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Old 06-25-11, 09:33 PM   #1
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A bike designed for the triple crown ?

I had read a lot about the new Volagi Liscio and how it could be the perfect bike for double centuries. It has a carbon frame designed to smooth out road imperfections and disk brakes. I finally got to ride one today at Crank 2 and was pretty impressed.



This is the Ultegra version



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Old 06-25-11, 09:52 PM   #2
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I saw one at sea otter, it was awesome... Will likely be my next bike
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Sweet design. The seat stays/seat tube/top tube connection is interesting. Wonder if it plays a major role in the bike comfort as the vibrations coming up the stays might be absorbed by the top tube instead of the seat tube.
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Old 06-25-11, 10:31 PM   #4
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So... if say a hypothetical guy is pretty beat up after a single century... good for him too, right?

If it had DA Di2 and Garmin ultraputer and a Power Tap I'd consider it for my lottery bike.
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Disc brakes? I'd probably prefer a lighter bike with normal caliper brakes. Also the head tube seems kind of tall. And for my personal taste, I am not in love with the swooshy chain stays. The frame kind of reminds me of a mountain bike frame.
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I was talking to a framebuilder, he claimed that forks have to be overbuilt for disc brakes, which reduces their shock absorption properties.
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The frame can take caliper brakes too. I've seen this bike at DMD, BLB, and TT. It's even prettier in person. I would say that is an appropriate head tube length for the market. It is a better solution than having a short head tube and a bunch of spacers.
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Old 06-26-11, 01:15 PM   #8
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I saw a lady on one at the Terrible Two. Second half of Skaggs Springs not quite near the top in a shaded area before the sharp 90 right hand switch back. She was off the bike resting in the shade. She didn't stop at the second water stop and when I rode by on the descent I mentioned nice bike. I said Volagi with a hard G but apparently it's pronounced Volagee after she corrected me. The more upright position makes sense, it's pretty similar to most other relaxed head tube lengths. Disc brakes would have been nice on the Ft. Ross descent. I hate that section the most.
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I saw one at the Alta Alpina Challenge. I think it was the same model, unless Volagi makes a different road bike with disc brakes. I'd love to test ride one of those. I'm interested on what disc brakes would feel like on a road bike and whether it's worth the trouble. I agree that the Terrible Two would be a great test course.
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One of the founders is a Triple Crown guy, so I think it's safe to say the bike's designed with that in mind.

The frame seems pretty innovative. How long of a test ride did you go on?

Did you get the weight of the complete bike from the shop? I'm guessing that even with the disk brakes, it's probably lighter than my current bike!
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They are all pretty heavily involved in the triple crown. Susan has done many doubles and won the overall fixed-gear 508 last year. Barley has been pretty high in the TC stage race. Both of them are going to PBP this year. Robert has won the tc stage race at least once (2004) and is quite often in the top 3. Robert told me on a 400k that he and Barley used to work at Camelbak and developed the podium bottle, then worked at Specialized, and then broke off to start Volagi.
That was Susan at the TT, second female finisher methinks. The DA liscio weighs ~16.1, ultegra 16.7, rival with the heavy wheels 17.8.
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The DA liscio weighs ~16.1, ultegra 16.7, rival with the heavy wheels 17.8.
Yeah, it's light enough ... Disc brakes on the descents makes sense.
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Yeah, it's light enough ... Disc brakes on the descents makes sense.
that's why I want one... besides the fact that they are very cool looking... the descents up here are steep and I think the disc brakes would be much better...
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Huh.

As someone who finds most modern carbon fibre frames & bikes dreadfully boring and rather ugly... this is a surprisingly cool bike.

The swoopiness seems to have a purpose. It was designed with concessions for usability and sensibility. It looks like a bike designed to be ridden, not a bike built merely to impress the cash out of those looking in the store window. Even the frame logos aren't as mind-blowingly obnoxious as most.

Peel off some decals, and paint it a color scheme other than 21st Century Beige (red, black, & white), and... I might even ride it.
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Huh.

As someone who finds most modern carbon fibre frames & bikes dreadfully boring and rather ugly... this is a surprisingly cool bike.

The swoopiness seems to have a purpose. It was designed with concessions for usability and sensibility. It looks like a bike designed to be ridden, not a bike built merely to impress the cash out of those looking in the store window. Even the frame logos aren't as mind-blowingly obnoxious as most.

Peel off some decals, and paint it a color scheme other than 21st Century Beige (red, black, & white), and... I might even ride it.
I am not a fan of raw carbon either. I like a classic shiny paint job that I can wax and admire.
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very very cool bike. i wonder what the weight is
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I've ridden my road bicycle in the mountains before and have never felt the need for mechanical disk brakes. Had a set of BB7s on one of my mountain bikes. They were okay but didn't even compare to Avid Elixirs or even Juicy 5s.

Also a little leery of that seat tube, seat stay juncture. Seems like it would make the frame very flexy. And why? My Scott Addict was totally comfortable for DMD.

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to each their own, but having ridden a couple of very different frames I find that wheels/tires/tubes/psi make a much more substantial difference in road feel than the frame.
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I've ridden my road bicycle in the mountains before and have never felt the need for mechanical disk brakes. Had a set of BB7s on one of my mountain bikes.
I'm not convinced they're that great, but avoiding heat build up in your rims on long hot downhills is definitely a plus - double plus if you ride sewups, triple plus if you're heavy.
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Wow! About $3500 for the Ultegra? And it can take fenders and Winter tires? I think I'm in love!
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I was thinking the disc brakes might be ideal for someone wanting to run carbon rims.

I like to see creative solutions to frame design, even if the end result isn't a bike I'd buy.

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I can't afford the stem, much less the whole thing.
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