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roadwarrior 07-29-08 09:06 AM

Robbie McEwen leaving Lotto
 
Rumored to be headed for Katusha with Pozzatto and Steegmans.

He's definitely gone from Lotto...the Katusha thing is speculation.

ettsn 07-29-08 09:17 AM

Can you blame him?

kc0bbq 07-29-08 09:27 AM

Man, if Katusha gets all of the riders they are rumored to, they'll be able to man the tour with 18 good teams all by themselves. :)

merlinextraligh 07-29-08 09:41 AM

Assumming that Silence Lotto will try to add support for Evans for next year's TDF, McEwen really had little choice, if he wants another Green jersey or even more stage wins.

yellowjeep 07-29-08 10:59 AM

I thought I heard* Boonen was headed to that team for something like 3x what he is being paid now. I can't seen Tom and Robbie on the same team.

From Paul and Phil.

Tourmalet 07-29-08 11:00 AM

Evans should have left SL and signed up for a team that could actually support him. How long is his current contract? Evans on, say, Columbia would have won this year's Tour. At this point I'm not sure that a team change could help him next year. He'll again be up against Johan, Contador and Leipheimer machine. It wouldn't surprise me to see him finish second next year, just behind Contador.

Cromulent 07-29-08 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Tourmalet (Post 7159562)
Evans on, say, Columbia would have won this year's Tour. At this point I'm not sure that a team change could help him next year. He'll again be up against Johan, Contador and Leipheimer machine. It wouldn't surprise me to see him finish second next year, just behind Contador.

Evans, the Polidor of the new millennium?

merlinextraligh 07-29-08 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Cromulent (Post 7159718)
Evans, the Polidor of the new millennium?

Only difference is people liked Polidor.

Cromulent 07-29-08 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 7160099)
Only difference is people liked Polidor.

:lol::lol::lol:

kc0bbq 07-29-08 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 7160099)
Only difference is people liked Polidor.

It's hard to not look at Evans right now and use the baseball term: clubhouse poison.

erader 07-29-08 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 7160099)
Only difference is people liked Polidor.

it's not like mcEwen is liked is it? cancellara, who is pretty popular, said no one likes that little *******.

plus robbie is finished as a top sprinter :eek:.

so while i think evans is a total wad i also think mcEwen is worse.

ed rader

ultraman6970 07-29-08 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 7160099)
Only difference is people liked Polidor.

hahahahaha :)

PhateX1337 07-30-08 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Tourmalet (Post 7159562)
Evans on, say, Columbia would have won this year's Tour.

Umm....no?

Does anyone else find this to be false? Kirchen was left out to dry on all the climbs just as Cadel was, and Kirchen did not even hang with the good climbers most of the time. If Cadel were on Columbia he would not have won this year's tour, he would have done the same if not worse. Columbia is worse than Silence when it comes to climbs.

Matt888 07-30-08 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by PhateX1337 (Post 7166419)
Umm....no?

Does anyone else find this to be false? Kirchen was left out to dry on all the climbs just as Cadel was, and Kirchen did not even hang with the good climbers most of the time. If Cadel were on Columbia he would not have won this year's tour, he would have done the same if not worse. Columbia is worse than Silence when it comes to climbs.


Agreed. Cadel and Vande Velde could have caused a ruckus though.

Vuroth 07-30-08 11:05 AM

Does Robbie even still have it, I wonder? Team or no team, he didn't look as dominating or aggressive as he did a few years ago...

Allen H 07-30-08 08:44 PM

It'll be interesting to see where McEwen lands. I think he's just like Cadel, actually - both their windows for the jersey has probably closed, as they age and younger, stronger contenders emerge.

If Boonen is back, I don't see Robbie winning any sprint finishes against either Boonen or Cavendish, no matter what team he rides for or what lead-outs he gets.

2wheeled 07-30-08 08:50 PM

...possibly going to Tinkoff. From Velo News

"Australian sprinter Robbie McEwen has confirmed that he plans to leave Silence-Lotto for a new team next season.
McEwen has reportedly signed with Tinkoff Credit Systems squad, but in an interview with The Australian newspaper, the Aussie sprinter declined to confirm that."

Lotto really screwed up this year. No help for McEwen, no help for Evans :rolleyes:

Allen H 07-30-08 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by 2wheeled (Post 7172214)

Lotto really screwed up this year. No help for McEwen, no help for Evans :rolleyes:

I think those problems are probably interrelated. Lotto before Evans was a team built totally around getting McEwen group sprint stage wins. Now, they get a GC contender, so of course they SHOULD get more climbers and all-arounders who can help in the mountains - which obviously hurts the support for Robbie, and means the team has to be re-constructed for a very different objective.

Where they screwed up, it would appear, is they didn't accomplish getting Cadel any real support.

That says alot about either the team resources, the DS, or Cadel - b/c one, two, or all three had to be lacking somehow to not recruit a stronger team around Cadel for '08 especially, since he came in as the GC favorite (since last year's yellow wasn't even there). Maybe they were stuck with long-term contracts? Too small a budget? DS couldn't evaluate talent? Super-domestiques didn't want to ride for Cadel? Who knows - but for a team with a top GC contender, they were awfully weak.

maalea 07-30-08 09:18 PM

Why the hell would SL let Popovich try for the stage win on the 2nd day in the Alps? If Popo could have stayed on until the bottom of Alpe d'Huez and grabbed Satre's wheel.......

Who knows.... maybe Frank Schleck wins the day on the Alpe but still craps out in the TT.

I think the DS crapped the bed on that day.

USAZorro 07-30-08 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by erader (Post 7161798)
it's not like mcEwen is liked is it? cancellara, who is pretty popular, said no one likes that little *******.

plus robbie is finished as a top sprinter :eek:.

so while i think evans is a total wad i also think mcEwen is worse.

ed rader

Baloney. Plenty of people like Robbie. He pops off a bit, but when he does: a) - it's the truth, and b) - he doesn't bad-mouth his team mates.

His chances as a top sprinter do certainly seem to have dimmed considerably, but he still has some wins left in him.

Laggard 07-30-08 10:23 PM

He may have lost a step but he's till got a lot left in him. He had a bad tour and had the misfortune to run into an on-fire Cavendish. Same thing happened to our friend Thor.

I'd like to see Peta take on Cavendish.

lotek 08-01-08 08:40 AM

I want to see Peta, Tomke, McEwan and Cavendish all in a mad dash for the line.
That would be interesting indeed.

Marty

rufvelo 08-01-08 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by erader (Post 7161798)
...
plus robbie is finished as a top sprinter :eek:.

True especially in the company of Cavendish. He's not as lost as Zabel (yet) though, but next year he will be a year older.

LawnChair 08-05-08 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by erader (Post 7161798)
it's not like mcEwen is liked is it? cancellara, who is pretty popular, said no one likes that little *******.

plus robbie is finished as a top sprinter :eek:.

so while i think evans is a total wad i also think mcEwen is worse.

ed rader

I like listening to interviews with McEwen. He is one of the
most knowledgable riders in the peloton. He does
play to win though.


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