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Old 07-13-06, 10:00 AM
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I think today's stage (11) and leipheimer cutting his deficit to 05' 39" from 10' 28". I doubt he can pull back Landis but Landis has to make it to Paris (dead hip and all). Identified contenders have already dropped (Mayo?), simply finishing the TdF is amazing (both because of luck and endurance). It's not over until Paris.

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Old 07-13-06, 10:19 AM
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Be nicer to Levi, his off-season home sits in the Rogers Creek Fault zone. The USGS has declared that fault most likely in the SF area to have a major quake in the near future.
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Old 07-13-06, 10:33 AM
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His choice. I imagine that its torture to live in Santa Rosa in the off season.
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Old 07-13-06, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Trevor98
I think today's stage (11) and leipheimer cutting his deficit to 05' 39" from 10' 28". I doubt he can pull back Landis but Landis has to make it to Paris (dead hip and all). Identified contenders have already dropped (Mayo?), simply finishing the TdF is amazing (both because of luck and endurance). It's not over until Paris.
Yes, at the rate he's pulling back time if Floyd fails Levi will only need another 15 mountain stages to reel back in Sastre and Evans. Of course he'll need to hire Superman to spin the earth backwards to make time on Menchov, who gained time on him today, but hey, anything can happen.

Unless he's got a pocket full of Kryptonite, he'll be lucky to make it into 5th or 6th.

Mayo a contender? Are you Basque? Check the date on that Tour guide please.
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Old 07-13-06, 01:50 PM
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Closest was 8 seconds, not 80. If Marco (God rest his soul) were 90 seconds back at this point he would be in great shape. But if an all rounder or someone whose strength is the TT then that rider is in big trouble.
Marco would just take more dope. Pantani's "all roundedness" was likely due to the plethora of doping he did.

This is the weirdest TDF ever, and the strangest racing of the last three years. Amazing what a doping investigation will do.

People can finally shutup about Mayo, Leipheimer, and Hincapie. It ain't gonna happen.
Still no explanation for Voigt's poor finishes.
 
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Originally Posted by DocRay
People can finally shutup about Mayo, Leipheimer, and Hincapie. It ain't gonna happen.
Still no explanation for Voigt's poor finishes.

I think Leipheimer could possibly pull out a stage win (particularly if Menchov, Sastre, Evans, Landis get too cute marking each other in the Alps), and a very outside chance of crawling on the podium. (although 5th -8th is probably more realistic.) Depends on which Levi shows up in the Alps.
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Originally Posted by Trevor98
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I think today's stage (11) and leipheimer cutting his deficit to 05' 39" from 10' 28". I doubt he can pull back Landis but Landis has to make it to Paris (dead hip and all). Identified contenders have already dropped (Mayo?), simply finishing the TdF is amazing (both because of luck and endurance). It's not over until Paris.

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He pulled back at most 2 minutes on any of the contenders. 4 seconds on Floud and only 29 seconds on the next 2. If he continues he has a chance to podium, but little more barring a crash.
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Old 07-13-06, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by adamastor
I saw yesterday's first stage in the Pyrenees, and leipheimer didn't look good at all. Always being dropped by a peloton of 50+ men. Historically I do not remember a guy being so bad in first mountain stage, recovering miraculously in the Alpes.

I think Leipheimer will lose loads of minutes in today's hard stage to Spain. Another disappointment on Gerolsteiner was the young hope Fothen. I just wonder if whatever Gerolsteiner is on (legal or illegal) was properly timed for this Tour de France.
wow, wrong answer !
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Old 07-13-06, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Trevor98
His choice. I imagine that its torture to live in Santa Rosa in the off season.
As long as he doesn't bike in Santa Rosa, there are plenty of nice rides near here.

That said, I'm getting the hell out of this place in mid-autumn! Thailand, here I come!
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Old 07-14-06, 03:09 AM
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I saw yesterday's first stage in the Pyrenees, and leipheimer didn't look good at all. Always being dropped by a peloton of 50+ men. Historically I do not remember a guy being so bad in first mountain stage, recovering miraculously in the Alpes.

I think Leipheimer will lose loads of minutes in today's hard stage to Spain. Another disappointment on Gerolsteiner was the young hope Fothen. I just wonder if whatever Gerolsteiner is on (legal or illegal) was properly timed for this Tour de France.


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wow, wrong answer !
Yepp, totally. Just wonder who that nobody was
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Old 07-18-06, 02:05 PM
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The only serious GC guys that beat Levi today on the Alpe d'Huez are Floyd, Kloden and Sastre. He moved up to 9th.

[tt]
GC
1 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak 69.00.05 (41.535 km/h)
2 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.10
3 Cyril Dessel (Fra) AG2R-Prevoyance 2.02
4 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2.12
5 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 2.17
6 Andreas Klöden (Ger) T-Mobile 2.29
7 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 2.56
8 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile 5.01
9 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 6.18
[/tt]
To get in 5th Levi needs to not lose enough time to anyone behind such that they pass him, and gain the following time on any four of the following seven:
  • 1:18 on Rogers (Levi got a minute on him today, very doable)
  • 3:22 on Cadel (Also got a minute today, with two more mountain stages, maybe...)
  • 3:50 on Klöden (not likely, based on today)
  • 4:02 on Sastre (also not likely)
  • 4:06 on Menchov (only got 30 seconds today, but Menchov looked cooked, so he might lose even more time tomorrow)
  • 4:17 on Cyril Dessel (very possible; Dessel lost 1:15 to Levi today)
  • 6:06 on Pereiro (possible, but Pereiro lost only a minute to Levi today)
The 4 he's most likely to catch are probably: Dessel, Rogers, Cadel and either Menchov or Pereiro, assuming one of them cracks in the next couple of days. I don't see him catching Klöden, or Sastre on GC.

So, I'd say his odds of getting in the top 5 are about 50/50 at this point.

Of course, there is the wild card of the final TT. If he loses 5 minutes again all bets are off. On the other hand, if whatever slowed him down so much in the prologue, the first TT and the first mountain stage is resolved, and he has the TT of his life, we can't even rule out the podium for him yet.
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Dang you HH... may the *spoiler* patrol beat you with a smelly fish.
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Originally Posted by user0ne
wow, wrong answer !

No, wrong timing, hahahaha
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