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    King of the Malfunctions points competition- SPOILERS INVOLVED

    Last year I started a thread inspired by the unfortunate malfunctions suffered by Rasmussen. The King of the Malfunctions jersey is a blue kevlar jersey with one sleeve missing, dotted with graphics of various malfunctions. Someone supplied a cool graphic last year - can anyone find it?

    How does one accumulate points for the Blue Jersey?

    Mechanical adjustment by team mechanic while bike is still moving - 1 point
    Mechanical problem that stops the bike - 2 points
    Flat tire or wheel change - 3 points
    Bike change - 4 points

    The first winner of the Blue Jersey in the 2006 Tour de France is Floyd Landis, who missed the starting bell in today's prologue due to a mechanical problem.

    Current Standings: Floyd Landis - 2 points
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    What exactly was the mechanical problem? They didn't say on OLN this morning. Do groupies count as malfunctions? (I'm kidding. I'm sure Floyd is a paragon of virtue.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeDad
    What exactly was the mechanical problem? They didn't say on OLN this morning. Do groupies count as malfunctions? (I'm kidding. I'm sure Floyd is a paragon of virtue.)


    A sliced tire forced a last second wheel change (Anyone else thinking sabatoge?)... Nonetheless, it looks like it should be 3 points to Landis...

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    Are we positive that a tire slice is the real reason ... and not just the "official" one?

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    does thor get a point for being stabbed? -- or do you want to measure only bike related probs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paniolo
    Are we positive that a tire slice is the real reason ... and not just the "official" one?
    I think I saw pictures of mechanics replacing his wheel... so the conspiracy if there is one is not a particularly exciting one.

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    Floyd Landis was awarded one extra point when it was learned that his delay in starting yerterday's prologue was caused by a wheel change. Thanks, frischtr!

    The Blue Jersey is for bike malfunctions only, godspiral. Rider injuries need a new (red?) jersey.

    At the end of the first stage, we have a tie, but Floyd keeps the Blue Jersey:

    Floyd Landis - 3 points
    Vyacheslav Ekimov - 3 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan
    Floyd Landis was awarded one extra point when it was learned that his delay in starting yerterday's prologue was caused by a wheel change. Thanks, frischtr!

    The Blue Jersey is for bike malfunctions only, godspiral. Rider injuries need a new (red?) jersey.

    At the end of the first stage, we have a tie, but Floyd keeps the Blue Jersey:

    Floyd Landis - 3 points
    Vyacheslav Ekimov - 3 points
    What's the tiebreaker that give the jersey to Floyd?

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    What happened to Eki? (My #^&*$ toob has chosen this weekend to go on the fritz.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMF
    What happened to Eki? (My #^&*$ toob has chosen this weekend to go on the fritz.)
    Had a flat during today's stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meb
    What's the tiebreaker that give the jersey to Floyd?
    Just the fact that he has it already. To take the Blue Jersey away from someone, you have to have MORE points than they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan
    Just the fact that he has it already. To take the Blue Jersey away from someone, you have to have MORE points than they do.
    Gonna need a further tiebreaker. Someday the second and third place guys are both going to vault into a lead for the tie past the previous day's leader. Also, how are we going to resolve a tie for third-do both guys end up on the podium?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meb
    Gonna need a further tiebreaker. Someday the second and third place guys are both going to vault into a lead for the tie past the previous day's leader. Also, how are we going to resolve a tie for third-do both guys end up on the podium?
    Well, if that actually happens, I'm counting on you to help resolve the tie. By the way, only one person can wear the Blue Jersey, so there is no reward for second, third, or any other place.
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    The reward would be not to have to wear the jersey. That oughta be enuff.

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    During stage 2 the T-Mobile rider Serhiy Honchar punctured, as did an unidentified Milram rider. Anyone know who it was or have any other malfunctions to report?

    At the end of Stage 2, the competition is heating up, but Floyd Landis keeps the Blue Jersey.

    Standings:
    Floyd Landis - 3 points
    Vyacheslav Ekimov - 3 points
    Serhiy Honchar - 3 points
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan
    Well, if that actually happens, I'm counting on you to help resolve the tie. By the way, only one person can wear the Blue Jersey, so there is no reward for second, third, or any other place.
    C'mon, We gotta have a complete podium.

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    meb - from the looks of your avatar, I can see why you want a complete podium! Malfunctions seem to be your forte'. Do I detect a little jealousy because you cannot compete for the Blue Jersey yourself?

