road. We drove out and back on it, and I feel that I would need to lose another 20 pounds before attempting that one. It reminds me of Iowa Hill Road, which I climbed back in 1997 when I weighed 140 (still too fat, but better than the 150 I'm at now).

Tomorrow's climb will be Eagle's Nest in Auburn.
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Slightly hijacking Joel's thread ... but given he should be riding right now, it shouldn't be too much of a distraction.

Back before getting married and having kids when I still rode a motorcycle, Mosquito Rd and the curvy bits of 193 between Georgetown and the river (isn't that Chili Bar, as a bit of tie-in?) was a favorite. At the time a good source of Gold Country'ish roads for bicycling was pashnit.com. Back then it was only a web page with the authors favorite (motorcycle) rides, but I looked at it a month or two ago and it's a big forum now, and still seems to be a great source for local (plus much further) road information.

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I just got back from a nice drive up 50 to the top of Ice House Road (snowing!) and back through Placerville. I told my friend who was driving about a climb I read about here, Mosquito Road. We drove out and back on it, and I feel that I would need to lose another 20 pounds before attempting that one. It reminds me of Iowa Hill Road, which I climbed back in 1997 when I weighed 140 (still too fat, but better than the 150 I'm at now).

Tomorrow's climb will be Eagle's Nest in Auburn.
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Slightly hijacking Joel's thread ... but given he should be riding right now, it shouldn't be too much of a distraction.

Back before getting married and having kids when I still rode a motorcycle, Mosquito Rd and the curvy bits of 193 between Georgetown and the river (isn't that Chili Bar, as a bit of tie-in?) was a favorite. At the time a good source of Gold Country'ish roads for bicycling was pashnit.com. Back then it was only a web page with the authors favorite (motorcycle) rides, but I looked at it a month or two ago and it's a big forum now, and still seems to be a great source for local (plus much further) road information.
I've heard of pashnit.com. That site often comes up in Google search results when I'm looking for information on local climbs.

Here's the site where I found the information on Mosquito Road. It lists plenty of good rides.
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What a fun ride! Great company, lovely roads, climbs, descents, fantastic lunch too. I got a flat in the front though on the way up Crater Hill from Chili. Stopped and patched it. Then when I went to leave the bike shop to head home, I had a flat in back. That one needed a new tube. After that, I gratefully accepted Matt's offer for a lift. The 16mi back from the shop are pretty flat.

Ended up with 74mi, 4300 ft, and a 16.6 avg. Here's the data: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88870658

Thanks for coming!
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What a fun ride! Great company, lovely roads, climbs, descents, fantastic lunch too. I got a flat in the front though on the way up Crater Hill from Chili. Stopped and patched it. Then when I went to leave the bike shop to head home, I had a flat in back. That one needed a new tube. After that, I gratefully accepted Matt's offer for a lift. The 16mi back from the shop are pretty flat.

Ended up with 74mi, 4300 ft, and a 16.6 avg. Here's the data: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88870658

Thanks for coming!
Joel, Looks like a great ride. Sorry to hear about the flats! It doesn't look like you took it very easy at all according to your Garmin. You were flying up those hills! Good speed on Ridge Road then over 12 MPH on Indian Hill at the end of all that climbing?? You stud!

Have you tried www.strava.com ? It's REALLY neat. You enter your ride info (from your Garmin) and it calculates all these segments (climbs and descents) and you can see your personal best and how your latest ride compares. Also, you can see how close you are to the King Of the Mountain' best time. You can even create your own segments. I have a code that gets you 3 months free use, then it's $5 a month for unlimited uploading and 5 uploads per month for free. My own personal KOMs are little ridden segments near my house. My son keeps searching for my KOMs and squashing them! Kids!

