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Old 07-05-08, 10:11 AM   #1
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Old 07-20-08, 02:59 PM   #2
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So without Savoldelli this year, who's the obvious choice for the long fast finish?
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So without Savoldelli this year, who's the obvious choice for the long fast finish?
there is none.

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not pereiro. hope he mends well.
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The descent is steeper than the climb. Who is a great descender, with a chance at the GC? Descending on steep mountains isn't necessarily about having TT weight. Pantani once pulled ahead 3-5 minutes on Ullrich after *descending* the Col du Galibier in the 1998 Tour, even though Pantani was much lighter and couldn't TT at all compared to Ullrich.

It might be crazy... a GC contender crashing on the descent possibly? They'll be flat out.
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methinks what makes a great descender is more the size of his balls, not the weight of his ass.
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methinks what makes a great descender is more the size of his balls, not the weight of his ass.
That's a great "anatomy quote" for TdF descents.
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methinks what makes a great descender is more the size of his balls, not the weight of his ass.
err, huh huh. He said.. balls!
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Maybe someone will resort to that trick they tried 70 years ago where a team helper passed up lead-filled water bottles at the summit of a climb to help his rider descend faster!

I see no one is sticking their neck out and making any predictions here. OK I will put my flame resistant underwear on and go with Valverde because he has the most to gain and not much to lose...and because I think he's a better sprinter than the rest.
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So Suzie started off the predictions I'll go for Sanchez. Euskaltel have to win something, right? He has a reputation for fast descents, if somewhat reckless. He may be too crazy for the others to want to follow, and he is a long way back.
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valverde is a great call for tomorrow's stage. sami sanchez also as he's said to be the best at going downhill these days. the little prince is a great descender, but he'll not likely be able to get over the ups in this stage to show his stuff.

popovych is another master descender that I would say to be a great pick for tomorrow under normal circumstances, but he's got other duties and really doesn't seem to be going very well.
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valverde is a great call for tomorrow's stage. sami sanchez also as he's said to be the best at going downhill these days. the little prince is a great descender, but he'll not likely be able to get over the ups in this stage to show his stuff.

popovych is another master descender that I would say to be a great pick for tomorrow under normal circumstances, but he's got other duties and really doesn't seem to be going very well.

Good call there! I would have gone with Cunego had he been riding better. I don't see him magically finding his legs and lungs any time soon. The same with Popo...if he can't get over the climb with the leaders to start with, he won't be descending with them at the end.

The only wild card here is a break getting away with no GC guys in it. If that happens, my secondary choice would be Amets Txurruka...he's still in the race I hope? Euskatel needs a win!!
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Ill be surprised if the GC contenders are seperate at the line.

But im pulling for VDV big day.
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The Bonette-Restefond is a monster. In 1993 it pretty much narrowed the field down to four contenders for the overall. I expect one or two of the pretenders will be exposed today.
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Ill be surprised if the GC contenders are seperate at the line.

But im pulling for VDV big day.
I thought so too until yesterday's stage. They're all hungry and fighting. There's going to be a lot of action on that last climb. Sastre, Kohl & Schleck know they need time but who's going fly and falter?

I think Sastre will fly and bring Valverde with him and winning the sprint.
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So Suzie started off the predictions I'll go for Sanchez. Euskaltel have to win something, right? He has a reputation for fast descents, if somewhat reckless. He may be too crazy for the others to want to follow, and he is a long way back.
Good call, but is he a strong enough climber to make it over the second climb at the head of the field?

In a shocker, I think Sean Yates is going to come out of retirement, ambush the field at the top of the Bonette, and lay the smackdown on an unsuspecting peloton. You heard it here first!
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Ill be surprised if the GC contenders are seperate at the line.

But im pulling for VDV big day.

I can see CSC running the train out again for Schleck and Sastre; with the rest of the GC bunch hanging on just like Stage 15. They'll have to attack early on the last climb to get enough time to cover the descent.

I think/hope VdV goes for it and attacks and tightens the standings even further before he wins on Alpe D-Huez. (still think it's Cadel's year but it's been exciting to watch Vandevelde this year)

Meanwhile, the entire Euskaltel-Euskadie squad will have attacked at the drop of the flag and taken 20 or so other riders with them. Most will get caught before the second climb but another small group will score the stage win. Too bad Soler or Contador isn't here.
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Sanchez stuck with the gc group last time, so maybe he can manage it again, or at least, get back on. I see that Txurruka and Zubeldia made it into the group. Maybe they can make it?
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Looks like all the GC guys have sent someone up in the break. If they can get some seperation going up the final climb, could be TTT going downhill!
That would be exciting...
I see Sastre, and Voigt/Arverson joined by Menchov going down first, being chased by Evans/Vandevelde/Kohl group.
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CSC better get their butts in gear. They've let Cunego become the leader on the road. Freaking idiots!
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Someone was saying Tadej Valjevic is in virtual yellow. He can climb too. Any Slovenians been in yellow before?

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If Nibali is in the 1st chase, he would be it.

edit - nope, he's going off the back. Looks like it's Valjevic
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Vandevelde is done, nobody knows where he is. It was nice while it lasted.
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where's vandevelde? the radio stream isn't saying
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