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Siu Blue Wind 09-23-13 11:09 AM

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School has started. This just happened.

Please go over with your kids about safe riding and watching out for cars.

http://eastcountytoday.net/child-on-...middle-school/

bobonker 09-23-13 02:29 PM

That is horrible. I frequently ride in that area. The road that he was on has a fairly large shoulder (as you can see from the pics), but in the mornings and afternoons, it is overrun commuters and parents.

RIP

Bob

Siu Blue Wind 09-23-13 03:06 PM

Is it me or does the SUV look like it's IN the shoulder? The kid is pinned under it, I believe that's why there's the yellow tarp over the front of it.

longbeachgary 09-23-13 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobonker (Post 16096284)
That is horrible. I frequently ride in that area. The road that he was on has a fairly large shoulder (as you can see from the pics), but in the mornings and afternoons, it is overrun commuters and parents.

RIP

Bob

Seems that any school is a hotbed of activity at 8 and 3. The police department here routinely patrols and tickets stupid parents that do not yield to the children.

Shimagnolo 09-23-13 03:17 PM

Yes, she is parked in the bike lane, but according to this article, she dragged the kid 60', and didn't know what she had hit. So I suspect she pulled over, then stopped in the bike lane.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-...-school/nZ5NH/

Video from the air: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...county-school/

Google Map centered on location of the SUV: https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=1...=h&mra=mr&z=20

DiabloScott 09-24-13 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobonker (Post 16096284)
That is horrible. I frequently ride in that area. The road that he was on has a fairly large shoulder (as you can see from the pics), but in the mornings and afternoons, it is overrun commuters and parents.

RIP

Bob


The kid was riding on the wrong side of the road, driver was looking for traffic coming from the left before turning right on the highway... driver never even saw what she hit.

The amazing thing is that so many people think riding against traffic is safer somehow and they tell their kids to do it. When I'm driving I'm extra aware of cyclists and their safety - but the closest calls I've ever had were riders on the sidewalk or riding on the wrong side of the road.

bobonker 09-24-13 04:51 PM

I can see how she didn't see him. I don't really understand how she could hit him, have him and the bike get pulled under the car, and not notice that.

My oldest son is 11 and word of this tragedy spread fast around here.

He was on the wrong side of the road, but IMO, he should not have been riding on that road (shoulder or not). Though not as busy/fast as some parts of Byron Highway, it is still a highway. Add to that that he also used to ride (the even more dangerous IMO) Hwy 4 (Discovery Bay -> Hwy 4 -> Byron Hwy) during commute/school hours, I feel like this was a tragedy just waiting to happen. I can't imagine the pain the parents must feel but also cannot ever imagine thinking that it'd be safe for my kids to take that route to school.

Bob

blt 09-24-13 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DiabloScott (Post 16099958)
The kid was riding on the wrong side of the road, driver was looking for traffic coming from the left before turning right on the highway... driver never even saw what she hit.

The amazing thing is that so many people think riding against traffic is safer somehow and they tell their kids to do it. When I'm driving I'm extra aware of cyclists and their safety - but the closest calls I've ever had were riders on the sidewalk or riding on the wrong side of the road.

I also an extra aware of cyclists and their safety. 4 things have caused my closest calls. Two of them are the same as yours, riders on the wrong side of the road, and riders on the sidewalk. The other 2 are riders riding in crosswalks, and night time riders with no lights. My closest calls with riders in crosswalks have been when the rider was going on the left side of the intersection as the rider is facing it, i.e. typically riding on the sidewalk on the side of the street facing traffic and then continuing into the crosswalk. This makes the rider very vulnerable to people making right hand turns from the cross street, as well as people coming from the same direction as the rider making left turns across the crosswalk, who have no idea a fast moving 2 wheeled vehicle is coming from behind and to the left as they turn across the crosswalk.

The only people I have personally witnessed after being hit on a bike by a car were in crosswalks. The only time a child at one of my wife's schools was killed on a bike was in a crosswalk going home from school.

I do think that a lot of hammering home safety considerations can keep kids from riding at night without lights, and sometimes from riding on the wrong side of the road. Keeping kids from riding on sidewalks and in crosswalks is really hard, so I emphasize that if they are going to do those unsafe things, they need to look carefully in all directions before crossing a driveway, or before crossing in a crosswalk, and always assume that cars do not see you, unless you have clear eye contact with the driver.

You may feel safer in a crosswalk or on the sidewalk, or when you can see cars coming towards you, you won't feel that way when you are dead or in the hospital.


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