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Old 07-17-05, 02:46 PM   #1
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What happened to Victor Hugo Pena

Sorry I had to make a thread for this but did i miss something, he went to Phonak right? I haven't heard of him at all this year. Why isn't he doing the tour?
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Old 07-17-05, 02:55 PM   #2
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Si.
http://www.phonak-cycling.ch/Team/Fahrer/Pena/
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It appears he hasn't raced at all this year ??
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From the TourDeFrance Blog:

Victor Hugo Peña's freak accident in the neutral zone of Sunday's Paris-Roubaix may keep him out of the Tour de France.

Peña cracked two vertebrae, and abandoned soon after the race start. He's expected to wear a back brace for a month or so.

“I am worried about my preparations for the Tour de France,” he said. “I will have to rest the injury for two weeks and then we will see how much time it will take me to fully recover.”

Now riding for Phonak, Peña was one of Lance Armstrong's most reliable mountain specialists over the last few years at US Postal.
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Hmmm, that's from the TourDeFrance Blog? I've never heard anyone call Pena a mountain specialist before, but he was a terrific TT'r. Here he is winning Stage 11, an ITT, in the 2000 Giro:
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Old 07-17-05, 11:30 PM   #6
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From the TourDeFrance Blog:

Victor Hugo Peña's freak accident in the neutral zone of Sunday's Paris-Roubaix may keep him out of the Tour de France.

Peña cracked two vertebrae, and abandoned soon after the race start. He's expected to wear a back brace for a month or so.

“I am worried about my preparations for the Tour de France,” he said. “I will have to rest the injury for two weeks and then we will see how much time it will take me to fully recover.”

Now riding for Phonak, Peña was one of Lance Armstrong's most reliable mountain specialists over the last few years at US Postal.
oohh so that's what happened... really too bad
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I've never heard anyone call Pena a mountain specialist before
He's Colombian. He's a climber. He was always one to pull on the first mountains of a stage. He could time trial too. He was an all arounder. Sort of like Landis last year.
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He's Colombian. He's a climber.


Any other stereotypes you want to superimpose on him? How about, "He's a Colombian; he's a coke dealer."?

Pena is not a "mountain specialist" as you said in your original post, but he is a good climber. He is considered an all around complete rider. His specialty is the time trial. And Landis is not a "mountain specialist" either, but he can climb. Landis also time trials better than he climbs, which is why Liggett recently said he thought Landis was the best time trial in the peloton today. Nobody will ever say that about his climbing.

Rasmussen is a mountain specialist because he specializes in climbing as can be said of riders like Pantani, Simoni, Herrera, so on and so on. Can you see the difference between a mountain specialist like Rasmussen and a good climber like Landis or perhaps Pena?

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Any other stereotypes you want to superimpose on him? How about, "He's a Colombian; he's a coke dealer."?

Pena is not a "mountain specialist" as you said in your original post, but he is a good climber.
Yeah, I guess that is a stereotype, but one that he himself subscribes to. Get the back issue of Outside Magazine from July 2004 and read the interview with him and find out about his great pride in being a Colombian and a climber in the tradition of the great climbers from Colombia (his words, not mine).

As for calling hima Mountain specialist, that was a quote from someone else jack hole.

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He is considered an all around complete rider. Can you see the difference between a mountain specialist like Rasmussen and a good climber like Landis or perhaps Pena?
Did you read my post? Where I said that he was taking pulls on the early mountains and that he was more of an all-arounder like Landis?

I think you might really be Godefroot, because the gibberish that flows from your mouth is just as ridiculous.
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Yeah, I guess that is a stereotype, but one that he himself subscribes to. Get the back issue of Outside Magazine from July 2004 and read the interview with him and find out about his great pride in being a Colombian and a climber in the tradition of the great climbers from Colombia (his words, not mine).
Really? This is a quote from Pena in that article:

"In Europe, I can be a climber," he says. "In Colombia, I am no climber." That was evident from the get-go. "In my first race, on the first climb—the first rider dropped was me," Peña remembers.

He doesn't compare himself to the tradition of Colombian climbers. He doesn't even compare himself to the best Colombian climbers of today.

First you quote some misinformed blog that calls Pena a mountain specialist, then you act like a little beeyotch when someone calls you on it, then you misquote Pena's own comments about himself.

Who exactly is the jackhole?

For those interested in the article: http://outside.away.com/outside/feat...go_pena_1.html
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Who exactly is the jackhole?
I believe that's already been determined from previous threads.
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Who exactly is the jackhole?
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Actually, I did just make up that crap about what it said in that article because I was hoping to just shut you up. You struck me as a July poster who will dissapear when the Tour ends, so i doubted you had the motivation or the intelligence to find the article. Bad move on my part.

I still stand by the fact that I never called him a mountain specialist and that I did say he was an all arounder, much like Landis. Exactly what you said. So pi$$ off.

And, let me tell you that if you call me a Beeyatch as you did, you better be prepared to be hunted down.
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Also, the point behind the Blog post wasn't to identify what kind of rider he was, it was to inform the original poster as to why he wasn't riding in the Tour. Job done.
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Any other stereotypes you want to superimpose on him? How about, "He's a Colombian; he's a coke dealer."?
It's PEPSI dealer you blithering idiot.
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Hunt me down. Make my day.
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Any other stereotypes you want to superimpose on him? How about, "He's a Colombian; he's a coke dealer."?
Wow, Pena is a coke dealer? I did not know that.
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