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Old 07-11-06, 10:14 PM   #26
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Y'all would not believe how funny it is to have a bunch of Americans criticising Phil's pronounciation. He is like totally Queen's English.
Most of us are not criticizing his pronunciation of "Queen's English" words. After all, most of us on this side of the Atlantic mispronounce even the simple word "kilometer" when compared to the rest of the world. We are criticizing his pronunciation of riders' names. A person's name correctly spoken (as THEY would do it) should not have to conform to the "Queen's English."
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Old 07-11-06, 10:17 PM   #27
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Y'all would not believe how funny it is to have a bunch of Americans criticising Phil's pronounciation. He is like totally Queen's English.
We can also criticize you for replacing your z's (no, not zets) with s's.
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Old 07-11-06, 10:35 PM   #28
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By the way, it absolutely drives me crazy when baseball announcers do this.. Eric Chavez (That's sha-vez not cha-vez) is the most egregious example. I mean, even Dodgers announcers, playing in a park nicknamed "Chavez (sha-vez) Ravine" screw up the poor guy's name.
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Aren't the beans 'bohnen'?
In German yes. For Dutch I looked it up in Altavista. Was hoping for a Dutch friend here to confirm???
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Old 07-12-06, 04:33 AM   #30
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We can also criticize you for replacing your z's (no, not zets) with s's.
they are 'Zeds' ya corkhead!...certainly not Zee's....you blokes need to speak proper, get an edumacation will ya!
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Old 07-12-06, 06:33 AM   #31
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Seriously, what's Phil's accent? And Paul's?
Mock Southern. That bloke Bell that writes in Cycling Weekly is always taking the piss out of Sherwin and Liggett for not speaking in their 'native' Northern accents.

One of the poms on the forum should be able to tell you. Most Poms can identiy a regional accent to within about 5km of where it originated in England in my experience.
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In German yes. For Dutch I looked it up in Altavista. Was hoping for a Dutch friend here to confirm???
True re German, but I left there in 1948.

Actually, I think I remember "boenen" from when I lived in The Netherlands. But ... he is Belgian, so it would probably be Flemish anyway, which differs in many ways from Dutch.
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Accents: Phils is Brit. Paul's is SuidAfrikaans/Brit. My first English was indeed the 'king's English', a tad different than some of the American dialects . . . whether it's Brooklynese or Missouran or Minnesotan.
Being multilingual (mother tongue is Flemish) Bow-nen would be the correct pronunciation; however there are several dialects within the Flemish language and Bone-en could be another way of pronouncing it.
Boonen does mean "beans" in Dutch . . . and yes, Dutch is sorta similar to Flemish.
It is rather difficult sometimes those pronounce foreign names . . . I know, I've go one of them!
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I know Phil is a Brit. What part of the Isle is his accent though.
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I like how Phil & Paul Jan (phonetically) "Jan Ullrick" , when it is closer to "Jan Ullreesh"
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Old 07-12-06, 06:35 PM   #36
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Accents: Phils is Brit. Paul's is SuidAfrikaans/Brit. My first English was indeed the 'king's English', a tad different than some of the American dialects . . . whether it's Brooklynese or Missouran or Minnesotan.
Being multilingual (mother tongue is Flemish) Bow-nen would be the correct pronunciation; however there are several dialects within the Flemish language and Bone-en could be another way of pronouncing it.
Boonen does mean "beans" in Dutch . . . and yes, Dutch is sorta similar to Flemish.
It is rather difficult sometimes those pronounce foreign names . . . I know, I've go one of them!
Paul does not speak with an Afrikaans accent.
he is a whenwe, from what was known as Rhodesia
now Zimbabwe, although he may have emmigrated to
South Africa (which is why he is a whenwe. . .when we lived in Rhodesia. . . )
Engelsman.
Zonatandem is foreign? I never knew.
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I like how Phil & Paul Jan (phonetically) "Jan Ullrick" , when it is closer to "Jan Ullreesh"
Depends on what part of Germany you are from. They have very different dialects in different regions. Ullreesh would be more northern.
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Seriously, what's Phil's accent? And Paul's?
Pure pomgolian English.
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