Our Around the Lake Ride was great! The racer-types from Victory Velo dropped us on Auburn Folsom so my son and I did the whole thing by ourselves. My son could have kept up with thise guys but it wasn't fun for me to be riding so hard. I knew there was a lot of climbing to save myself for so we let those guys go before Douglas. The Salmon Falls climbing wasn't too bad at a nice even pace. The roller coaster down the canyon on 49 was SO FUN!!!! No cars!!! Felt like I was in the Tour De France (in my mind)! The climb out of the canyon on Old Foresthill was tough, but strangely enjoyable. I even ate while riding! It just goes on and on. I though I was near the top and I passed a sign saying curvy road next 2 miles! UGH! So, the hardest part of the ride for me was the final big climb that I was taking for granted. After crossing the Foresthill Bridge, it's that big climb up to Lincoln Way. Man, that takes some strength! We really enjoyed the ride though - great scenery and the weather turned PERFECT! Thanks for the encouragement to try this one.

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PS - About 59 miles, 4600 feet
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88831527

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I just got back from a nice drive up 50 to the top of Ice House Road (snowing!) and back through Placerville. I told my friend who was driving about a climb I read about here, Mosquito Road. We drove out and back on it, and I feel that I would need to lose another 20 pounds before attempting that one. It reminds me of Iowa Hill Road, which I climbed back in 1997 when I weighed 140 (still too fat, but better than the 150 I'm at now).

Tomorrow's climb will be Eagle's Nest in Auburn.
Have fun on Eagle's Nest - can't wait for the video!
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Mark, that climb on Foresthill back up to Auburn is a beast. It always hurts, especially as there is so much climbing already in the legs. Sounds like you had a fun ride with your son. That's fantastic!

Actually, I did take it somewhat easy on the climbs. Kept my heartrate well in check and made sure not to destroy my legs. The only one I couldn't was Glenview from Newcastle up to Indian. That hill is a bear. Thankfully it's not too long.

I have played a bit with Strava, but on today's ride, I got a flat on one of the climbs, so my time was really skewed. It's a shame they don't pull that out when doing the comparisons. Also, we waited a few times on the climbs for the slower riders to catch up, and that time got added in too. So I think their algorithm could use a bit of work there.

It's an interesting site, and I like how they have categorized the climbs. Kinda cool to have that info. I never would have thought Ridge made a Cat 3, as there are only a couple of steepish sections and much of it is fairly mild. Here's a link to my Strava upload from today: http://app.strava.com/rides/643415

Thanks for the compliment too. I put in a lot of miles though, so my fitness right now is pretty good. I'm always seeking out the hills. So far, I've got 745mi on the month with just under 33,000 ft climbed. On the year, I'm at 3289 mi.
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Oh....I didn't look close enough to see you tackled Glenview at the end! I love Glenview! I suffer on it, but I love the sharp turns and challenge. Just when you think you're done and you come out of the final turn, you still have that last straight part that is just hell to finish. I always chuckle when I finally get to the part in the road that says "Stop Ahead"......not soon enough! Time seems to stop between thos words and the stop sign!

Your mileage is insane Joel! I have about 360 miles so far this month and I thought I was doing reasonable. Here's my last Strava..... http://app.strava.com/rides/642004#9550514. I still have about 10 pounds I'd LOVE to lose so I can climb better!

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Slightly hijacking Joel's thread ... but given he should be riding right now, it shouldn't be too much of a distraction.

Back before getting married and having kids when I still rode a motorcycle, Mosquito Rd and the curvy bits of 193 between Georgetown and the river (isn't that Chili Bar, as a bit of tie-in?) was a favorite. At the time a good source of Gold Country'ish roads for bicycling was pashnit.com. Back then it was only a web page with the authors favorite (motorcycle) rides, but I looked at it a month or two ago and it's a big forum now, and still seems to be a great source for local (plus much further) road information.
When I was in to cars and such I'd do drives with the Subaru club on Mosquito Ridge Rd. FUN road. Especially in the snow! Actually, I don't think I have been out there in summer
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