Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Professional Cycling For the Fans Follow the Tour de France,the Giro de Italia, the Spring Classics, or other professional cycling races? Here's your home...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-08-08, 02:53 PM   #1
DMF 
Elitist Troglodyte
Thread Starter
 
DMF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas
Bikes: 03 Raleigh Professional (steel)
Posts: 6,924
Al Trautwig come back! We need you!

I was set to give this kid Hummer some extended audition time -- until this morning's pre-race fiasco. Four guys trying to talk nonsense over the top of each other.

Bob's half out of control anyway, but he's allowed - he's Bobke! Phil and Paul have been at this long enough they can take a cue, but someone needs to give the cue. Big Al, whatever you think about his race commentating, is a solid professional broadcaster who can control a panel of sleep-deprived characters. He knows how to bracket segments, and that personal fun and games aren't interesting to the audience. The past few years the pre-race was often the best part of the show. This year it isn't working.

Okay, Al's off to the Olympics. But I sure hope he's back after that.
__________________
Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?

- Will Rogers
DMF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-08, 08:15 PM   #2
Suzie Green
Cycler
 
Suzie Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,499
He was at the Olympic gymnastics trials the other night. I guess that's why they couldn't squeeze him into the TdF before the Olympics.
Suzie Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-08, 11:27 PM   #3
Richard_Rides
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,371
I like Al.
Richard_Rides is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-08, 06:25 AM   #4
veloGeezer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Central PA
Bikes:
Posts: 390
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzie Green View Post
He was at the Olympic gymnastics trials the other night. I guess that's why they couldn't squeeze him into the TdF before the Olympics.

so that's what's behind this new guy in the commentary booth!

it all makes sense now...sort of
veloGeezer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-08, 11:15 AM   #5
free_jazz
...Please
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: San Diego area
Bikes:
Posts: 27
sense? you mean like, "let him ruin the Olympics instead" ?
free_jazz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-08, 09:35 PM   #6
bac
Senior Member
 
bac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pennsylvania
Bikes: Too many to list!
Posts: 7,481
Bring back Kirsten Gum!



... Brad
bac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-08, 10:51 PM   #7
Gabbo
Never get out of the boat
 
Gabbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Aliso Viejo, CA
Bikes: Homegrown Scattante road bike, GT road bike
Posts: 110
Not a huge fan of Trautwig, but seeing Hummer goading Sherwin and Liggett in their daily stage picks competition makes me want to put my first in his stupid, toothy grin. Trautwig was ignorant, but at least he showed some respect/deference to the smarter guys in the room.
Gabbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-08, 11:09 AM   #8
mikey71469
young guy in a old body
 
mikey71469's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: wherever i happen to be at the moment
Bikes: yours
Posts: 16
" Bring back Kirsten Gum! "

complete agreement!
mikey71469 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-08, 11:35 AM   #9
markjenn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 874
I haven't seen today's broadcast, but I think the kid is doing Okay. I liked Trautwig and would still prefer to see him back, but each day, I've missed him less. He's doing Okay. I say we give him the benefit of the doubt until another week or so. And I think Versus does such a great job overall (mostly because of Phil and Paul) that I think we can cut them some slack if the chemistry needs a little tuning with a new group.

Of course, I always have my trigger finger on the skip-30-seconds button on the ReplayTV. No way I'd watch this thing live for three hours each day, watching 90 minutes of the peleton following 5 minutes behind the breakaway on a flat stage and enduring the same commercials 100x over. I generally skip through it in 45 minutes or so. At this pace, it's a great show.

- Mark
markjenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-08, 05:10 PM   #10
Suzie Green
Cycler
 
Suzie Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,499
You guys don't know how good you have it. I started following European bike racing in 1975. And the word "follow" is really a stretch. My brother, my Dad and I would listen to an evening recap of the day's stage by tuning in to the BBC on the radio at 6:45 PM when there would be a 5-10 minute rundown of the results. Packed into the radio broadcast were also highlights from Wimbeldon, along with other British sports news.

I'll gladly take Craig Hummer, Al Trautwig, Bobke, or just about anyone else for that matter.
Suzie Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-08, 04:23 PM   #11
popeye
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Newport Beach, CA
Bikes: S works Tarmac, Felt TK2 track
Posts: 1,127
Dump the kid!!!
popeye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-08, 09:10 AM   #12
miater
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: central florida
Bikes: cervelo dual, lemond tourmalet
Posts: 163
He's a little too excited to be there for my taste.I miss Al
miater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-08, 02:25 PM   #13
rat_factory
= cyclist's tan
 
rat_factory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: the big D in the big T
Bikes: '82 Miyata 310, '87 Scott Boulder, '87 Schwinn Le Tour, '91 Cannondale SM500, '96 Schwinn Clear Creek, '99 Schwinn MesaGS, '05 Rockhopper
Posts: 297
Quote:
Originally Posted by bac View Post
Bring back Kirsten Gum!



... Brad
+1 - thats the smartest thing I've heard all day.
rat_factory is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-08, 06:20 PM   #14
SSP
Software for Cyclists
 
SSP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redding, California
Bikes: Trek 5200, Specialized MTB
Posts: 4,618
I was at the Tour in 2004, and walked by the OLN booth about an hour after the Alpe d'Huez finish. It was a hot day, and while I was looking up at the booth, I saw Al Trautwig remove his shirt. I still have nightmares about that...
SSP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-08, 06:35 PM   #15
sykerocker 
Senior Member
 
sykerocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Montpelier, VA
Bikes: The keepers: 1960 Raleigh Lenton Grand Prix, 1968 Ranger, 1969 Magneet Sprint, 1971 Gitane Tour de France, 1973 Raleigh Tourist, 1973 Lambert, 1973 Schwinn Super Sport, 2 - 1988 Rossins
Posts: 3,858
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzie Green View Post
You guys don't know how good you have it. I started following European bike racing in 1975. And the word "follow" is really a stretch. My brother, my Dad and I would listen to an evening recap of the day's stage by tuning in to the BBC on the radio at 6:45 PM when there would be a 5-10 minute rundown of the results. Packed into the radio broadcast were also highlights from Wimbeldon, along with other British sports news.

