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Old 02-02-10, 10:50 PM   #1
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Even though the crowds aren't really my scene, it is a fun ride. I did it as a 1-day in 2008; 14h 45m total time. The best advice I can give you is to get out with one of the early start waves and don't stop at any of the rests until you get 40 - 50 miles out if possible. You'll get a jump on the crowds and avoid all the super long lines for water/food/bathrooms that you find at the first 2 or 3 stops.

Watch for the Marathon Photo people and give 'em a good smile or pose as you zip past. They do a great job at STP, and even though it's a bit on the pricey side, the photo CD of all the pix they take is a nice memento.
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I am registered too. I made riding the STP in one day a goal a long time ago and this is the year to make it happen.
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This is my year for a one-day ride as well. Looking forward to pushing myself to a new goal- if I manage this successfully, I plan to try brevets next year, see if I can complete a super randonneur series.
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Don't stop until Centralia. Grab on to the pack. I did it that way and hit Centralia in 4:15, the full ride in 10 hours start to finish counting the breaks. I couldn't walk for three days. This was in 1986.
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This is my year for a one-day ride as well. Looking forward to pushing myself to a new goal- if I manage this successfully, I plan to try brevets next year, see if I can complete a super randonneur series.
You should come out and try a brevet or a populaire this year. There's plenty of 200k events (125mi) and a few 100k populaires with SIR this year. Heck, you get 13.5 hours to finish a 200k.

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Don't stop until Centralia. Grab on to the pack. I did it that way and hit Centralia in 4:15, the full ride in 10 hours start to finish counting the breaks. I couldn't walk for three days. This was in 1986.
4h 15m to Centrailia is over a 23.5mph rolling pace for 100 miles. A 10h finish is better than 20.5mph rolling average for 203 miles. While I'm not saying it's impossible, (because I saw some teams out doing those speeds in 2008), I will say that it's highly unlikely for most people.
Grabbing onto a 23 - 25mph paceline if you're not familiar with pacelining or the group you're latching onto is insanely dangerous.
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You should come out and try a brevet or a populaire this year. There's plenty of 200k events (125mi) and a few 100k populaires with SIR this year. Heck, you get 13.5 hours to finish a 200k.


4h 15m to Centrailia is over a 23.5mph rolling pace for 100 miles. A 10h finish is better than 20.5mph rolling average for 203 miles. While I'm not saying it's impossible, (because I saw some teams out doing those speeds in 2008), I will say that it's highly unlikely for most people.
Grabbing onto a 23 - 25mph paceline if you're not familiar with pacelining or the group you're latching onto is insanely dangerous.
The "pack" was a group of at least a few hundred riders, it wasn't a team paceline. And I've always believed we had a tailwind. I was far from the most fit rider at the time but I did ride a lot. Once in the rhythm it seemed to be easy riding until I got off the bike and couldn't stand. And it was certainly fast. At the time there were only 3 official rest stops, Spanaway, Centralia, and before the bridge to Oregon (I can't remember the town name).

And it was only 192mi at the time. They added the 10 miles to make it a true double.
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Last year, my son and I did our first STP in one day, 12.5 hours and 5.3 hours to Centralia. This year is with my daughter and hope to beat that time. Oh yeah, with a tandem of course.
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I did it in one day last year (14 hours clock time, about 11.5 hours actual saddle time) and had an enjoyable day. I may do it in two days this year with my wife and son. IMHO, the route itself is unremarkable, but a one day ride is a nice accomplishment, and I am looking forward to spending the time with my family this year.
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Even though the crowds aren't really my scene, it is a fun ride. I did it as a 1-day in 2008; 14h 45m total time. The best advice I can give you is to get out with one of the early start waves and don't stop at any of the rests until you get 40 - 50 miles out if possible. You'll get a jump on the crowds and avoid all the super long lines for water/food/bathrooms that you find at the first 2 or 3 stops.
Can't agree more about skipping the first few stops. As a budding rando a few years ago on the STP one-day I didn't stop until a round 100km (62 mi) into the ride, which happens to be at a little corner store near Tenino (I think).

Last year this was on the the same day as the Redmond Derby Days crit, and this year on the same day as a big stage race up in Bellingham... so it looks like I won't be on this again.

A fun ride, I like the route except for that last part..
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I'm curious as to the average cost that people spend to do this, I considered going, My co-worker told me that it was about $100 bucks, but looking online, that only covers the cost of reg, I still have to pay for the ride back and other amenities if I'm a 2 dayer?
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Signed up last weekend. I have a comfortable amount of experience in centuries. Is there anything particularly unique I should keep in mind when planning for the two-day? Obviously fueling up properly after day one is critical, but what else?
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I haven't looked at the registration page for this year yet, but last year's registration page had the breakdown for costs of the bus ride back and that type of thing.

