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stevesurf 07-05-08 10:09 AM

stage 18 - Bourg-d'Oisans Saint-Étienne Spoiler
 
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cibai 07-23-08 10:10 AM

These aren't exactly sprinters stages for the next two days. Any chance of seeing some GC attacks?

bbgobie 07-23-08 10:14 AM

Hope so...
CSC didn't get enough time, the riders can make it as hard as they want. I think they need to set a high tempo through to sat, and pressure evans so he can't recover as much.
If they sit around, Evans and Sastre straight up is an easy choice.

pumpy schwartz 07-23-08 11:03 AM

here's hoping vandevelde dusts everyone on the first climb and stays away

USAZorro 07-23-08 11:04 AM

Three words:

Juan Antonio Flecha

dstrong 07-23-08 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pumpy schwartz (Post 7117661)
here's hoping vandevelde dusts everyone on the first climb and stays away

So you're hoping he pulls a Floyd? But without the "help". :D

Not that they'd let him get away like Floyd...wasn't Floyd down by 8+ minutes?

aham23 07-23-08 11:46 AM

i think we see nothing. it seems like "tradition" gets in the way a bit as this race ends. GC will stay put, mark each other, and fight it out at the TT. just my guess. later.

justinb 07-23-08 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aham23 (Post 7117998)
i think we see nothing. it seems like "tradition" gets in the way a bit as this race ends. GC will stay put, mark each other, and fight it out at the TT. just my guess. later.

I agree. Pippo Pozzato for the win on that swanky green c-dale. He was "saving" himself today.

pumpy schwartz 07-23-08 12:27 PM

there's still 2 days of fair climbs. VdV had another good day today, maybe he'll light it up. cancellara has got to be hurting.

dstrong 07-23-08 12:48 PM

Anyone within 10 minutes won't be allowed to get away in these next two stages.

interested 07-23-08 01:36 PM

There probably won't be much GC action until the very last kilometers of the stage. Since the stage ends in a summit, there will be some final attacks that probably won't change much.

It would however be a cheeky move by CSC-SB if they let Andy attack on either the Parmenie or Montvieux. He is not a GC threat (+10 min. down) so he might be allowed to get away, or be strong enough on the mountainside not to need permission from the peleton. With Andy in front, the team could relax a little and let other people pull them over the top. They could perhaps even inflict some damage on Evans if Frank was able to attack a couple of times, since Evans couldn't allow even Frank to get away with his brother as a super domestique up front.
But, bah, unlikely much will happen until the final TT.
I predict a breakaway with AG2R riders since they are close to winning the team competition and perhaps Valverde as winner. (Probably eat crow on that).

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Regards

Suzie Green 07-23-08 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAZorro (Post 7117675)
Three words:

Juan Antonio Flecha

Nice going Bobke. :lol:

USAZorro 07-23-08 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzie Green (Post 7120284)
Nice going Bobke. :lol:

I wish I could trade places with him every July. Maybe better if I traded places with Craig Hummer. :innocent:

2wheeled 07-23-08 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstrong (Post 7118419)
Anyone within 10 minutes won't be allowed to get away in these next two stages.

plus the climbs aren't hard to break any of the top riders.

cibai 07-23-08 08:53 PM

break is a relative term. Cadel "broke" on a Cat 2 mountain stage finish already this tour.

2wheeled 07-23-08 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cibai (Post 7121585)
break is a relative term. Cadel "broke" on a Cat 2 mountain stage finish already this tour.

Which cat 2 was that?

A quick look at the grade and position of the climbs would indicate that it will be very unlikely that CSC will gain any advantage over Evans,

Km 163.0 - Croix de Montvieux - 13.7 km climb to 4.7 % - Category 2
Km 188.0 - Côte de Sorbiers - 4.3 km climb to 3.2 % - Category 4

I will also say that Evans will win the tour in the true wheelsucking way...without a stage win! :innocent:

Laggard 07-23-08 10:05 PM

This is the breakaway stage where someone in the leading group wins.

2wheeled 07-23-08 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laggard (Post 7122097)
This is the breakaway stage where someone in the leading group wins.

Who do you fancy?

I will go with any of these:
Cyril Dessel
George Hincapie
David Moncoutie

USAZorro 07-23-08 10:37 PM

Flecha
Fofonov
Knees

Suzie Green 07-23-08 10:53 PM

Vincenzo Nibali

skinny 07-24-08 06:14 AM

from eurosport:

More breaking news from Reuters: French customs officers stopped and searched a car driven by Johnny Schleck, the father of riders Frank and Andy, during Thursday's 18th stage, witnesses said. Customs officers first stopped a press car with Luxemburg number plates and searched it 35km into the day's 196.5km ride from Bourg d'Oisans to St Etienne. They then stopped a second car, driven by Johnny Schleck, whose sons are riders from Luxembourg representing the CSC team on the Tour de France. We'll keep you updated when we hear more.

Pedaleur 07-24-08 06:48 AM

Fränk was pretty adamant with his "I'm tired" comments this morning. I wouldn't be surprised if he attacks on the last Cat 2 to see what kind of reaction the other contenders put up. CSC has to do _something_ to try to get more time, synes jeg.

I am prepared to be wrong.

skinny 07-24-08 07:15 AM

from eurosport:

Papa Schleck update from Reuters. Looks to our untrained eyes like much ado about nothing: Johnny Schleck, who drives guests around for one of the Tour sponsors, was asked to step out of the car at a roundabout and was searched by a police officer. He was then asked to drive the car towards the other side of the roundabout, where the vehicle was searched by customs officers for 30 minutes. "We will search the car," a customs officer told Reuters without giving any further details. The car later continued on the stage course behind a customs vehicle towards Grenoble.

pumpy schwartz 07-24-08 07:55 AM

nobody's attacking. disappointing.

patrick07 07-24-08 07:57 AM

Since CSC has spent so much time at the front today, can someone tell me why there are different team jerseys. I understand the yellow but I don't understand the two half red / half white jerseys and what they stand for.


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