I'll gladly take Craig Hummer, Al Trautwig, Bobke, or just about anyone else for that matter.
Amen. I can remember back into the early 70's when you finally found out about the Tour after the three weeks were over, and then you got a quick synopsis of all three weeks in one magazine article. Usually two pages or less.
__________________
Syke

"No wonder we keep testing positive in their bicycle races. Everyone looks like they're full of testosterone when they're surrounded by Frenchmen." ---Argus Hamilton
sykerocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-08, 01:32 PM   #16
Sci-Fi
Senior Member
 
Sci-Fi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 1,266
Many feel Craig Hummer is better at calling the rodeo/bull riding at Versus. He comes off as a frat boy in cycling and for many it's annoying (to be nice). Hummer is as bad as Tanner Foust is on 'Supercars' for SpeedTV.
Sci-Fi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-08, 02:08 PM   #17
isuffer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NY
Bikes:
Posts: 196
Quote:
Originally Posted by bac View Post
Bring back Kirsten Gum!



... Brad
NOOOOoooooo!!!
isuffer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-08, 05:30 PM   #18
Suzie Green
Cycler
 
Suzie Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by sykerocker View Post
Amen. I can remember back into the early 70's when you finally found out about the Tour after the three weeks were over, and then you got a quick synopsis of all three weeks in one magazine article. Usually two pages or less.
Wooo hooo! Let's go have a beer together and talk about the old days! I'd read about the Tour in Velo News. My brother had a subscription and it was just a small newspaper back then, black and white, hardly ever any photos. You mention "Tour de France" to anyone and you might as well have asked about the golf tournament results from the Phillipines.
Suzie Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-08, 08:13 AM   #19
lotek
Forum Admin
 
lotek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: n.w. superdrome
Bikes: 1 trek, serotta, rih, de Reus, Pogliaghi and finally a Zieleman! and got a DeRosa
Posts: 17,702
hey I want in on that beerfest. and by the way they'd probably know more about
that Philippine golf tournament then the tour.
then there was the CBS 1 hour a week segments. better but not by much.

I lost all hope for Hummer when he mentioned 'Ricco Riccardo' as a rider for Saunier Duval.
__________________
Sono pił lento di quel che sembra.
Odio la gente, tutti.


Want to upgrade your membership? Click Here.
lotek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-08, 08:25 AM   #20
DogBoy
No one carries the DogBoy
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 2,309
My wife likes the new guy...thinks he's cute. I think he an Al are on par for annoying level. I've never understood why Vs feels the need for an additional person for the TDF.
DogBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-08, 08:50 PM   #21
DMF 
Elitist Troglodyte
Thread Starter
 
DMF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Dallas
Bikes: 03 Raleigh Professional (steel)
Posts: 6,924
Well that show I *****ed about was the worst. Hummer has been downright okay at times. But I still miss Al.

One thing Al did that isn't widely appreciated (apparently) is to make Bobke a star. Every great clown needs a great straight man and Al is all of that. This year it feels like the Versus head office has Bob's wife and kids as hostage, while Hummer tries to be the cute one. If that's intentional I fear for the future.
__________________
Stupidity got us into this mess - why can't it get us out?

- Will Rogers
DMF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-08, 12:45 PM   #22
fhall1
Senior Member
 
fhall1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Upstate NY
Bikes: Trek 1500
Posts: 239
Another vote for Al over Hummer.....and what's with Bob this year...did he attend Politically Correctness 101 over the off-season? EVERY time Hummer asks him a question, he starts the reply with "That's an excellent question......" even when they aren't excellent questions
fhall1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-08, 12:55 PM   #23
MDcatV
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 6,760
I dont understand the complaints about hummer, I find him signficantly more tolerable than the trout, and he doesnt mis-pronounce rider names or incorrectly identify riders any more often than phil/paul.

I've enjoyed the Vs. coverage this year, I like andreau, am lukewarm on robbie ventura, and have enjoyed johan being on the team to add real insight to the tactics, how he would do things differently at times, etc.

Although I prefer just watching the race and could do without all the "television show" aspects of the primetime coverage, I give kudos to Vs. for the job they've done this year. Plus, if you play the "lance armstrong", "garmin-chipotle", or "team columbia" drinking game on any given broadcast, you'll be sauced before the 1st commercial break!
MDcatV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-08, 03:01 PM   #24
collegeskier
Senior Member
 
collegeskier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Evanston, IL
Bikes: Felt F5, Fuji Robaix Pro and a KHS Mountain Bike
Posts: 817
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
Plus, if you play the "lance armstrong", "garmin-chipotle", or "team columbia" drinking game on any given broadcast, you'll be sauced before the 1st commercial break!
I recommend you toss in "Every Second Counts" ever since LA's book.
collegeskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-08, 05:30 PM   #25
Suzie Green
Cycler
 
Suzie Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 1,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by MDcatV View Post
Plus, if you play the "lance armstrong", "garmin-chipotle", or "team columbia" drinking game on any given broadcast, you'll be sauced before the 1st commercial break!

You used to be able to get that way by playing the "schlooge" drinking game.
Suzie Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:42 AM.