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    Quote Originally Posted by volosong View Post
    I also ride the hoods and "stand" as tall as I can in my seat to catch as much wind as I can. Don't ever ride the drops on descents anymore.
    I highly recommend descending in the drops for safety reasons. It is easier to control the bike over bumps, especially on steep descents.

    This is what happened to my riding partner's beautiful Colnago when he crashed while descending the steep Happy Hollow Lane near Newcastle. He was descending on the hoods. Luckily he wasn't hurt badly (bruised ribs, nothing broken).



    Here's his helmet, which was cracked in the front from the impact. No, there wasn't any crash footage from the GoPro you see in the picture. Only the climb was recorded. He now records climbs and descents


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    Shame about that beautiful seductress. Glad your riding mate wasn't hurt too bad. It is actually more difficult for me to reach the brakes than when on top, (don't use any shims in the STI levers). When on the hoods, I've noticed that it is possible for my hands to "bounce off" when going over a particularly nasty bump. That's a bit disconcerting, and have learned that my fingers are long enough to wrap two of them under the hoods, usually the ring finger and the little finger - sometimes the ring and middle fingers. That's pretty secure, and my hand strength is such that enough force can be applied to slow down pretty quickly, using the index and middle/bird fingers. I'm going slow enough that I'm not too worried about stopping and more concerned about over-heating the rims. I'm so slow going down GMR that I think my time shows up on the last or next to last page of over a thousand riders who've made the ride. My downhill speeds for shorter descents are probably close to 30 mph, unless I can really see far ahead where I'll "open it up" to the mid 40s. Thanks for the warning. I appreciate it.

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    Just looked it up. I'm 1719 out of 1991. That's pretty sad for a clyde. KOM time is 12:26 at 37.4 mph. My time is 20:17 averaging at 22.9 mph. (Pretty consistent. Of the five times I've made that descent, they all have been between 21.9 mph and 22.9 mph, (20:17 to 21:17 minutes). Guess we all know where I'm most comfortable. I have definitely done faster on flat TTs.)

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    Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Back to our regularly scheduled programming - Riding Mix Canyon.
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    At least his sports drink stayed safely in the cage!

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    Matthew and I climbed Mix again last Saturday. This time he rode his Litespeed that he built up recently with SRAM Red. His S-Works also has Red, but now both bikes have an 11-28 cassette instead of the 11-26 he had last time.

    This time he climbed strong and didn't have to walk. Here's his Strava data: Bike Ride Profile | Mix Canyon with Phoebe_LTS near Vacaville | Times and Records | Strava Garmin Connect data: Mix Canyon with Phoebe_LTS by mwietrick at Garmin Connect - Details

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    Bike Ride Profile | Mix Canyon, Cantelow with Matthew near Vacaville | Times and Records | Strava
    Mix Canyon, Cantelow with Matthew by freighttraininguphill at Garmin Connect - Details

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    'lactating nipples' by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Matthew at the top with his new jersey from the Alta Alpina Challenge double century.




    He flatted on the first steep section of the descent, right before the graffiti guardrail. Luckily it was a slow leak!


    Matthew fixing a flat on Mix Canyon 8-31-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Here's video of our climb. This time I had the same camera as Matthew-a GoPro HD Hero Naked (original Hero), so there were no audio issues and I didn't end up sounding like Darth Vader. Like the last video, this one alternates between Matthew's footage and mine.

    Mix Canyon climb with Matthew 8-31-13 (combined footage) - YouTube

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    I climbed Mix again on 11/9. This time I had 4 other riders with me. My regular riding partner Matthew and I had our own helmet-mounted GoPro HD Hero cameras, but the other three riders didn't own cameras. They all agreed to wear one, so I loaned my other 3 good cameras to them to mount on their helmets (2 GoPro HD Hero2s and 1 ContourHD). Originally I was going to make a video with climb footage from all five cameras, but it would've ended up way too long so I made individual climb videos for all of us. Since the descent is much faster I was able to make a combined footage descent video from the other 4 riders. I made a video of the entire descent from my camera since I was the fastest descender. Unfortunately I was the slowest climber.

    http://www.strava.com/activities/94179540
    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/402117426

    Here's some screenshots from the GoPro HD Hero2 worn by the other female cyclist in the group. She had a standard double and a 12-32 cassette, so she stopped often to avoid pushing too hard. She also did a little walking on the toughest part. Even so, she was still 2 minutes faster than me at the top. While she was waiting for me on her rest stops she got some good shots of the scenery and me climbing.


