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Old 11-29-12, 01:32 PM   #1
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Are they going to smooth out Skyline Drive?

Rode up Skyline this past weekend from Hwy9 to 84 (haven't been up there in months) and it was repaved but coarseneed. Much bumpier and rattly than last time I was up there.

Are they ever going to smooth out that surface, or is that it?
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Old 11-29-12, 01:56 PM   #2
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On the subject of fixing Skyline, is construction between Crystal Springs Road and Ralston Ave finished now?
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Old 11-29-12, 02:25 PM   #3
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I went to the CalTrans site and sent an e-mail asking if the work on Skyline is now considered complete. I haven't rideen the whole expanse of it yet, but I wasn't too pleased with the section between OLH-84.

I think the belief in this Forum is that the work is in fact done and cycylists have to get used to it. I'll post any feedback I receive from CalTrans.
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Old 11-29-12, 02:31 PM   #4
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Thanks. It's not horrendous, but it's definitely enough to be annoying at speeds over 20mph. It's not so bad on the climbing sections where you're slowing, but that descent isn't too pleasant.
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Old 11-29-12, 02:32 PM   #5
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A few days ago, the Mr. Roadshow column in the Mercury-News said that upper Skyline would be smoothed out later in the week. Of course, the current rain storm will likely delay that.

Regarding the construction near Crystal Springs, I think that was supposed to be a 4 year project and 2 years have been completed so far.
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Old 11-29-12, 02:34 PM   #6
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I hope he's right about the smoothing. But I think that since it's been striped, it's done.

They still have some eqipment up there including a sweeper. Maybe they'll use it.
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Old 11-29-12, 06:20 PM   #7
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What the heck are they doing in that Crystal springs project? (I'm late to that party.)
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Old 11-29-12, 07:26 PM   #8
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A few days ago, the Mr. Roadshow column in the Mercury-News said that upper Skyline would be smoothed out later in the week. Of course, the current rain storm will likely delay that.

Regarding the construction near Crystal Springs, I think that was supposed to be a 4 year project and 2 years have been completed so far.
Thanks for the info (I was stymied because of this during my summer SF -> Palo Alto ride). I guess I'll have to detour around it for the foreseeable future.
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Old 02-14-13, 10:32 PM   #9
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Saw in a letter to Caltrans

Posted by the director of the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition that CalTrans is planning on repaving a portion of Mt. Hamilton Road with the dread 1/2" chip aggregate. The letter was in protest of this policy which is making our highways less usable to bicyclists. That may not be Caltrans stated policy, but will surely be the result. Esp. if bicyclist are quiet about it.

Question, does the 1/2" chips affect motorcyclists negatively also?

I'm not a road builder, but it seems to me the larger aggregate you use the shorter the road is going to last--so it's all false economy anyway.

I plan on writing also. I know it isn't easy to build new roads, but I'm disturbed when we don't take proper care of the ones we have.
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"Is planning"? They already paved a good part of Mt Ham with the new large chips last summer. It's a little better than the job on Skyline- slightly smoother and it's not coming up yet. Probably because they did it in summer, and Mt Ham gets less traffic.

As a motorcyclist I can say that the new chip seal on skyline sucks. In a car it's not as good as normal chip seal or pavement.
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Yep sucks on motorcycle also, specially on super sport.
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From today's 5/13/13 Merc Roadshow

Q Several months ago, Caltrans repaved Skyline Boulevard. Before they repaved it, the road was in fine condition but the repaving job was so poorly done that the road is now terrible. In a number of spots, the new surface has already worn through, revealing the original pavement underneath and creating potholes. A good example can be found at Kings Mountain Road and Skyline.

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A Don't expect a smoother road. Caltrans performed a chip seal job here, which is different from paving, and it says the work was fine and nothing more will likely be done. A chip seal can keep good pavement in good condition by sealing out water, but it provides no structural strength and repairs only minor cracks. It's a low-cost way to maintain a road, but it is not as smooth as paving, as Manny and others have found.
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Old 05-13-13, 12:31 PM   #13
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Mr Roadshow is an idiot.

Last time they chip sealed 35 the seal they used did not adhere (it was even worse than this job in that respect). The resulting bare patches were super slick when wet. A lot of motorcycle crashes resulted. The eventually redid it after a couple years of complaints.
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ericm979,

I don't think Mr. Roadshow is stating that his opinion is that Caltrans did a fine job. He's reporting that Caltrans says it did a fine job. Actually he gives no indication that's he's very well acquainted with the current situation on Skyline. Obviously I disagree with Manny Gabets assertion in Roadshow that Skyline was (previously) in fine shape; it was far from that, but I will agree that the "maintenance" was so atrocious that it would be preferable had the road been left alone because with enough riding one knew the best line to take through the broken pavement and where the potholes were---now it's really difficult to "read" the road.

I won't bicycle on Skyline any longer--at least I had my fun on it.
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> Actually he gives no indication that's he's very well acquainted with the current situation on Skyline

I agree, and that was the reason for my comment on the quality of his work. It seems that all he did was call up his buddy at CalTrans who told him that Skyline is just fine.
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Old 05-14-13, 03:22 PM   #16
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I hear Skyline's repaving was sponsored by the local dentist trade group hoping to get more work from lost fillings.
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The Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition says they are trying to work with Caltrans to improve the Skyline road surface: http://bikesiliconvalley.org/2013/05...-on-highway-35
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