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Old 07-13-07, 12:22 PM   #1
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Looks like it will be another painful day in the saddle for the peloton! Any predictions on what will happen during the stage?
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Any predictions on what will happen during the stage?
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If Rasmussen gets away again he might end up winning the whole tour.
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37km descending to the finish... How fast/technical is it? Is the peloton going to have a big enough advantage to reel in any small breaks or individual riders on the way down to the finish?
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Not going to happen.

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Why not?
Unless he cracks the overall GC contenders on the climbs, it is rather doubtful they are going to let him go.
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How fast/technical is it?
The bit down from Galibier to Lautaret (8km or so) is quite technical. The last 20 or 30 km is not too steep and on a good sized road, so pretty fast.
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how much do you know about bike racing?

if you think he's going to be allowed to ride away a 2nd time from the peloton, obviously not much.
I agree, however, I think that you overestimate the intelligence of the peloton. I think they could let him walk away with it while they play circle jerk.

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I agree, however, I think that you overestimate the intelligence of the peloton. I think they could let him walk away with it while they play circle jerk.
I am pretty sure the peloton would want to involve him in the circle jerk festivities!
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This stage is better suited for rasmussen to grab 5 minutes at the top than the last. Rest day should help. He just needs to hang until the final climb. Most of the field will go up @ 10kmh-ish
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I will have to say no to that. The long downhill finish should keep the GC's together pretty much.

I will be interested to see how he defends yellow, and whether he still goes for KOM points.

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This stage is better suited for rasmussen to grab 5 minutes at the top than the last. Rest day should help. He just needs to hang until the final climb. Most of the field will go up @ 10kmh-ish
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This stage is better suited for rasmussen to grab 5 minutes at the top than the last. Rest day should help. He just needs to hang until the final climb. Most of the field will go up @ 10kmh-ish
With over 35k from the top of the climb that's not going to happen. Forget the intelligence of the peloton, Rasmussen's intelligence will tell him to conserve energy and wait for stage 14.
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nasty stage...erk.
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With over 35k from the top of the climb that's not going to happen. Forget the intelligence of the peloton, Rasmussen's intelligence will tell him to conserve energy and wait for stage 14.
+5 (didn't notice the length of downhill)

If there is a breakaway ahead, he could reach them and descend with them, and they'd probably cooperate knowing Ras can't sprint at the end.
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Wait a second.

I've been watching bits and pieces of a bunch of different broadcasts and re-broadcasts all week.

But why am I listening to Phil and Paul at 10:30 at night? I swear I was watching Bob and Al laugh at each other at 8:30. Al was laughing so hard he couldn't breathe.

Perhaps that's my answer.
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I predict Salvodelli will have a good day.
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I predict Salvodelli will have a good day.
There's no such rider in the tour.

I think the hills are too steep for Savoldelli to remain with the leaders on the final climb. I'm thinking a very good climber who can flat-out sprint will take the stage. Unless Rasmussen builds up an enormous advantage, I'd expect Valverde to take this one.
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Sylvain Chavanel goes for a long one, to initially get KOM points.
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Stage for Vino, Kloedn, Valverde, Valjavec, Schleck, Kasheckin, Contador and Rasmusen.
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Rasmussen is a badass. He dont play.

By the way, what does the HC climb stand for? "helluva climb" ?

hehehe.

I rode yesterday and I pulled a few hills here and tried to imagine it but theres no way. I dont see how they do it.
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By the way, what does the HC climb stand for? "helluva climb" ?
It means "hors catégorie" which loosly translates to beyond categorization, meaning off the charts. For many though an HC grade probably stands for "Holy Crap!"
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What will that first HC climb do to the peloton? Will a lot of those riders be able to catch back up before the cat 1 climb later in the stage?
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most likely (unless there's some mad attack at the start, ala pantani in 2000, or landis last year) which there won't be, seeing as the Pyrenees have yet to come.
Desperation in both cases. Still too early for desperate measures in this Tour, yet it may come to that for Vino.
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Many of the teams will try to send guns up ahead to be there to assist at the top of the final climb and the downhill.

But the steeper the climb, the bigger the advantage the pure climbers have. It's not a matter of whether the peloton allows Rasmussen to ride away - the fact is that he can.

Between Telegraphe and Galibier, there are about 30 km of steep and steeper climbing (with maybe 6k of descent in between), followed by the final 37 km of descent. A pure climber should be able to gain way more time on this climb than he will lose on the descent, especially if he's a decent descender.
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