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Old 04-07-12, 08:58 PM
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two bicyclists killed by speeding SUV in Concord this morning

Family of 3 was bicycling on a sidewalk bike path. Teenager driving a Cadillac Escalade jumped the curb, hit a fire hydrant, then hit the bicyclists. Father and daughter were killed. Second daughter is hospitalized.

https://www.contracostatimes.com/cali...ncord-accident
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Horrible. Unspeakably tragic. I'm so sorry for the family affected; I cannot begin to imagine what this does to them. I hope they throw the book at the driver and make an example of him. Was he "distracted", e.g. Waze-ing, texting, updating his Twitter status? If so, boom! Send him packing. And since he's young he'll have many years to contemplate his actions. Those are shoes I do not wish to walk a mile in (sorry to end with a preposition).
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Sad.

People should get special training to drive those mini tanks, and teenagers should be the last people allowed to drive them.
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^^ completely agree....a 17yo speeding in a Escalade.

This is just awful.
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Local newsblogger reports the kid was definitely speeding, and recently flunked some kind of drug test. Check out the damage to the building he hit. I hope his parents have a big house and a lot of money to forfeit for their bad decision of letting their son drive that tank.

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Makes no sense. Kid in continuation school with no job is trusted to even drive is beyond me. That was a tradgedy in the making.
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And another moron who is too stupid to pass high school, too lazy to get a job, and spends all his money (Gee, thanks mom and dad!) fixing up his SUV with big wheels and a sound system. Since he's 17, he and the parents are liable and will probably be paying for this for the rest of their lives and this POS will probably become a welfare person because any money he makes will go to the victims. The poor victims will never get back their family and probably will be lucky to get enough money to pay for all the bills. This idiot kid needs some serious jail time, which he probably won't get because he's 17, and needs to NEVER get a drivers license again, but then he'll just get messed up and be an unlicensed driver.

I don't know the kid personally, but it sounds like he should dig a hole, hop in, cover himself up and plant a tree on top of him so that he becomes compost. Probably the first worthwhile thing he'd ever do in his life!
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
Sad.

People should get special training to drive those mini tanks, and teenagers should be the last people allowed to drive them.
All you have to do is NOT drive with your head up your @$$ and there is no problem. As a retired traffic officer I have no sympathy for these idiots. I've seen too much injury and death because of these idiots!
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"Cellphone records were being checked as investigators try to determine whether talking on a phone may have contributed to a crash that killed a Concord man and his daughter, " police said Sunday.

"Friends of the teenage driver told KTVU he was on his way to a friend's house when he lost control of the SUV. They also said he would often drive fast and sometimes would talk on his cell phone."

https://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...hopping/nMLrd/
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All one hasto do is NOT drive with ahead up their@$$ and there is no problem. As a retired traffic officer I have no sympathy for these idiots. I've seen too much injury and death because of these idiots!
Fixed, or was this really directed at me?
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
Fixed, or was this really directed at me?

I think he was merely adding comments to yours.

Apparently he was speeding and attempting to go around another vehicle when he lost control. He must have been going really really fast in order to lose both front wheels of that Escalade.



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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
Sad.

People should get special training to drive those mini tanks, and teenagers should be the last people allowed to drive them.
A Mitsubishi Lancer would have been just as deadly I bet.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak
Sad. People should get special training to drive those mini tanks, and teenagers should be the last people allowed to drive them.
That is exactly what I want my teenager to drive in, and he did. You want your child in a "tank". The issue would be their actions once behind that wheel. Looking at the damage on that car it is clear the driver did something extremely foolish - something he will live with the rest of his life. The issue is reckless driving and possibly distracted driven, combined with excessive speed. Really horrible, Senseless and Sad.
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This is horrible and so upsetting.

After reading other websites regarding the accident I wonder why this 'punk' was still allowed to drive. This is not the normal hyper, immature teen we are talking about here, this is gang type material. Multiple speeding tickets, failed drug tests, problems at school... and yet he owns a custom Cadillac Escalade at 17. What kind of parents has he? Just check his friends too. A copy of his Facebook page is on the web, his friends defend him and throw insults at the victims. This is unbelievable. I hope justice turns out against his parents too, they share a major deal of responsibility here.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
A Mitsubishi Lancer would have been just as deadly I bet.
How about a Honda Fit? Pretty hard to be a jerk in one of those things. And not likeley to cause nearly the damage to surroundings when rolled.

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Incredibly tragic event. Unfortunately, in this country driving is a "right" not a privilege and with no Wonderlic test required.
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I found a picture of his brother and his friends defending his actions:



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Originally Posted by gpelpel
This is horrible and so upsetting.

After reading other websites regarding the accident I wonder why this 'punk' was still allowed to drive. This is not the normal hyper, immature teen we are talking about here, this is gang type material. Multiple speeding tickets, failed drug tests, problems at school... and yet he owns a custom Cadillac Escalade at 17. What kind of parents has he? Just check his friends too. A copy of his Facebook page is on the web, his friends defend him and throw insults at the victims. This is unbelievable. I hope justice turns out against his parents too, they share a major deal of responsibility here.
You got to figure there is no paternal guidance here. While coaching midget football, some parents expected us to teach life skills well beyond sportsmanship. It was really hard to see these kids struggle. Not a good way to learn lessons, at someone elses expense...
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I would be taking screen grabs of those Facebook pages before they get taken down, and they will get taken down.
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Sometimes I think stoning should be an acceptable punishment.
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Sometimes I think stoning should be an acceptable punishment.
I was thinking more along the lines of 'drawn and quartered' or 'tarred and feathered'.

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
How about a Honda Fit? Pretty hard to be a jerk in one of those things. And not likeley to cause nearly the damage to surroundings when rolled.
Anything with four wheels against cyclists is gonna be pretty deadly.
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If we had a proper justice system, this young man would be on trial for murder, with his parents facing accessory charges. The world's a slightly worse and needlessly dangerous place every day the killer spends outside of jail.
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He was released today. Hopefully they charge him as soon as possible.
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