    I propose that when multiple riders have the same number of points, they will be ranked chronologically; that is, the higher ranking goes to him who suffered his malfunction first. That is the way I have been doing it so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan
    meb - from the looks of your avatar, I can see why you want a complete podium! Malfunctions seem to be your forte'. Do I detect a little jealousy because you cannot compete for the Blue Jersey yourself?

    I propose that when multiple riders have the same number of points, they will be ranked chronologically; that is, the higher ranking goes to him who suffered his malfunction first. That is the way I have been doing it so far.
    Sounds good. I think you should include fans gashing open your arm during a sprint in the catagory.

    And Thor should get a point for today's stage for unclipping out of his pedal during the sprint. At least a point....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionKhan
    Sounds good...snip...And Thor should get a point for today's stage for unclipping out of his pedal during the sprint. At least a point....
    Hmm...my first thought regarding the pedal was "User Error", not a malfunction, but I suppose it could have been worn or out of adjustment. It DID malfunction, and it WAS mechanical. According to the original rules posted last year, an adjustment issue that can be resolved by the team mechanic without stopping the bike does qualify for 1 point. So let's give it to him and clarify the rules accordingly:

    Mechanical problem resolved while the bike is moving - 1 point
    Mechanical problem that stops the bike - 2 points
    Flat tire or wheel change - 3 points
    Total bike change - 4 points

    Standings after stage 2:
    Floyd Landis - 3 points (wheel change)
    Vyacheslav Ekimov - 3 points (wheel change)
    Serhiy Honchar - 3 points (wheel change)
    Thor Hushovd - 1 point (cleat unclipped)

    Anyone figure out who the unidentified Milram rider was who had a puncture today?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan
    Hmm...my first thought regarding the pedal was "User Error", not a malfunction, but I suppose it could have been worn or out of adjustment. It DID malfunction, and it WAS mechanical. According to the original rules posted last year, an adjustment issue that can be resolved by the team mechanic without stopping the bike does qualify for 1 point. So let's give it to him and clarify the rules accordingly:

    Mechanical problem resolved while the bike is moving - 1 point
    Mechanical problem that stops the bike - 2 points
    Flat tire or wheel change - 3 points
    Total bike change - 4 points

    Standings after stage 2:
    Floyd Landis - 3 points (wheel change)
    Vyacheslav Ekimov - 3 points (wheel change)
    Serhiy Honchar - 3 points (wheel change)
    Thor Hushovd - 1 point (cleat unclipped)

    Anyone figure out who the unidentified Milram rider was who had a puncture today?
    Any way to weight these points? Somehow the teams with the bigger budgets should get more points when things go wrong... they should have better equipment, more mechanics, etc.

    Punctures are kind of odd for this. I like that Floyd has 3 points for a punture prior to a start, but a puncture during the ride is kind of chance... seems you should be awarding folks who don't take care of equipment, or do stupid stuff with fit / etc.

    Will anyone top Rasmussen from last year? He wracked so many points in that 1 TT he should definitely be tested for illegal substances.

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    We have a new King of the Malfunctions - It's Nicolas Portal

    How did that happen? After searching a few of the on-line race reports with some choice key-words, I discovered he had a problem in Stage 1 that resulted in a bike change. Eki's puncture about an hour later also resulted in a bike change, so here are the revised standings after Stage 2:

    Nicolas Portal - 4 points (bike change after unknown problem)
    Vyacheslav Ekimov - 4 points (bike change after puncture)
    Floyd Landis - 3 points (wheel change)
    Serhiy Honchar - 3 points (wheel change)
    Thor Hushovd - 1 point (cleat unclipped)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan
    meb - from the looks of your avatar, I can see why you want a complete podium! Malfunctions seem to be your forte'. Do I detect a little jealousy because you cannot compete for the Blue Jersey yourself?

    I propose that when multiple riders have the same number of points, they will be ranked chronologically; that is, the higher ranking goes to him who suffered his malfunction first. That is the way I have been doing it so far.

    Perhaps more empathy than jealousy.

    As for most recent first, along those lines, how about the earlier most recent malfunction first, and the next tie breaker the chronologically earliest previous malfunction?

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    We need a ruling....

    What happens when one rider has a flat or other mechanical stoppage and a teammate stops and swaps out a wheel with the other rider. Now that teammate is stopped on the side of the road with a bad wheel until the team car shows up. Do both riders get points? This happened today in todays stage....
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