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    Boy with all the Al bashing I wonder why none of you complaining total idiots who use this forum only to bash other people are not on the air. Maybe just maybe Al is doing a better job than any of you could. I Like OLN's coverage and you better stop complaining as I think this is the last year we see any Cycling on TV in the states.

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    Al is doing a better job than I could. But it's still terrible.


    OLN has two lead announcers. One is recognized in the English-speaking world as the Voice of Cycling. And the other is Al Trautwig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dws5b
    I Like OLN's coverage and you better stop complaining as I think this is the last year we see any Cycling on TV in the states.
    Why do you think this is the last year we see any Cycling on TV in the states?

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    I don't think he's needed. For the classics they use Phil and Paul with occasional commentary by Bob Roll. It works well. Why bring in Al at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badhat
    al trautwig is like... the worst dude

    Al Trautwig is bad, but nearly as bad as when he teams up with Carol Lewis.
    Thankfully she hasn't done any cycling commentating.

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    Since when does religion matter in the TdF?

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    Phil is getting a bit on the older side, he may be retiring soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dws5b
    Boy with all the Al bashing I wonder why none of you complaining total idiots who use this forum only to bash other people are not on the air. Maybe just maybe Al is doing a better job than any of you could. I Like OLN's coverage and you better stop complaining as I think this is the last year we see any Cycling on TV in the states.
    If I get someone who as announced professionally to say Al is pretty weak would you listen? I know a few. Note that so far everyone that has said anyhting has said it about WHAT HE SAYS, not his delivery. He has a good voice and delivery. Much better than mine. If only OLN had a bigger budget so that he always had a teleprompter and did not have to come up with WHAT to say.

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    LOL, not quite, My grandparents are mennonite. The biggest difference is that they live within the "normal" community and can choose what to allow and not allow opposed to the Amish living away from everything and excommunicating people that don't follow their rules.


    +1 Goldfish... It sounds like Floyd's family comes from a very strict Mennonite upbringing.


    p.s: Al Trautwig is a tool and makes Bob Roll look amazing!
    Floyd's family might be strict, but they have been to some of his races- and his mother was even on camera for a few seconds once. They were all dressed up in their best Mennonite and standing next to Floyd. That was weird... but also sweet.

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    man the whole "you couldnt do it better" is the worst damn copout response to criticism. so tired.

    i didnt say icould do it better, it doesnt make me twitch any less to watch him flail about. since when is "i could do it better" a prerequisite to criticize soemone elses performance? PARTICULARLY someone in the broadcasting arena.

    al doesnt have the job cuz hes good, he has the job cuz OLN thought that americans needed a commentator to ask the questiions that casual, non fantatic americans will be asking during the tour. things like "how can you win the tour without winning a stage?", and the like. his qualification for the job IS knowing very little about the sport. its fairly obvious.

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    ^^^^LCD Commentating^^^^
    Lowest Common Denominator, It's brilliant acually.

    Floyd was raised on a Meteorite? Broken telephone commentating.

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    I'd like the three man booth with Phil, Paul, and Bob. Al is a twit. I don't really blame him for his ignorance more then I do the producers, directors, and writers. Hell, a few days a go they were talking about tires, and Bob commented on how the last old tech still used is tubulars instead of clincher. Al asks, "What's a clincher?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by koffee brown
    Floyd's family might be strict, but they have been to some of his races- and his mother was even on camera for a few seconds once. ...
    I recall a couple of years ago (last year maybe?) hearing that his mother didn't have a TV, so was taken somewhere to see him race in the TdF.

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    I think it was last year in the T de F, but I also think she was there for the T of C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koffee brown
    Floyd's family might be strict, but they have been to some of his races- and his mother was even on camera for a few seconds once. They were all dressed up in their best Mennonite and standing next to Floyd. That was weird... but also sweet.

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    I can believe that they are sweet..... most Mennonites are very non-confrontational and do not say anything that could offend someone. My grandparents are just like that, they are very quiet and when I come over to mow the yard or do other landscaping they are always “whatever you think”....”do what is easiest” etc.


    Nice response badhat: As much as I do not care for Al's commentating it is necessary for people that do not know a lot about cycling to learn from his sometimes "dumb" comments.

    dws5b..... chill out. Don't get soo offended over someone's opinion..... it is the internet :
    p My only problem with Al is I don't feel Al is needed..... He only every shows up for the TDF and some domestic races..... I personally would rather hear Phil and Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKahrl
    Bob Roll got my respect last year when he opened a bottle of champagne with a sword on the first try. I've opened champange bottles and worked the manual at arms with a sword but Bob must have attended some way more awesome parties than me where you'd have to bring those two skills together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson
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    I too am well versed in the manual of arms with a sword. But I salute Bob for his feat. My most amazing feat while praticing the manual of arms with sword was to almost cut my ear off!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way I kinda like His Wierdness Bob, tolerate Al and enjoy Phil and Paul

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    It's not uncommon for modern Mennonites to consider themselves Amish since it's a less strict sect of being Amish. From what I've been told by a Mennonite friend (Short, from Lancaster ), the Amish sect was started as a result in a split of the Mennonite church and the more strict part of the split became the Amish. The differences between the two groups are very involved so it's not a horrendous error to get them mixed up.

    Also, I've been reading about Landis being Amish and/or Mennonite in the press since about 2002 or so; so Trautwig isn't the only one saying that. He still sucks though, he's just not as wrong as you would like.

    Ironically, Mennonite people live a life of peace-making and wouldn't give a thought to being so angry at someone for such an error.

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    I don't know. Imagine if he'd said that Floyd was raised Catholic when he was actually raised Lutheran. You know and I know that there's not that much difference (other than that whole grace v. good works and transubstantiation thing) but imagine the hubbub that would raise. In certain parts of the Midwestern USA, that would be a good way to start a fistfight.
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