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    Sunday NYT Magazine Article on Landis

    Good read here. (Free registration required, I think.)
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    *still reading...*

    interesting and very real possibility: landis or his wife may have been on this very forum - under a pseudonym, of course - asking if any cyclists had returned to racing after hip replacement surgery....

    would have been sometime in late 2004 or early 2005?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ostuni
    *still reading...*

    interesting and very real possibility: landis or his wife may have been on this very forum - under a pseudonym, of course - asking if any cyclists had returned to racing after hip replacement surgery....

    would have been sometime in late 2004 or early 2005?
    Maybe that explains why Floyd flipped his stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classic1
    Maybe that explains why Floyd flipped his stem.
    it does explain his TT position!

    just tried copying it into the thread but it's too long...

    great article. written by author of 'lance armstrong's war'...
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    Landis plans to schedule his hip replacement surgery for a few weeks after the Tour de France, to give himself maximum time to train for the following year’s race. While Landis’s position with Phonak appears secure for the near future (he has an option on his contract through 2007), the level of his post-operation performance is an open question. “We’re completely in unknown territory,” said Chao, pointing out that when Bo Jackson briefly returned to baseball after his hip replacement, Jackson, formerly one of the league’s fastest players, slowed noticeably. “In baseball, you can lose speed and still perform, but that might be harder in cycling,” Chao went on. “On the other hand, the thing going for us is that Floyd’s sport is not impact-loading like baseball or football, so the replacement won’t loosen. And also of course that he’s Floyd.”
    Settles that question - he intends to try and compete in 2007.

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    nteresting and very real possibility: landis or his wife may have been on this very forum - under a pseudonym, of course - asking if any cyclists had returned to racing after hip replacement surgery....

    would have been sometime in late 2004 or early 2005?

    I did a search using our search feature and didn't find anything. I did find this on a mountain bike forum. His accident was in January 2003. Probably not Landis, but who knows?

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    does anyone ride dh or hard xc with a hip replacement.i have a fully loaded foes fly and a tracer.i know in my hart that my dhing days with the 40+pound fly might be over with, or are they ? i am trying to hold out until next season to get my 41 year old hip replaced but the pain is getting to bad. is it worth holding out 4 one more season or sell the bike.



    http://archive.mtbr.com/09/0EFDCF06.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritterview
    I did a search using our search feature and didn't find anything. I did find this on a mountain bike forum. His accident was in January 2003. Probably not Landis, but who knows?

    ...

    i am trying to hold out until next season to get my 41 year old hip replaced

    ...
    he's 30 and he doesn't ride a downhill bike

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    he's 30 and he doesn't ride a downhill bike
    Uh, I'm figuring to eliminate the possibilty of being found out, he would change every detail about himself on the post. Different age, type of cycling etc. Being a former mountain biker, he would enquire on a mountain biking board as one of them. I wouldn't expect a post along the lines of:

    "I am a 29 year old cyclist on the UCI Pro Tour, and in January 2003 I broke my hip on a training ride in San Diego. My new Swiss team I'm leading doesn't even know!..."

    What makes the post almost surely not Landis is the 2003 date. According to the NYT article is was in November 2004 that Landis was diagnosed with avascular necrosis and was exploring his options.

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    Could this post be the one of the pseudonymous queries? The user is a female and had just 1 post.

    hip replacement surgery
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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy
    Could this post be the one of the pseudonymous queries? The user is a female and had just 1 post.

    hip replacement surgery
    doubt it.

    the post is too recent (going by the timetable the article suggests), and it does not sound like the kind of info they were after (specific question regarding a return to racing after hip replacement..)

    according to the article, they found no information on any racer who had come back from the surgery....
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    Hehe... this is funny. If a UCI ProTour rider came onto BF looking for advice about racing after a hip replacement, we've reached a sad state of affairs.

    I can see the press conference now--"We have no way of proving it, but Biker1234 on Bike Forums said he rode after a hip replacement with no problem."

    I'm guessing he probably had more reliable sources to go with...

    DrPete

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    Hehe... this is funny. If a UCI ProTour rider came onto BF looking for advice about racing after a hip replacement, we've reached a sad state of affairs.

    I can see the press conference now--"We have no way of proving it, but Biker1234 on Bike Forums said he rode after a hip replacement with no problem."

    I'm guessing he probably had more reliable sources to go with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPete
    Hehe... this is funny. If a UCI ProTour rider came onto BF looking for advice about racing after a hip replacement, we've reached a sad state of affairs....
    i think it represents a fine state of affairs.

    name a better place to freely and instantly access the knowledge and experience of 60,000 plus cyclists from around the world? (especially when you want to do so confidentially from the privacy of your own home...)

    the bit about 'biker1234' is funny, but they likely just were looking for information with which to better understand and evaluate the 'advice' they would receive from their doctors....
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    alright, i'll 'fess up. i'm floyd landis.
    ". . .a striped jersey under his jacket; bared calves (outside the bicycle track); cap pushed back; feet in a false position on the pedals; a barking horn, a disorderly appearance, an always-dry tongue, and a definite fondness for wine merchants. . ."

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunop
    alright, i'll 'fess up. i'm floyd landis.
    No you're not, I'M floyd landis.
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    Considering Floyd Landis is currently racing up the side of a mountain somewhere in the Alps right now - neither one of you are Floyd Landis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda2k
    Considering Floyd Landis is currently racing up the side of a mountain somewhere in the Alps right now - neither one of you are Floyd Landis.
    floyd <huff> here... using <puff> a bluetooth device to post from <grunt> the bike....
    Last edited by Ostuni; 07-18-06 at 08:30 AM.
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