If you want to go cheap, at the starting line, they have a dropoff zone where you can drop a sleeping bag and tent and they will have it ready for you at Centralia (or 1 of a handful of other towns past the century mark) and there are a bunch of people camping in the local parks, etc. If you do that, you are going to be out the cost of dinner saturday and breakfast sunday

For the most part, all of the rest stops have water, electrolyte replacement, and food (clif bars, snacks, etc. some have a full lunch setup)

I spent $5 on a replacement tube (i had two flats during my 2 days)
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Couple of hundred dollars for the tickets [2], same for the hotel in the U-District, same for the hotel in Portland, and probably about a hundred for food/gas for the wife and son. This should be about right for my daughter and me with our tandem. Not to mention the money spent on training rides. Well worth for the memories that it will provide.
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Signed up last weekend. I have a comfortable amount of experience in centuries. Is there anything particularly unique I should keep in mind when planning for the two-day? Obviously fueling up properly after day one is critical, but what else?
My only advice is to keep riding and do the second century the same day. I've never been able to see how anyone can do this 2 days in a row. I've only done it as a one day ride myself. It is much easier to keep going. YMMV. Literally.

Once, many years ago (probably 1985), I was at my friends house in Tenino on the day of the ride. There was a group of his friends doing the 2 day that were staying overnight at his house and I could just see how much they were dragging the next morning. I was just thinking about how sore I'd be after doing century even when I was in good shape.

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Signed up last weekend. I have a comfortable amount of experience in centuries. Is there anything particularly unique I should keep in mind when planning for the two-day? Obviously fueling up properly after day one is critical, but what else?
Fueling up during day one is important, too. My wife and I have done the two-day a couple times- get used to the zoo at the first couple rest stops, but things thin out once the one-day pacelines are out in front of you. We enjoyed quite a few quiet miles at the end of the first day.

We stayed at the Vader Assembly of God Church, which is at about 128 miles. They put on a good feed- enough so that there was leftover desserts at breakfast the next morning (try that with a hundred or two ravenous cyclists to feed). They drove us to resident's houses for showers, and we slept inside on the floor of the church. The next morning they fed us breakfast and we warmed up on the hills from there to Longview. It's a great way to do a two-day, since the crowds are much smaller, and you're still done by about mid-day on Sunday.
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STP is a blast. My first was in '08 and we did it in 2 days, last year we 1 day'd it, about 13 hours total, 11 hours in the saddle. If you can do it in 2 days, you can do it in one day. Yeah, its a *really* long day, but you don't have to sleep in a tent on the ground, then wake up cold and sore and ride another hundred miles.

The added bonus of being a 1 day rider (aside from the patch you get) is on Hwy 30 there is NO shade at mid-day when you'd be on it. In '08 it was 90 degrees and I was going through 2 bottles every 10 miles. In '09 since we were going through much later in the day the sun was lower and there was plenty of shade.
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STP is a blast. My first was in '08 and we did it in 2 days, last year we 1 day'd it, about 13 hours total, 11 hours in the saddle. If you can do it in 2 days, you can do it in one day. Yeah, its a *really* long day, but you don't have to sleep in a tent on the ground, then wake up cold and sore and ride another hundred miles.

The added bonus of being a 1 day rider (aside from the patch you get) is on Hwy 30 there is NO shade at mid-day when you'd be on it. In '08 it was 90 degrees and I was going through 2 bottles every 10 miles. In '09 since we were going through much later in the day the sun was lower and there was plenty of shade.
Yeah 2008 was HOT HOT HOT on Hwy 30, I had a nice set of tan "stockings" on my legs from that ride.

I would recommend Winlock as my layover stop, who can pass up the Big Egg?
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I would recommend Winlock as my layover stop, who can pass up the Big Egg?
I did. I missed the egg and only saw it in pictures. I will have to look for it this year.
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I'm planning on doing STP for the first time this year. Where can I find info on training rides in/around Portland? What about possibly joining teams?
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I did. I missed the egg and only saw it in pictures. I will have to look for it this year.
Wasn't much of a rest stop - a parking lot with a roach coach.



I did STP for the first time in 2009 - did the one day; my first and only double century. If you really need two days I'd suggest at least Castle Rock at m=137. Goble at m=161 would be even better but I don't know if there are any facilities there. Most of the two-day riders I talked to wished they had gone farther on day 1 because after you stop there's not much to do but eat and get stiff and not sleep well... so the shorter you can make day 2 the better.
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Instead of taking the bus back to Seattle, has anyone taken the train? Or parked in Portland and taken the train up to the start?

Thanks for all the great tips from your past STP rides. Lots ot things that, me being a fairly new rider, would not have thought about. I am working my way up to riding the STP - this year it's the shorter local event rides and hopefully next year the STP for me.
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I know I have read about people doing it. I don't know what they did with their bikes, but I am sure you could call Amtrak and see how they would handle a bike.
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