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Old 07-14-07, 03:55 PM   #1
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Picks for tomorrow's stage (8)

I am going on a limb here I know (especially considering I don't even have a TV ;-)), but I have a suspicion that Vino's injuries is not as bad as all that.
The interviews I saw and read online, show a that Vino seems to play up his injuries and make much of them. I find this out of a character for the guy...
Could he be playing tricks on the peloton and getting ready for an all out war tomorrow?

Conventional wisdom would be that this is not the case, and that his most fervent wish is a relatively quiet day tomorrow and a nice rest day on Monday. Ditto for Kloden.

In that case, others GC contenders won't want to show their hands....

So I'll go with a Rasmusen stage victory (bo-ring) hoping that I'll be wrong.
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Old 07-14-07, 04:11 PM   #2
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If Ras get the stage win tomorrow it will not be boring. He is not going to be given time like he was in 05 with the hope he will falter in a time trial. That is risky business.

I agree with you on Vino. I would not be surprised if he attacks tomorrow. If he does not then maybe his injuries are a threat to him winning.

I really hope attacks are made tomorrow. If so then the GC group will be 10 or so riders, and we will have some answers.

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Old 07-14-07, 04:17 PM   #3
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If Ras get the stage win tomorrow it will not be boring. He is not going to be given time like he was in 05 with the hope he will falter in a time trial. That is risky business.

I agree with you on Vino. I would not be surprised if he attacks tomorrow. If he does not then maybe his injuries are a threat to him winning.

I really hope attacks are made tomorrow. If so then the GC group will be 10 or so riders, and we will have some answers.

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So what's your pick ?
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Old 07-14-07, 04:21 PM   #4
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I agree about it being out of character. He's usually humble, serious, focused, reserved. At the beginning of stage 6 he was all smiles while Klodi looked relatively miserable. This morning there was footage of him walking away from the hotel or team bus like Frankenstein (stiff legs, wide awkward steps) with a big smile on his face. I've never seen someone in such an unfortunate position be so upbeat.
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Old 07-14-07, 04:31 PM   #5
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1) Valverde
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So what's your pick ?
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Rasmusin wins it.
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Old 07-14-07, 05:44 PM   #7
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I'm gonna go with a non-contender Spaniard.
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Old 07-14-07, 05:54 PM   #8
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I'm gonna go with a non-contender Spaniard.
Which one?

I want to see ol' Chicken go off on a rampage to get his jersey.

As to the severity of Vino's injuries, I think that he is genuinely injured! Perhaps not to the point of which some of the media speculate, but it can't be fun to ride on the hills when your knees are stitched up. I am also curious to see how far Kloden can go in this year's tour.
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Chicken says he is going for yellow this year.

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Old 07-14-07, 06:30 PM   #10
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Unless he gets a serious lead on the rest of the peloton, I don't think the GC guys are going to be too worried about Chicken wearing the yellow for long. His time trailing - especially compared to the top GC guys - is definitely suspect.
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Old 07-14-07, 06:36 PM   #11
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Yes it is suspect, but do you want to spot him 5 minutes in a breakaway just because you think you can get it back in a time trial? That is way too risky.

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Yes it is suspect, but do you want to spot him 5 minutes in a breakaway just because you think you can get it back in a time trial? That is way too risky.

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Rasmusin gave up 1.16 in the 7.9 km prologue. He will get his arse handed to him in both time trials.
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Yes he may, and probably will. I dont disagree with that. But what is the margin of error? How much time do you give him. I promise you Ras will be marked. He is not going to be allowed to go off willy nilly on a breakaway. If he wanted to do that he should have shed more time. If he was 10 minutes down they would let him go.

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Old 07-14-07, 07:12 PM   #14
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I think we all can agree that he'll be a marked rider, which will give him a chance or two to win a stage, but nothing to gain serious time.

I don't see Chicken cracking the peloton badly enough to make up for his lackluster TT skills.
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I'll pick Rasmussen, with hot pursuit from Valverde, Karpets, Leipheimer, Sastre, Contador, Moreau, Astarloza, Kashekin, Dekker, Rogers, Garate and De La Fuente. I'm not certain about Schleck, Vino, Kloden, Schumaker, Zubeldia, Valjavec & Gusev. They might be in the close chase group.

I think Menchov, Evans, Periero and most of the other contenders will lose a couple minutes.

I expect Cavendish and Napolitano to say "au revoir" tomorrow as well.
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He may win a stage. My point was the Peloton is not going to allow him to take off in a breakaway. They will chase it down if he is in it. The only way for him to win tomorrow is to drop everyone on the final climb, but not by being allowed to ride off into the sunset.

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Old 07-14-07, 07:23 PM   #17
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Rasmussen might be looking for a stage with steeper hills to make a break. These hills are long instead of steep (eyeballing from map), so they suit all round GC guys a bit better.

I don't know if any team would work with him in a break with an uphill finish.
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Well again the break would get chased down, but other riders would work with him. It is their ticket to a possible stage win. The chicken is not a terror on the sprint, and the last 2 km flatten out tomorrow.

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Discovery looked surprisingly strong today. I see Leipheimer faltering in the end and Contador getting the job done.
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Put another way Sastre is not a very good time trialist either, would the other contenders let him go away on a break?

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Which one?

I want to see ol' Chicken go off on a rampage to get his jersey.

As to the severity of Vino's injuries, I think that he is genuinely injured! Perhaps not to the point of which some of the media speculate, but it can't be fun to ride on the hills when your knees are stitched up. I am also curious to see how far Kloden can go in this year's tour.
Hills? Them are mountains. Huge mountains.
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