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ReedZ 07-21-06 07:41 AM

NEWSFLASH: Jan Ullrich
 
from Eurosport.com

NEWSFLASH: Jan Ullrich has been fired by his team T-Mobile following his recent implication in the Operacion Puerto blood doping scandal, according to german news agency SID. The German 1997 Tour winner is said to be in denial, but directeur sportif Olaf Ludwig has confirmed the news.

14max 07-21-06 07:44 AM

I just read this on Yahoo! Sports. Man, when it rains...

pathdoc 07-21-06 07:51 AM

Its hard to believe. Sad way to end a career.

erader 07-21-06 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pathdoc
Its hard to believe. Sad way to end a career.


ullrich was finished long ago. der kaiser would rather eat knackwurst and take ecstacy in the off-season than prepare for the next season. ullrich was the one racer who had the natural talent to possibly beat armstrong.

i'd say it is a pretty fitting end even tho i like the guy.

ed rader

cuda2k 07-21-06 08:39 AM

Eurosport is taking pot shots at Jan as well:

The leaders whizz past some Mâcon vinyards, and a huge water tower. That water tower is truly the Jan-Ullrich-Off-Season of all water towers... a monumental girth.

Hitchy 07-21-06 08:43 AM

....sad end to an all time great.....but for the coincidence of his career & lance's colliding , who knows........BTW, he woulda won this TDF by a week! (but I'm no apologist for dopers...rub 'em all out I say)

ReedZ 07-21-06 08:53 AM

Eurosport - J.Stahl - 21/07/2006 16:42

T-Mobile sacked Jan Ullrich, their star rider of ten years, by fax for his involvement in Spain's doping probe, the rider said on his website on Friday. Ullrich, who was suspended from riding in the Tour de France, said that he was "disappointed" and that his lawyers would contest the decision.

"I am very disappointed about the fact the decision was not communicated to me personally but by T-Mobile's lawyers in a fax," Ullrich was quoted as saying. "The dismissal by T-Mobile is not acceptable for me."

"I think it's a shame that I have given so many years of good service and for all that I have done for the team, that I be seen as just a fax number."

According to German news agency SID, T-Mobile manager Olaf Ludwig confirmed that the Magenta had given the 1997 Tour de France winner the axe.

Ullrich's agent Wolfgang Strohband said on the rider's site that, "the termination is groundless."

The 32-year-old Ullrich, who has protested his innocence in the "Operacion Puerto" doping investigation, and T-Mobile are planning a meeting for next week to come to some sort of an agreement.

If an accord cannot be reached, Ullrich said he would be represented by Dr. Ulrich Theune, an attorney who promised, "The termination will not hold up."

The German rode for T-Mobile squad from 1995-2002, when it was called Telekom, then took one year riding with Bianchi in 2003, before returning to T-Mobile, where he has remained since 2004.

RoadToad 07-21-06 08:58 AM

Basso next???

cuda2k 07-21-06 09:06 AM

That was pretty heartless of T-Mobile to do it over Fax. I mean, cold man, very very cold.

/should have been a Text Message over his T-Mobile phone instead!

substructure 07-21-06 09:08 AM

Got the axe by fax! How inconsiderate. Lowlife scum lawyer.

Remins me of a Full Metal Jacket quote:
"I'll bet you're the kinda guy that would <bleep> a person in the <bleep> and not even have the <Bobke expletive> common courtesy to give him a reach-around."

How pathetic.

OrionKhan 07-21-06 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoadToad
Basso next???

Probably not. He's just coming into his prime. Even if he did get canned, someone would probaby pick him up.

erader 07-21-06 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitchy
....sad end to an all time great.....but for the coincidence of his career & lance's colliding , who knows........BTW, he woulda won this TDF by a week! (but I'm no apologist for dopers...rub 'em all out I say)


ullrich's career also collided with riis in '96 and pantani in '98. ullrich hit the discos in the winter and got fat and his team didn't respect him. ullrich squandered his talent and now he's finished.

you think his bikes will sell :eek: ?

ed rader

DrPete 07-21-06 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrionKhan
Probably not. He's just coming into his prime. Even if he did get canned, someone would probaby pick him up.

