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    Quote Originally Posted by branman1986 View Post
    Nobody else thought that was hilarious?
    I don't think we should laugh at a man who is obviously still struggling with such a horrible learning disability but has still managed to become a world-class cyclist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specq View Post
    I don't think we should laugh at a man who is obviously still struggling with such a horrible learning disability but has still managed to become a world-class cyclist.
    Snap, I didn't know botto was a world-class cyclist. Sorry.

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    And yet again, Vino is back in the game claiming second stage win in three days. AMAZING!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticlineage View Post
    And yet again, Vino is back in the game claiming second stage win in three days. AMAZING!
    Yes, but after he lost 29 minutes the day before. Again, did this help the rest of the Astana team? Both Kloden and Kasheckin are farther back (time wise) than they were in the previous stage. Doesn't seem like good tactics. In fact it seem like Vino realizes he's got no shot at the GC and is not out for personal glory. Balls, but no brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticlineage View Post
    And yet again, Vino is back in the game claiming second stage win in three days. AMAZING!
    Crossing the line with a facial expression that was a mix of joy and despair. He knows he could have won this thing.
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    I just hope Astana is not the equivalent of the East German women's swim teams back in the '80's.

    One can easily imagine the national sports federation of a small eastern European country with high ambitions and loose ethics, enlisting the help of doctors and chemists for "national pride".
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    Quote Originally Posted by deyendznyr View Post
    Yes, but after he lost 29 minutes the day before. Again, did this help the rest of the Astana team? Both Kloden and Kasheckin are farther back (time wise) than they were in the previous stage. Doesn't seem like good tactics. In fact it seem like Vino realizes he's got no shot at the GC and is not out for personal glory. Balls, but no brains.
    Astana apparently gave up on Kloden before the race began.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticlineage View Post
    And yet again, Vino is back in the game claiming second stage win in three days. AMAZING!
    Maybe a little bit like Floyd's triumphant comeback last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crypticlineage View Post
    And yet again, Vino is back in the game claiming second stage win in three days. AMAZING!
    Err. Stage wins are impressive. But did you not notice he's down by 28:21? I'm not sure what game he's back in, as making up that kind of time is not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40 Cent View Post
    Snap, I didn't know botto was a world-class cyclist. Sorry.
    That was a reference to Moreau, (but you knew that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunSwingsLow View Post
    Yet again Vino's crazy ego and tactics hurt his teams chances. Fun to watch, maybe. Smart race tactics, hardly.
    So wait... any rider that tries to win a stage is hurting his team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moochers_Dad View Post
    So wait... any rider that tries to win a stage is hurting his team?
    When his guy is high up on GC, and his attack does nothing to help his guy...then, yeah, he's hurting the team.

    If Astana really had faith in Kloden, they would insist that Vino support him, instead of taking off on his own.

    That said, Astana's probably just as happy to get lots of publicity, and for Vino to get the spotlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSP View Post
    Astana is the equivalent of the East German women's swim teams back in the '80's.

    ...national sports federation of a small eastern European country with high ambitions and loose ethics, enlisting the help of doctors and chemists for "national pride".
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    i am sure kloden will leave astana...he's probably had enough...
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    I think personally this helps solidify Vino's popularity. I mean, the guy is a cycling folk hero now. Stuff from the movies ( if they made any cycling movies) . But yeah Vino is the winner of the tour. even if he gets last place.

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    Astana is Vino's team. While he isn't going to win the tour, grabbing these stage wins and all the associated publicity is arguably just as good.

    While i think conventional wisdom would have been for him to ride for Kloden, the German has shown no ability to attack on the climbs after following Rasmussen and Co.s wheel all day. Having more company in the same jersey wont change that he cant close the deal and get back the time needed to finish off RM in the TT. Levi is that same boat right now, and are Popo or Contador catapulting him into yellow either?

    So why not let Vino ride for stages? Its some damn exciting cycling. Kloden has no one but himself to blame for leaving T-mobile...

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    i know...in a way vino is more of the victor than rasmussen...the guy's been in pain, wrapped up like a mummy and he's made it through the alps, the pyrenees and a long time trial. I always admire moxie, even if it's not really a big showy thing. I remmeber a few years ago in the giro, petacchi had a horrible crash in a time trial but kept going...and the next day he won the stage and was in so much pain he couldn't even lift his arms over his head at the finish line. Dope or no dope...let's face it EPO or whatever isn't painkiller. You can take a busload of it but if you're smashed up and you're out, you're out- the will to continue is probably the strongest drug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    Looks like you left your sense of humor at the doctors when you got your colonscopy.

    No worries, there's plenty of uptight humorless morons here to keep you company.
    Wow. That was your best? Translate it into French, maybe it'll have more punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40 Cent View Post
    Wow. That was your best? Translate it into French, maybe it'll have more punch.
    I don't want to speak for botto, but I think he'd say something like:

    "Ressemble à vous gauche votre sens de l'humour les médecins quand vous avez obtenu votre colonscopy.

    Aucun s'inquiète, là est abondance des débiles sans humour tendus ici pour vous garder compagnie."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcl8a View Post
    I don't want to speak for botto, but I think he'd say something like:

    "Ressemble à vous gauche votre sens de l'humour les médecins quand vous avez obtenu votre colonscopy.

    Aucun s'inquiète, là est abondance des débiles sans humour tendus ici pour vous garder compagnie."
    No, that was a machine translation, right? Botto's French is better than that. Just wish his sense of humor was at the same level. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40 Cent View Post
    No, that was a machine translation, right? Botto's French is better than that. Just wish his sense of humor was at the same level. Oh well.
    Oh, the irony of it all...

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    outstanding rider.
    Someday I hope to see him win the tour de france
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    Did anyone notice that he suffered a third crash? Did anyone also notice that he won the stage with knees that look TRULY awful. I have searched for the close up of his knee from yesterday, but I cannot find the picture. Here on the French eurosport they were showing it over and over again. It is SO very VERY wrong.

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