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down tube shifters
Perhaps I saw the brief camera close up wrongly, it looked liked Lance had downtube shifters on his
climbing bike in one of the early stages. Did anyone else notice?
climbing bike in one of the early stages. Did anyone else notice?
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Originally Posted by basso91
Perhaps I saw the brief camera close up wrongly, it looked liked Lance had downtube shifters on his
climbing bike in one of the early stages. Did anyone else notice?
climbing bike in one of the early stages. Did anyone else notice?
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Read somewhere (I think it was on the mechanical forum) else that he likes the downtube shifter for the chainrings for some reason.
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On topic:
Will the down tube front derailer shifter become the coolest thing in the cycling world?
Answer:
Not unless Shimano gives it a new name, gives it a cosmetical change, and(most importantly) price it higher than current top of the line shifter, then there will be a lot of "me too" buyers.
Will the down tube front derailer shifter become the coolest thing in the cycling world?
Answer:
Not unless Shimano gives it a new name, gives it a cosmetical change, and(most importantly) price it higher than current top of the line shifter, then there will be a lot of "me too" buyers.
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I've actually considered building my next bike with one on the left side. Lance isn't the first to do this. It has nothing to do with weight - its cause STI's suck at trimming. How much do you shift between 53/39? Not that often, or at least i don't. Once i drop down to 39, its cause I'm on a climb - I'm gonna be there for a while. The left STI has very little advantage. I like it, but not cause Lance does it. I think Basso does too, i think Pantani even did it.
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
I like it, but not cause Lance does it. I think Basso does too, i think Pantani even did it.
https://www.campyonly.com/marcobike.html
It especially makes sense from a KIS,S standpoint. Brifters occasionally dump chains onto BBs or crankarms.
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Originally Posted by pseudobrit
It especially makes sense from a KIS,S standpoint. Brifters occasionally dump chains onto BBs or crankarms.
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So here's the question. You have to have a frame with a hole for DT shifters, right? You can't put one on with some kind of adapter or anything? That sucks.
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the first I recall doing it was andy hampsten...and you save like 100 grams doing it, as I recall. It most certainly is a weight oriented decision.
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
the first I recall doing it was andy hampsten...and you save like 100 grams doing it, as I recall. It most certainly is a weight oriented decision.
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ummm at but not under, right? therefore the 70-100 grams he saves from using a downtube shifter must have some use, no?
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
ummm at but not under, right? therefore the 70-100 grams he saves from using a downtube shifter must have some use, no?
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All of those bikes could be well under weight with both STIs, it isn't a weight saving thing - for the millionth time.
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
So here's the question. You have to have a frame with a hole for DT shifters, right? You can't put one on with some kind of adapter or anything? That sucks.
Again there is somewhat of a weight savings, but overall I believe it's the ability to fully adjust that front derailer so you get no rubs at all. I only have a double on the front and have trouble a lot of the time. It's a fricken PITA.
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
I've actually considered building my next bike with one on the left side. Lance isn't the first to do this. It has nothing to do with weight - its cause STI's suck at trimming. How much do you shift between 53/39? Not that often, or at least i don't. Once i drop down to 39, its cause I'm on a climb - I'm gonna be there for a while. The left STI has very little advantage. I like it, but not cause Lance does it. I think Basso does too, i think Pantani even did it.
STI shifters are just flat out terrible for Front D's.
The friction shift bar end is a thing of wonder.
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You don't even have to go as far as DT now cause you get a friction shifter up near the brake levers, with Kelly Take Offs https://www.kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html.
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But ... can one safely assume that it is an indexed downtube shifter? With a double, trimming should not be a big issue, should it?
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Originally Posted by gmason
But ... can one safely assume that it is an indexed downtube shifter? With a double, trimming should not be a big issue, should it?
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it probably isn't indexed. I honestly don't know why anyone would run an indexed DT shifter on the front. Do you really need index for 2 gears? Seriously. Just shift until its on the ring. I'm sure its adjusted so that it can't shift the chain off on either side, but other than that - infinitely variable so he gets no grrrrr, grrrrr, grrrr sound when he's running a high chain cross.
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If you've ever ridden a tri bike they have bar end shifters, anyhow the chainring is not indexed. It's friction. Only the back has the "clicks" for gears.
As far as trimming on the front, I've never ridden a triple, but on my double, you have to micro adjust the front if you are changing gears alot. If you are in the easier gears, say 20-25 it's fully out, but as you go to the harder gears, say 19-12 you have to click the front over just a bit to keep from rubbing. This is on the small chainring only. On the large chainring(53) I never go above gear 21 (I have a 12-25 in the back) So those top 2 I never use in the big chain ring. If I'm in the smallest chainring, I'll use all but the 12 tooth. Hope this helps.
As far as trimming on the front, I've never ridden a triple, but on my double, you have to micro adjust the front if you are changing gears alot. If you are in the easier gears, say 20-25 it's fully out, but as you go to the harder gears, say 19-12 you have to click the front over just a bit to keep from rubbing. This is on the small chainring only. On the large chainring(53) I never go above gear 21 (I have a 12-25 in the back) So those top 2 I never use in the big chain ring. If I'm in the smallest chainring, I'll use all but the 12 tooth. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
All of those bikes could be well under weight with both STIs, it isn't a weight saving thing - for the millionth time.
I think you're wrong
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Originally Posted by gsteinb
I think you're wrong
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oh. i know andy hampsten did it for weight....but i couldn't really care less. it's just fun seeing you guys get worked up over such an innane issue.
what fabric is his socks made out of?
what fabric is his socks made out of?