Hehe... Astana-Wurth. :D

DrPete

erader 07-21-06 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by substructure
Got the axe by fax! How inconsiderate. Lowlife scum lawyer.

Remins me of a Full Metal Jacket quote:
"I'll bet you're the kinda guy that would <bleep> a person in the <bleep> and not even have the <Bobke expletive> common courtesy to give him a reach-around."

How pathetic.

ullrich's dope bust hurt the team and he thinks he derves better than a fax?

sounds like another tyler hamilton crybaby to me.

ed rader

Hitchy 07-21-06 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erader
ullrich's career also collided with riis in '96 and pantani in '98. ullrich hit the discos in the winter and got fat and his team didn't respect him. ullrich squandered his talent and now he's finished.

you think his bikes will sell :eek: ?


ed rader

...more so than yours!....you seppo's will buy anything...look at 10/2 rubbish

erader 07-21-06 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitchy
...more so than yours!....you seppo's will buy anything...look at 10/2 rubbish

that means you'll prolly buy 5-6 or six of them in honor of your fallen hero :D :D :D .

ed rader

substructure 07-21-06 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erader
ullrich's dope bust hurt the team and he thinks he derves better than a fax?

sounds like another tyler hamilton crybaby to me.

ed rader


Oh, I'm not saying the team should hold on to him. I just think they should have went to him straight up and canned him.

voltman 07-21-06 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitchy
...more so than yours!....you seppo's will buy anything...look at 10/2 rubbish

Oh no! Cancer research!

flipped4bikes 07-21-06 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by substructure
Oh, I'm not saying the team should hold on to him. I just think they should have went to him straight up and canned him.

Don't like Ullrich, but gotta agree with that. If you're firing someone on reasonable grounds, you really should just tell him face-to-face. It's never easy, but the honorable thing to do...

StalkerZERO 07-21-06 10:02 AM

Excuse me but umm.....I dunno how it is in europe but shouldn't there still be due process in progress? I mean hes been implicated but not convicted of anything yet right? Yet they go and fire their star rider of 10 years.....by fax no less?
.......thats just not right! :(

erader 07-21-06 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipped4bikes
Don't like Ullrich, but gotta agree with that. If you're firing someone on reasonable grounds, you really should just tell him face-to-face. It's never easy, but the honorable thing to do...

not doping and being responsible to your sponsors and team are the honorable things to do.

ullrich got what he deserved. fuggem.

ed rader

cuda2k 07-21-06 11:00 AM

T-mobile's management were probably a bit scared to tell Ullrich to his face to be honest. The guy calls himself the 'crusher of souls' for pete sakes. Big German guy who's been off his meds for a few weeks. I wouldn't want to piss him off either by giving him the axe.

/ok, maybe not text message... T-mobile... so, phone call?

Greg180 07-21-06 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erader
not doping and being responsible to your sponsors and team are the honorable things to do.

ullrich got what he deserved. fuggem.

ed rader

+1 Ullrich lied to his team, team management and the people that write the checks. What comes around goes around...he owed them the truth when theyasked for it.

HWS 07-21-06 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StalkerZERO
Excuse me but umm.....I dunno how it is in europe but shouldn't there still be due process in progress? I mean hes been implicated but not convicted of anything yet right? Yet they go and fire their star rider of 10 years.....by fax no less?
.......thats just not right! :(


He was fired. Not imprisoned. Seems to me that T-Mobile is pretty sure of his guilt.

lotek 07-21-06 11:41 AM

I imagine the email went something like this:
Quote:

Der Jan,

We are having a wonderful time here in France, Klodie looks good for
the top 5 maybe even a podium position if all goes well. We have
been enjoying the Croissants but miss der strudel
by the way, you're fired.

Regards from France,
Management.
I would imagine that the team management is in france right about now,
so an email almost makes sense. Doesn't make it any easier but it's
a thought.
It will be interesting to see exactly what the evidence is that pushed them
to the final decision, but given jan was probably going to retire this isn't
exactly shocking.

marty


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