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Old 07-23-07, 05:12 PM   #1
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Wonder if Vino doped for this win?

Nothing to loose now. Just get stage wins. Let load up on some testy!

anyone agree?

Maybe not, then again.
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He took a vacation the day before... and probably could win that stage the way he did, as clean as usual. TdF has some big penalties this year if you get caught doping, so he would have plenty to lose.
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Old 07-23-07, 05:26 PM   #3
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Congratulations.

You've just created the most asinine thread of the day.



eheheheheheheheheheeheheheheheeeeeeheehehe


hey!! He was burnt toast yesterday! Just was thinkin outloud! He has
HEART! A burning desire and is a superb leader of Astana. He is the man and truly gave the middle finger to the rest of the field! I guess I just wanted to stir the stinky stuff. eheh
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Old 07-23-07, 05:36 PM   #4
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hey!! He was burnt toast yesterday! Just was thinkin outloud!
No, just failing to think outloud. When Jan totally cracked aginst Pantani he lost less than 10 minutes. No way Vino cracked enough to lose 20. He cracked enough to lose 3 (when he really could not afford to lose 10 seconds) and then decided GC hopes are gone so ride like someone without GC hopes. That means just going fast enough to be sure of not being eleminated on time and see what he can do tomorrow.
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Old 07-23-07, 06:34 PM   #5
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I really doubt a rider is going to dope any more or any less based on such things as this. For a rider of his ability, it made sense to just take it so easily that day, and not too surprising the change today. He's doped as much as he usually is, however much that is. Relative risk doesn't matter if they can't get caught anyway... this is why riders still doped in 1998, 1999, and they still are in 2007.
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I was thinking about this today... the situation is similar to what happened to Floyd last year (loose a ton of time on one hard mountain stage, come back to win the next one), but it seems that Vino is liked enough (and out of the GC enough) for nobody to care....
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Old 07-23-07, 10:02 PM   #7
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Ugh, there's just one "o" in lose and losing,
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Old 07-24-07, 02:25 AM   #8
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I was thinking about this today... the situation is similar to what happened to Floyd last year (loose a ton of time on one hard mountain stage, come back to win the next one), but it seems that Vino is liked enough (and out of the GC enough) for nobody to care....
Landis lost 10 minutes while going at maximum effort. Vino lost over a half hour by taking it easy.
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Actually, one of the official prosecutorial statements at Landis' hearing was that his good/bad/good results were indicative of doping. Now anytime a rider has a surpringly good result (other examples: Linus Gerdemann on stage 8, Juan Soler in stage 10), is it any wonder that Fred Q. Fan wonders the same thing?

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Delomiti points out the difference... bonking/cracking vs stopping before you bonk
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Nothing to loose now. Just get stage wins. Let load up on some testy!

anyone agree?

Maybe not, then again.
Even though it was about another stage, turns out your question was a valid one -- despite the Botto hysterics.....
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Congratulations.

You've just created the most asinine thread of the day.

INCORRECT:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...rov-Doping.php
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Botto: congratulations on winning most ill-timed post of the year award.
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Botto. Has been absolutely spectacular with his calls this year. Between Ras not having any chance to win the TdF and this thread its been truly classic.
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Show me where i wrote that Rasmussen wouldn't win the Tour. You can't.

While you're at it, work on your reading comprehension skills, because the OP was about yesterdays stage, and Vinokourov tested positive for the TT.
Botto sounds a little defensive here.
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Hair-splitting at it's finest...
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I guess this thread wasn't quite so asinine after all.
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Show me where i wrote that Rasmussen wouldn't win the Tour. You can't.

While you're at it, work on your reading comprehension skills, because the OP was about yesterdays stage, and Vinokourov tested positive for the TT.

Perhaps we should ask this poster to find it...

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No way. Very incorrect. Botto said it was not possible; so its most definitely not in the cards. He also added that if you thought that Rasmussen would win the TdF, it means that you know nothing about racing. So don't even think of it.
http://www.bikeforums.net/newreply.p...eply&p=4899588
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Botto. Has been absolutely spectacular with his calls this year. Between Ras not having any chance to win the TdF and this thread its been truly classic.

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Perhaps we should ask this poster to find it...



Here it is:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...09#post4858409


http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...09#post4858409

And go back up to the start of the thread....
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Old 07-24-07, 11:56 AM   #24
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HEHEHEHEH

Hey Botto, you may have 12k in posts but your monkey post outshines them all!

You walked into it on that one. Very well timed I might add.


Thinking outloud paid off this time heheheh.

Astana Quits Tour!


By Phil Liggett
July 24, 2007

Alexandre Vinokourovís positive blood test announced Tuesday has stunned everyone from riders to organisers. Since his crash, he has been portrayed as a limping hero of what, so far, has been a marvellous Tour. Now, he seems to have been caught introducing homologous blood into his system just before the time trial he won in demonstrative fashion.
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Old 07-24-07, 12:00 PM   #25
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Just one more time!



Congratulations.

You've just created the most asinine thread of the day.

Im just ribbin ya dude I just thought of that after he smoked the field after sucking so hard and waiving by to the cameras a day earlier.

Not Flackin ya, just thought my OP was well timed..
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