Fatality on Skyline (Hwy 35 in Woodside) today
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I think a lot of it has to do with closing speeds. I've nearly hit pedestrians once or twice because I was doing a short sprint and they didn't expect a cyclist moving at 30 mph. They didn't realize how fast I was going until they were already in front of me.
As for light pairs, I think the relevant comparison is motorcycles with dual beam lights. The danger of two light is that other drivers might think you're a distant car, rather than a cyclist with narrow light spacing.
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****ing doughbag. Maybe that cop who was lecturing us at STP on Saturday should hang out at that intersection. For our safety my ass. Had to bit down the urge to tell him to **** off with his little idiotic safety speech about riding two abreast. Kicker? He didn't even see us ride. Just felt like lecturing.
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I'm not sure what you are a trying to say with this video. Judging by the comments, many participants here somehow concluded that the car driver failed to notice the cyclist. But what if the driver did notice the cyclist, yet decided that there's still enough time to enter the road safely?
In this video the time separation between the moment the car starts moving and the moment the cyclist passes through the same spot is about 5 seconds. This is a perfectly safe amount of temporal separation. So, again, where is the problem in the above video?
In this video the time separation between the moment the car starts moving and the moment the cyclist passes through the same spot is about 5 seconds. This is a perfectly safe amount of temporal separation. So, again, where is the problem in the above video?
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Just to be clear here - unless the reports on the news are completely wrong (which I grant you is possible), the scene depicted in the video is not the situation that got the woman killed in the crash referred to by the OP. The car did not pull out of the side street in front of her, but rather the car was coming from the opposite direction and started to turn left in front of her to go into the side street, the classic left cross.
The video is scary, and serves as another good reminder for us to be careful, but it is not what happened here.
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I'm not sure what you are a trying to say with this video. Judging by the comments, many participants here somehow concluded that the car driver failed to notice the cyclist. But what if the driver did notice the cyclist, yet decided that there's still enough time to enter the road safely?
In this video the time separation between the moment the car starts moving and the moment the cyclist passes through the same spot is about 5 seconds. This is a perfectly safe amount of temporal separation. So, again, where is the problem in the above video?
In this video the time separation between the moment the car starts moving and the moment the cyclist passes through the same spot is about 5 seconds. This is a perfectly safe amount of temporal separation. So, again, where is the problem in the above video?
I have seen motorists push that envelope only to have a U-joint fail while accelerating. This sort of behavior in which one relies on everything and everyone else working perfectly is really not a safe way to operate a potentially deadly machine.
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I'm with Carfree's analysis of the video. If it was me on the bike I would had been furious that someone would have been willing at a minimum to scare me witless rather than pausing for five seconds before turning. Also, what if the car had stalled, or had its tires spin on wet pavement etc.--things like that can happen. If I was a cop witnessing that turn, I'd have ticketed the driver for making an unsafe turn.
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I'm with Carfree's analysis of the video. If it was me on the bike I would had been furious that someone would have been willing at a minimum to scare me witless rather than pausing for five seconds before turning. Also, what if the car had stalled, or had its tires spin on wet pavement etc.--things like that can happen. If I was a cop witnessing that turn, I'd have ticketed the driver for making an unsafe turn.
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On yesterday's ride, I noticed a whole lot more riders with blinkies, including me. That just may be the one tiny bit of good to come out of this tragedy.
I also rode past the site. Heading north, Elk Tree Rd. comes after a high-speed S turn. You have only a few seconds after coming around the last corner and there it is. And yes, you're coming out of the shadows into the open.
I also rode past the site. Heading north, Elk Tree Rd. comes after a high-speed S turn. You have only a few seconds after coming around the last corner and there it is. And yes, you're coming out of the shadows into the open.
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re: "coming out of the shadows into the open"
this is why daytime riders need strobes (not just blinkies)
this is why daytime riders need strobes (not just blinkies)
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The important thing about either is that a flashing light draws the eye in a way that a steady light doesn't. I find that a flashing light in the full light of day will catch my eye long before I'd have noted a cyclist.
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sorry, right, the brighter the better. I only loosely and badly tried to make a distinction cuz I've seen some darn week blinkers or whatever. this past Saturday I noticed some brightly clad riders virtually disappear on a bright sunny day as they rode under the shade of a line of trees, no lights. add to that drivers with sunglasses and you got a real visibility issue. now that the sun is lower too there is more sun-in-the-eyes.
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I've watched the video of the left turning car about 10 times now. It's almost impossible for me to understand this. Is the driver's brain programed to stop, turn head left, look for "car" or "truck", and then immediately proceed if none is seen? If one lives on Elk Tree are road cyclists a rare sight? Are cyclists going to have to resort to locomotive type lights and horns in the near future?
It would serve us all well to ride with this frame of mind. If I was that lady approaching that car, my hand would have been on the brake and slowing down until I was comfortable that she sees me and will not pull out.
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