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    F Armstrong and his hidden dope usage. Consulting with dope doctor Ferrari all these years and beating the tests gets you 1 thing. Actually 7 things. And there should be an asterik right next to all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellweatherman
    ... Actually 7 things. And there should be an asterik right next to all of them.
    I used to work with a guy who said things like "Those stupid son of a bachelors," and it really annoyed me. It could be "Sons of a bachelor" or "sons of bachelors" but NEVER "son of a bachelors."

    So, I know what an "asterisk" is, but what on earth is an "asterik?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by bellweatherman
    Dude. Get real. Lance DID test positive. On more than one occasion. He got off on a technicality. Dude has more ex-teamates that says he's used EPO than anybody. Don't you know he's consulted with Dr Ferrari (the dope doc) for all those years? He's got some asteriks next to all those Tour wins in alot of people's eye.
    Don't forget all his ex-teammates that are getting caught these days--Hamilton, Hincappie, Landis.

    Also, you need to include Lance's infamous "zip the lips" gesture to Simeoni over the whole Ferrari debacle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H20.1
    Don't forget all his ex-teammates that are getting caught these days--Hamilton, Hincappie, Landis....
    Hincapie? Have a source for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro
    Hincapie? Have a source for that?
    Hincapie, one of THE worst climbers in the pro peleton. A big gear masher. A pseudo sprinter. And then, one year he puts f'ing 20 minutes into THE best climbers in the world. Yeah right! I'm more apt to believe that Bary Bonds gained 30 pounds of muscle over the course of his 10+ year career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellweatherman
    Hincapie, one of THE worst climbers in the pro peleton. A big gear masher. A pseudo sprinter. And then, one year he puts f'ing 20 minutes into THE best climbers in the world. Yeah right! I'm more apt to believe that Bary Bonds gained 30 pounds of muscle over the course of his 10+ year career.

    What I thought - just innuendo. He got into an early break that stayed out and sat on wheels all day, while back in the peleton, the gc contenders were playing tactics. Nothing gets past your keen powers of observation does it.

    A guy has one great day over the course of 10? tours after working on his climbing for a couple of seasons, and despite the obviously negative test, and the unusual circumstances on the stage, you're out pointing accusatory fingers. Take your little witch-hunt elsewhere.
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    "A guy has one great day over the course of 10? tours after working on his climbing for a couple of seasons, and despite the obviously negative test, and the unusual circumstances on the stage, you're out pointing accusatory fingers. Take your little witch-hunt elsewhere."

    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellweatherman
    Hincapie, one of THE worst climbers in the pro peleton. A big gear masher. A pseudo sprinter. And then, one year he puts f'ing 20 minutes into THE best climbers in the world. Yeah right! I'm more apt to believe that Bary Bonds gained 30 pounds of muscle over the course of his 10+ year career.
    Didnt he win stage 15 in last years tour? Wouldnt he be automatically tested afterwards? Im sure we would've heard about it if it showed up positive.

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    I think Hincapie had a huge advantage in that stage because Pereiro did all the work. It was just a lucky day. Unfortunately, the media built it up until it seemed he was an actually a GC contender. I think he actually started to believe it himself.

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    Yeah, and the year previous Hincapie was leading Armstrong up f-ing 3 mountain passes of Hors Categorie and riding Ullrich, even Heras, and others off his wheel. Bull****. No way. No F-ing way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellweatherman
    Yeah, and the year previous Hincapie was leading Armstrong up f-ing 3 mountain passes of Hors Categorie and riding Ullrich, even Heras, and others off his wheel. Bull****. No way. No F-ing way.
    You really have to consider what happened on the previous few days, and also what happened to Hincapie after the leadout. I think if you go back and look, you'll either find that the guys who got dropped were following up really tough days, or that the guys who led Lance out were much fresher on the stage, or effectively ended their stage right after taking their big turn at the front.

    The fact that a domestique can put a hurting on some GC contenders for a day or two a couple weeks into a grand tour, doesn't in and of itself mean doping is involved. It's much more indicative of how hard it is to be a top contender in the GC. Unless you're talking about Eddie in the '70's, top GC men aren't going to be in the top 3 on every stage. That's just reality.
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