erader

no wonder that stiff was riding so well !

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...ul07/jul31news

ed rader

VT Biker

The fun is really just beginning no? Iban Mayo, then Contador (see Velonews - they have a piece stating that essentially there is evidence of multiple PED's used by Contador).

Thank god we can all ride ourselves. What would we do if cycling was purely a spectator sport.

tubs

It seems like Russian Roulette is the name of the game

VT Biker

I am all for it at this point. I mean, when only 1 or 2 get popped, it does not send the message. We need an all out blood-bath to the pount where these teams and sponsors really begin to hold their riders accountable.

erader

i'll bet rasmussen's phone is ringing off the hook with job offers .

ed rader

Randomus

*sigh* I was hoping no one else would test positive, but clearly had doubts.

David Millar would have had a fit if he was kicked out of the tour!

VeloNews linkage

PezCycling News wrap-up

FixdGearHead

Disco probably already contacted him on Friday afternoon.

erader

it wouldn't surprise me...they did hire basso !

ed rader

VT Biker

Wow - the amazing thing is how many big names have popped up in this race.

Think of it this way: if you could get the money together, you could put together quite a team in about 2-years.

USAZorro

Most of them will be well past their "use by" date though.

Disco would have no use for Rasmussen. His best hope would ba Astana, and I bet they're not hiring right now.

reef58

Evidently the doping testing works better than we thought, or all of these old pros forgot how to do it.

BTW my blood work showed hemocrit at 49.1% I don't do EPO, and I suck really bad. Oh well.

Richard

VT Biker

Reef58:

if that is your hemocrit level, then if anything, at least your baseline is decent enough that through training, you would reaally see progress. Better than sucking and having a level in the 30's, no?

erader

so you'd let a guy who can beat your best guy go to another team ?

ed rader

Helmet Head

Think of all the favorites for the 2006 Tour a couple of months before that Tour and how many of them have been ousted for drugs... Ullrich, Basso, Vino, Mancebo, Mayo, Rasmussen, Flandis, ...

Makes you wonder how many of the other favorites who were not busted simply just got away with it. The possibility that any top contenders are truly clean becomes less and less likely with each revelation of yet another cycling star who apparently could not compete at that level clean.

erader

if you are of the belief that "they all dope" there are no surprises but even the most cynical want to believe that someone is clean.

and i did name our new kitten floyd last year !

ed rader

lotek 

The only thing that Velonews reported is the the German doping expert has
what he says is evidence about Contador and Operation Puerto.
The article in Velonews is pretty interesting, hints at being very detailed
but I have to question why did the spanish federation and police clear
Contador if they also had this evidence?

Marty

p.s. hell I'm not even clean, pulled my back saturday and got a cortizone shot,
guess I won't be riding the Vuelta this year either.

reef58

Yea, but I was hoping EPO would do me good

Richard

VT Biker

I am the most cynical on this board, and even I want to beleive they are clean. 1% of me holds out hope, if only because it justified why I spend so much time devoted to watching it.

reef58

Bradley Wiggins did say the older riders are the ones he suspects of doping. So far that has worked out. Old and desperate = popped in the test.

Richard

reef58

Maybe the testing people should tell the riders they have recently developed the Dopinator 2000. It can find any and all PED's. If they come forth now they will go easy. If not and they test positive lifetime ban. Who knows maybe the bluff will work for a few.

Richard

GGDub

We made one of those in Uni, except it involved a gas mask and a huge bong.

Dolomiti

Almost certainly there are some clean riders, but it's doubtful that any of them are GT overall contenders.
Does anyone know who was almost certainly clean in the last 10 years? Like riders who were on a team while implicated in a big scandal for instance (Festina) that were repeated reported to have declined participating in doping.

It would be fun cheering for them, even when they finish 50th. Watching the dopers is fun too, but I too like how this is turning into a 'bloodbath' . I don't care if half the ProTour gets banned for doping... I'll still look forward to watching cycling. Perhaps moreso than if nobody was banned.

Some of these older riders, it's almost like they're looking for an excuse to retire early. My god Lance must have known something, he leaves and everyone around him is busted! What timing. (Armstrong... the doper... my favorite rider ever BTW)

Wonder if Spanish authorities covered up Real Madrid and Barca doping programs too...

Me too, my last hematocrit reading was either 48-49%. I was in decent cycling shape at the time.

sgrundy

He needs to get his money back.

Does anybody know why he got off the hook for his Giro positive?

erader

what the hell does wiggins know? how old is contador?

ed rader

reef58

I don't know. I guess not as much as you. I just thought I would throw it out there. Calm down.

Richard