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Old 07-23-07, 01:59 PM   #1
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Contador vs Rasmussen: trash talking and shoulder checks

Seems that yesterdays 'words' have lingered a bit.

Anybody else catch Contador lean into Rasmussen today? It was like Poulidor and Anquetil.

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Old 07-23-07, 02:32 PM   #2
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I think these two probably hate each other but realize they need each other at this point. They're both afraid of Evans in the TT and need to put the hurt on him.

By the way, how can they trash talk to each other? I thought Contador only spoke spanish?
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i thought this was awesome and seeing it happen two days in a row was great. If they managed to finish 1 and 2 at the end I would be very pleased.
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I think these two probably hate each other but realize they need each other at this point. They're both afraid of Evans in the TT and need to put the hurt on him.

By the way, how can they trash talk to each other? I thought Contador only spoke spanish?
I think Ras's wife is from Mexico, so I'm thinking he may know how to speak Spanish.
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I think Ras's wife is from Mexico, so I'm thinking he may know how to speak Spanish.
That makes sense.
Of course, Dickhead is probably universal.
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How much do you wish you could even 'talk' at that point let alone 'trash talk'. I find it amazing that these guys are on the freak'n limit and are still able to hold a conversation. And yes I thought the whole thing was great theater!!!!

I really don't know why but I really want someone to drop MR. I was screaming at the TV..go go go! I wanted Contador to crack him like an egg. For no good reason I'm not a big fan of the Chicken.
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what leads you to believe that they "hate each other"?



i guess you've never traveled.
Mmm. Hate's probably the wrong word. More like, sick of looking at each other, knowing that the other has the opportunity, and skill, to take the yellow jersey and the money/fame/prestige that goes with it.

Yes, Botto, I've made it out of NYC and the USA on more than one ocassion. I understand your point.
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How much do you wish you could even 'talk' at that point let alone 'trash talk'. I find it amazing that these guys are on the freak'n limit and are still able to hold a conversation. And yes I thought the whole thing was great theater!!!!

I really don't know why but I really want someone to drop MR. I was screaming at the TV..go go go! I wanted Contador to crack him like an egg. For no good reason I'm not a big fan of the Chicken.
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I didn't see today's stage but I did see yesterday's when they had that little exchange. Based on the body language I was it appeared that Rasmussen asked Contador to do some pulling and Contador was not willing to do it. At least that's what it appeared to look like to me.
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... For no good reason I'm not a big fan of the Chicken.
Agreed. Something about MR strikes me as arrogant. He's like that 110 lb weekling in high school who thought he was the $hit. Perhaps his doped up arse makes him the $hit, but you don't have to be arrogant about it. Especially not when you're a weakling.

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For no good reason I'm not a big fan of the Chicken.
Some of the comments he's made about his teammates really gives you insight into his personality. He said something the other day about one of his teammates (Menchov?) not being able to get his "ass" up the mountain. Nice!
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I don't care if they were trading their favorite recipes for marinara sauce. I was just glad to see that someone attacked the yellow jersey. There were coming up that last climb and Leipheimer, Contador, and Popovych were all just sitting there in that group and letting Rasmussen ride his own pace. Rabobank and Discovery each had three men in that group. Discovery needed to work together and force the issue and instead they were riding like sheep. If you don't want to win I suppose that's fine but in that case you shouldn't be in the field. That's why I like to watch Vino so much. His attacks aren't always the best tactical decisions but he does what he knows and it makes for exciting racing.
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Millar's comments made a reference to Rasmussen's house in Mexico so I think he must speak a little Spanish. (But if I were him, I'd yell at AC in Danish. Probably sounds harsher.)
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Agreed. Something about MR strikes me as arrogant. He's like that 110 lb weekling in high school who thought he was the $hit. Perhaps his doped up arse makes him the $hit, but you don't have to be arrogant about it. Especially not when you're a weakling.

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Some of the comments he's made about his teammates really gives you insight into his personality. He said something the other day about one of his teammates (Menchov?) not being able to get his "ass" up the mountain. Nice!
Probably payback for last year's stage 16, the one where Floyd lost so much time. Rasmussen was under instructions to stay with Menchov to protect him for the final climb. Rasmussen said F U to his teammates and took off on his solo KOM flier. Menchov ended up losing two minutes, which put him out of contention. So no surprise that Menchov is less than enthusiastic about supporting RM.

Come to think of it, why are the Rabobank guys working so hard for RM? Not like he's done much for them in the past.

I didn't like RM before that stage, but after it, I can only wish him ill. Every good drama needs a villain, right? At this point, I'm rooting for anyone that can kick his self-centered likely-doping ass down the mountain.
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I'm a fan of AC. It would be great to see him win.
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i dont care who wins, i just want to see attacks.

The so called "GC contenders" are just snoring their way up a mountain waiting for contador to drag Ras off with him.

So what if you cant make it stick. go down fighting. Contador hasn't shaken Ras yet, but he keeps chipping away and i believe he'll finally do it wednesday, while the rest of them just ride safe and lame.
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Probably payback for last year's stage 16, the one where Floyd lost so much time. Rasmussen was under instructions to stay with Menchov to protect him for the final climb. Rasmussen said F U to his teammates and took off on his solo KOM flier. Menchov ended up losing two minutes, which put him out of contention. So no surprise that Menchov is less than enthusiastic about supporting RM.

Come to think of it, why are the Rabobank guys working so hard for RM? Not like he's done much for them in the past.

I didn't like RM before that stage, but after it, I can only wish him ill. Every good drama needs a villain, right? At this point, I'm rooting for anyone that can kick his self-centered likely-doping ass down the mountain.
yeah It's not like they will get some HUGE $$$BONUS$$$ if they win the tour. I mean Boogyman is there for the free Gels and drinks.. if it weren't for that he would crawl back into his cave..

Here in the states many see it as one man winning the race but internationally the team is the winner. Also there is always much $$$$$$$ attached to the winner and his team.
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I hope Contador takes time out of Rasmussen on Wednesday. Though I think The Chicken will be able to respond.

I don't like Rasmussen. I don't know why. I think he is ugly. He looks like an alien. Talented little bugger though.
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What I REALLY like about Contador is that he didnt take **** from Ras on stage 14 and showed some anger and a little bit of a nasty streak. I think his attacks on Ras were more of a psychological punishment than a physical one. Those may pay dividends as Ras stresses out tommorow and on stage 16 about how hard the attack is going to come from Contador.

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who thinks wednesday's stage is determined by who between the two gets the better transfusion on the rest day?

also, re: the nasty streak of contador, maybe that's what bruyneel was referencing when he said he saw some of lance in contrador.
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by contrast, Levi is "nice," or at least not "nasty." some might argue that he's a wuss. He isn't going to win the tour. Ever.

Winners in the last 18 years have all had some nasty in them.
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by contrast, Levi is "nice," or at least not "nasty." some might argue that he's a wuss. He isn't going to win the tour. Ever.

Winners in the last 18 years have all had some nasty in them.
All elite winners have that streak in them.
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