    Climbing Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Climbing Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Climbing Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    One of the sections that was so steep I had to climb in the drops to avoid popping wheelies.

    Climbing Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Steep!

    Climbing Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    The top, finally!

    Climbing Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Group shot at the top

    Top of Mix Canyon 11-9-13 by freighttraininguphill, on Flickr

    Here's video of my climb (caution heavy breathing!).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McaNSbUgreA


    Here's the entire descent. It shows the two places I always stop to let my rims cool.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oalYfyVhxd4


    Here's the video with all the descent highlights from the other 4 riders.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLOBMoeulJM


    You can find the videos of the other 4 riders' climbs on my YouTube channel here: http://www.youtube.com/user/cyclingfun2/videos. They are all grouped together with a date of 11-9-13.

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    Good stuff.

    I'd like to get back out to Mix again before the year is over.

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    Yep, Mix Canyon is brutal. 6 of us experienced roadies set out to "conquer it" this past summer and only 3 of us reached the top. Choosing a hot day, starting in east Davis, and not stopping for water before Mix were all valuable lessons learned. If I were to do it again, I'd start in Vacaville, choose a cooler day, and go with a different cassette. We had a good laugh as we passed a couple of MBers, spinning like mad in their granny gears, before the steep section. The laughing ended soon after...

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickgm60 View Post
    Yep, Mix Canyon is brutal. 6 of us experienced roadies set out to "conquer it" this past summer and only 3 of us reached the top. Choosing a hot day, starting in east Davis, and not stopping for water before Mix were all valuable lessons learned. If I were to do it again, I'd start in Vacaville, choose a cooler day, and go with a different cassette. We had a good laugh as we passed a couple of MBers, spinning like mad in their granny gears, before the steep section. The laughing ended soon after...
    Cycle Folsom, 8/31 ride I posted my ride report with pics and video from that day here. I was doing my own ride with my regular riding partner, not CF.

    I'm the one who saw Troy climbing with his helmet-mounted GoPro HD Hero3 while I was descending. I yelled "Post that video!" at him. Later on I posted on the comments section for the ride on the CF website. Troy said he'd post his video footage but he never did. I'd love to see it, especially since he said there'd be lots of cussing and "heavy panting". That sounds like the videos I made for 3 of the other riders I was with on this latest Mix adventure. My regular riding partner Matthew doesn't talk much, and he didn't sound like he suffered as much as the rest of us.

    I always enjoy the sounds of a good sufferfest on ride videos, as it inspires me to push harder on my next ride.

    We always start our ride from Pena Adobe Park in Vacaville. It makes for a 30-mile ride, which is perfect. If it were any other climb that would be too short, but Mix is so brutal that I don't want it to be in the middle of a long ride!
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    Wow some serious climbs out there...and here I thought it was flat around Sac...I don't get out much. I think those climbs would kill me or at least cause my knees to explode

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuke_diver View Post
    Wow some serious climbs out there...and here I thought it was flat around Sac...I don't get out much. I think those climbs would kill me or at least cause my knees to explode
    As with much of the Central Valley, Sacramento itself, is nearly tabletop-flat. However, ~30 miles to the east, northeast, or southeast puts you in the Sierra foothills. There are countless tough climbs within an hour's ride of Folsom (a suburb to the east of Sac.)

    Mix and Gates are some 40 miles west of Sac, near Vacaville. Different mountain range, with lower elevations, but some mean grades.

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