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    So with 5 racing stages left...

    Whos the favorite.

    If Cadel keeps the current time gaps id say he is still the favorite.

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    cadel. he should be able to make up the time in the time trial but i dunno how hes gonna fare going up alp du huez

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    CSC will do everything they can in the Alps to make sure Cadel has no legs left.

    I think Frank or Carlos look pretty strong.
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    Based upon past TT results, Schleck and Kohl will need at least 4 min before they hit the TT to have any chance against Evans, Menchov, or Vande Velde. And since Valverde and Cunego really have no shot at the podium, I wouldn't be surprised if they go all out on the 'Alpe (which could put a dent in CSC's plans).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycleFreakLS View Post
    Based upon past TT results, Schleck and Kohl will need at least 4 min before they hit the TT to have any chance against Evans, Menchov, or Vande Velde. And since Valverde and Cunego really have no shot at the podium, I wouldn't be surprised if they go all out on the 'Alpe (which could put a dent in CSC's plans).
    Cunego has shown that when he goes "all out", he doesn't endanger any of the true GC contenders.

    I do expect very lively stages on Tuesday and Wednesday. After today, I think several of the stronger climbers are smelling blood, and will be going after Evans mercilessly.
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    I still think Evans or possibly Menchov will get it. Sastre, Schleck & Kohl still need much more time as already stated. I don't think that they can get that amount of time. VDV is still hanging tough, we'll how he fairs on L'alp duez.

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    If Menchov stays off the ground, the TT will be a match race between him and Evans to decide the GC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    Cunego has shown that when he goes "all out", he doesn't endanger any of the true GC contenders.

    +1 "Disappointing" hardly even begins to describe his performance so far.

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    Barring some real heroics in the mountains (which is certainly not out of the question), my money is on Evans or Menchov due to their TT strenghs. I love V/V as a darkhorse, and there are certainly plenty of pure climbers left to throw a wrench in the works.

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    over the years the Tour has shown that it has no favorites

    there are now six men under one minute from the lead. This is one of the best races I've seen in years.

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    Menchov hasn't really come out to play yet, I wonder if he will be able to put some time into people in the Alps, or if he'll just hang tough and try to grind out a TT.

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    my money is on Menchov as well...can't wait to see how this pans out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekhna View Post
    Menchov hasn't really come out to play yet, I wonder if he will be able to put some time into people in the Alps, or if he'll just hang tough and try to grind out a TT.
    I think Menchov would have put some time into several of the GC contenders yesterday if he hadn't fallen just as he attacked in one of the uphill turns (bad break for him).

    Anyway, I have Menchov, Evans and Vandevelde on my fantasy team, so that last TT should be VERY interesting (unless these next two Alps stages put way more time between the climbers and the TTers than yesterday did).

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    given what Cervelo has said about owning the bridge 500 meters from the finish at Alpe d'Huez, and the way the stages play out for this final week, it should be a safe bet to say that CSC is going to do everything they can to win the race Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bac View Post
    Barring some real heroics in the mountains (which is certainly not out of the question), my money is on Evans or Menchov due to their TT strenghs. I love V/V as a darkhorse, and there are certainly plenty of pure climbers left to throw a wrench in the works.

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    Vandevelde with a podium finish would be a pretty fun result. He'd certainly managed to stay in the thick of things. I'm starting to believe. Go go third place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc0bbq View Post
    Vandevelde with a podium finish would be a pretty fun result. He'd certainly managed to stay in the thick of things. I'm starting to believe. Go go third place!
    If he's within 90 seconds of Sastre/Schleck/Kohl after the Alpe, you'd have to think he's going to podium. He's a stud TTist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen H View Post
    I think Menchov would have put some time into several of the GC contenders yesterday if he hadn't fallen just as he attacked in one of the uphill turns (bad break for him).
    he did anyway. he fell, they passed him, he caught back up and still went off the front of the evans group. he put 18 seconds into schleck and 27 into evans.

    i think evans is probably the most likely to win the tour, but it's not gonna be easy. he's gonna get absolutely mauled by these guys before he's allowed to win it. and if he cracks in the mountains, or is even just the slightest bit weak, i think menchov will win it. he's looking like a serious threat right now
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    The more I look at it the more I think Stage 16 is huge. Not a mountiantop finish, but 2 HC climbs back to back with little flat inbetween. It really is a stage that could be anything from no gaps at all to huge gaps. If someone has the guts to push on the first climb and take it all the way to the end. If CSC can drop the TT guys on the first clinb and have just a couple of workers left they might just break things wide open. If they fail but make the TT guys work hard enough without also killing their GC guys they can win that way also.

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    How cool would it be to ride just one stage w/ those guys

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    Not very cool for me. Can you say broomwagon.

    I would like to be a team mechanic though and ride in the car. I wonder how I can get that job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    The more I look at it the more I think Stage 16 is huge. Not a mountiantop finish, but 2 HC climbs back to back with little flat inbetween. It really is a stage that could be anything from no gaps at all to huge gaps. If someone has the guts to push on the first climb and take it all the way to the end. If CSC can drop the TT guys on the first clinb and have just a couple of workers left they might just break things wide open. If they fail but make the TT guys work hard enough without also killing their GC guys they can win that way also.
    If they didn't have stage 17 staring them in the face, I could see them trying that. I expect a little more conservative approach on stage 16. Not that they wouldn't try something, but I think CSC will push with one of the riders on 16, and the other on 17 - not both on the same stage.

    Most sensible would be to have Sastre and possibly Andy attack, and have Frank sit on Cadel's wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smoke View Post
    he did anyway. he fell, they passed him, he caught back up and still went off the front of the evans group. he put 18 seconds into schleck and 27 into evans.

    i think evans is probably the most likely to win the tour, but it's not gonna be easy. he's gonna get absolutely mauled by these guys before he's allowed to win it. and if he cracks in the mountains, or is even just the slightest bit weak, i think menchov will win it. he's looking like a serious threat right now
    menchov has just lost 35 seconds on a descent

    fingers crossed for cadel, doing it tough without the strongest team.

    (not that i'm a biased australian or anything )

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricktopmarv View Post
    menchov has just lost 35 seconds on a descent

    fingers crossed for cadel, doing it tough without the strongest team.

    (not that i'm a biased australian or anything )
    Better then falling and losing 2 minutes, as Vande Valde did today.

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    true, i was just surprised he was as cautious as he was.

    i guess they risk 'doing a john-lee augustyn' on every descent if not careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bricktopmarv View Post
    true, i was just surprised he was as cautious as he was.

    i guess they risk 'doing a john-lee augustyn' on every descent if not careful.
    i've driven on hills like that in switzerland. it's scary as hell being on top of that and looking down, and that's in a car. these guys are going stupid fast down it in a race; i'm surprised that more guys didn't reach the point where they had to back off. scary stuff coming down an alp, fast as hell, blustery winds blowing every direction around the peaks and passes, switchbacks, no guardrails.....menchov still has a big pair, even if he couldn't take it any more

    and i don't think that 35 seconds by itself would have been a mortal wound, but the 35 or so he lost in that flat stage in the first week was so stupid he's gonna pay for it now. i can see losing 35 seconds on a high technical descent; losing it that first week was a major mistake. it may cost him the tour
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