lol omg!Originally Posted by lotek
lol omg!Originally Posted by lotek
Maybe Jan should call up the Liion King and see about starting a joint venture with him. Being the two most publicized cyclists in Europe for the past 10 years, you'd think it wouldn't be hard for them to turn their names to gold.
The search for inner peace continues...
I doubt that guilt or innocence has anything to do with it. Most people in the public eye have language in their contracts that allow the contracts to be voided if the person brings discredit to the employer or sponsors. He certainly did that. Whether he doped or not is another issue. I can't imagine what other reason he had for going to a Spanish doctor known for supplying these things when the team has competent medical support.Originally Posted by StalkerZERO
Since his contract was terminated based on a legal clause in the contract, having it communicated by a lawyer makes sense to me.
I give the UIC and the cycling teams credit for going after doping in a serious way. I wish Major League Baseball would do the same thing. Personally, I still think Roger Maris owns the "real" home run record. Who needs to have these sports sullied by cheaters. To me Ullrich is a cheater. His cycling accomplishements are meaningless to me for that reason. I won't miss him and I won't defend him. T Mobile did the right thing in the right way.
Marty, you forgot to add the part where they're able to enjoy the Croissants because he's not around to eat them all before anyone else gets any. I still like the alternative text message version. "Jan, U r axed"
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Might not be anything massive yet. They don't want the team to be completely dismantled and sponsors running. Ask Vinnie.Originally Posted by lotek
i guess you can say ullrich got.........
Originally Posted by USAZorro
now why would cipo align himself with a dope cheat when he's already a major celebrity?
and soon ullrich will be FFL (fat for life) .
Uh, that's German for "The Boat."Originally Posted by erader
But he may have gotten one...
oh really ?Originally Posted by DrPete
i have always wondered why they would call a u-boat a boot .
Getting fired by T Mobile is irrelevant. If Uhllirch can't beat the Operation Puerto allegation, his career is over. (particularly considering a 4 year ban from the Pro Tour) If he does beat it, he can find many teams to give him a contract.
Press release from the T-Mobile Website
Sevilla also sacked!
21.07.2006/ The Olaf Ludwig Cycling GmbH (OLC) has terminated, in exceptional circumstances and with immediate effect, the contracts of professional cyclists Jan Ullrich (32/Germany) and Oscar Sevilla (29/Spain). T-Mobile International AG have also set in motion a process, which would make any letter of intent regarding Jan Ullrich’s post-racing career non-binding.
In late June Spanish investigators submitted a document that provided clear evidence that Jan Ullrich und Oscar Sevilla had tried to boost their performance through the use of banned substances. Directly after their subsequent suspension, Ullrich and Sevilla declared their intent to prove their innocence. However, right up until the time their contracts were terminated by T-Mobile and the OLC, neither had brought forward any information to exonerate themselves.
„As Jan Ullrich and Oscar Sevilla didn’t make any moves to prove their innocence, terminating their contracts was the logical and necessary follow-up to their suspension,“ says Olaf Ludwig, T-Mobile Team manager. „We are all disappointed that we had to take this course of action. However, based on the information available, no other decision was open to us“, says Christian Frommert, director of Sports communication for T-Mobile International.
In early 2004 T-Mobile International agreed to pursue a working relationship with Jan Ullrich for the period after the 1997 Tour winner’s retirement from active bike racing. However, through the exceptional and immediate termination of Ulrich’s contract, which was set to run until the end of 2006, T-Mobile International also now distances itself from this agreement.
„We respect Jan Ullrich’s view, in a constitutional state he, the same as everyone else, is presumed innocent until there exists proof to the contrary,“ says Frommert. „But sport, and cycling in particular, places certain ethical, moral and contractual obligations on the riders “ For this reason we believe it was necessary for Ullrich to actively cooperate with us to prove his innocence, adds Olaf Ludwig.
Spanish investigators uncovered in May a Madrid-based doping network, which led to the arrest of sports doctor Eufemiano Fuentes among others. Evidence uncovered in house raids, intercepted telephone calls and SMS records have clearly pointed towards the involvement of Jan Ullrich, Oscar Sevilla and Rudy Pevenage in the doping scandal. Pevenage, the former T-Mobile Team sporting director and long time mentor to Jan Ullrich already had his contract terminated by OLC in early July.
Originally Posted by erader
Man, he's not even proven guilty and the fat Jan jokes start flying. Sad.
I only wonder if Floyd will receive this treatment if he's found to be a doper. After all, he did recover a bit too quickly from that awful day, didn't he?
i may have overreacted
Originally Posted by Laggard
yep. i think they all dope at that level. if they are stupid enough to get busted they won't be spared my wrath .
DittoOriginally Posted by erader
I say he's lucky they sent him a fax and not a summons to court for fraud.
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Originally Posted by Laggard
The guy is a mennonite, theres no way he's doping. He's the honest abe of the peleton.
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Originally Posted by AtlAllez
. . .or at least he understands the wages-of-sin.
Pretty dumb to go on about getting a fax instead of what? a letter with a wax seal on a tear-stained envelope. The guy would want to hear it first before the rags went to press with the scoop. If he's got a contract, the notice requirements will be spelled out there very well. As if how you're notified is the issue anyway. It's not like Ulrich has a 9-5 job and ever expected to be called into HR on Monday.
Last edited by wagathon; 07-21-06 at 10:35 PM.
Pretty dumb to go on about getting a fax instead of what? a letter with a wax seal on a tear-stained envelope. The guy would want to hear it first before the rags went to press with the scoop.
If he's got a contract, the notice requirements will be spelled out there very well. As if how you're notified is the issue anyway.
It's not like Ulrich has a 9-5 job and expected to be called into HR on Monday. Ulrich's fans spit on Lance in '04 but Ulrich is a great sportsman. I hope he can somehow come back to the sport but it sure seems like this year was his best shot at the Tour.