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Old 06-04-09, 05:59 AM
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Why Lance really came back (money & power)

Armstrong's comeback reasons reviewed by Walsh/Ballester

The authors of "LA Confidentiel", a book published in 2004 alleging that Lance Armstrong used performance-enhancing substances, have hit out at the cyclist once again. In their latest book, "Le Sale Tour" ["The dirty Tour" - ed.], Pierre Ballester and David Walsh write about the return to competition of the seven-time Tour de France winner and his apparent ambition to enter US politics.

The former journalist of L'Equipe and his colleague working for The Sunday Times allege that Armstrong's comeback to the sport after three years of absence is not to promote his Livestrong foundation against cancer, but that his real reasons for it are those of a businessman. According to Ballester and Walsh, Armstrong, after unsuccessfully bidding for shares of the company holding the Tour de France, came back to cycling to increase his personal wealth.

"Since last summer, his [non-profit] Livestrong foundation has a lucrative segment," said Ballester. "And when Armstrong receives 200,000 Euro to host a conference, he puts it into his pocket - unlike the leading cancer experts, who will donate the money."

The authors also claim that Armstrong has a political objective: become the governor of Texas in 2014. In the second half of the Book, Walsh and Ballester ask sports politicians about Armstrong's return, with former French sports secretary Jean-François Lamour saying, "This comeback is not a very good sign. It's even a kind of a masquerade."

Moreover, Ballester accused the organisers of the Tour de France, ASO, to privilege their business over the sports aspect at the Grande Boucle. "ASO's new strategy is more turned towards business than the credibility of the sport," said Walsh. "In allowing Armstrong to come back to the Tour, will be coming back also the ghosts of the past: doping, scheming, bribery... They must have weighed pros and cons, more important and less important, and decided in favour of Armstrong's return."
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thses Lance threads are
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Maybe they're right (Walsh, et. al.), maybe they're not.

My options: Not many.

My level of (deep) concern: Not much.

My opinion on the direction of this thread: Straight to flamer heaven (or is that hell?).

One thing I do feel pretty sure about is LA's political prospects in TX: Near zero. His sports hero status won't transcend issues such as religion, perceptions about his personal life and etc. with the electorate in that state, or many others. That's just political reality. Don't flame me b/c of it.


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Walter,

I don't disagree with your assessment of Texas voters but I think you under estimate the
pull that Lance has here in Texas. I think he could give it a credible run for the money (no pun
or double entendre ) hell, Kinky Friedman gave it a credible run.

In a similar vein I think that Messieurs Walsh and Ballester are most happy that Lance is making
a comeback as it allows them to write another book and sell it (as opposed to writing another book
about an ex-pro who no one wan't to read).

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who really cares? The reason why Ballester and Walsh wrote the book was to ride the coat tails of LA. They hoped to cash in on LA's alleged drug use and infamous popularity with the TDF. The authors claim they just want the truth to come out but then again why not make a buck or two also....
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Whether its for money, power, more fame, cancer awareness, fitness, etc. Who cares, just let him be and let him ride.
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I wonder how much money will be made by selling this book. Will it go to a foundation?
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Originally Posted by lotek
Walter,

I don't disagree with your assessment of Texas voters but I think you under estimate the
pull that Lance has here in Texas. I think he could give it a credible run for the money
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or double entendre ) hell, Kinky Friedman gave it a credible run.

In a similar vein I think that Messieurs Walsh and Ballester are most happy that Lance is making
a comeback as it allows them to write another book and sell it (as opposed to writing another book
about an ex-pro who no one wan't to read).

Marty
Perhaps. I'm only there for a couple of weeks each year visiting my in-laws. They're proud of LA even though that is the entire extent of their knowledge of pro cycling.

They wouldn't vote for him though. I can imagine the campaign tactics used against LA (Hollywood starlets, divorce, etc.) and my in-laws would turn off him in a heartbeat. I mean the voters take Rick Perry seriously nowadays. I find that more surprising than Friedman getting some votes.

Now this could be completely irrelevant as, AFAIK, LA has not seriously proclaimed political ambitions.

You are 100% right about Walsh and Ballester. I have no idea what their net worth is but it's alot higher than it would've been if they had never heard of Armstrong to be sure.

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I wonder how many others who aspire to the esteemed governorship of Texas have finished 12th or higher in the Giro.

That's a pretty good masquerade if he's putting one on via cycling.
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I wonder how many others who aspire to the esteemed governorship of Texas have finished 12th or higher in the Giro.

That's a pretty good masquerade if he's putting one on via cycling.
Does Andy Hampsten plan to move to TX and get into politics?
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Ballester and Walsh have been, and likely always will be, fos. Some folks eat it up, though. Whatever.
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Originally Posted by Walter
Does Andy Hampsten plan to move to TX and get into politics?
The question here is: Would he consider a comeback to the professional peloton and train hard enough to hang with the baddest climbers on the planet to accomplish that goal?
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And here I was thinking it was to pick up some more skinny blonde chicks.

Silly me.
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97
The question here is: Would he consider a comeback to the professional peloton and train hard enough to hang with the baddest climbers on the planet to accomplish that goal?
You're not taking the Hampsten quip seriously, are you?

If you are I've got to let you into the fact that I wasn't. So far as I know Hampsten is quite happy living where he lives (Colorado and Tuscany).

Anyways, he's a bit older than LA and, regarding the Giro, has nothing to prove.

(You do know who he is? )
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Originally Posted by Walter
(You do know who he is? )
I'm pretty sure I know who he is. I'm wearing my Cinghiale boar-on-a-bike cycling socks as I type this.

Thanks for the history lesson.
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Whatever any one thinks of Armstrong, the continued hard on these guys are showing for him is not doing much for their credibility.
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Originally Posted by wanders
And here I was thinking it was to pick up some more skinny blonde chicks.

Silly me.
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Originally Posted by lotek
Walter,

I don't disagree with your assessment of Texas voters but I think you under estimate the
pull that Lance has here in Texas. I think he could give it a credible run for the money (no pun
or double entendre ) hell, Kinky Friedman gave it a credible run.

In a similar vein I think that Messieurs Walsh and Ballester are most happy that Lance is making
a comeback as it allows them to write another book and sell it (as opposed to writing another book
about an ex-pro who no one wan't to read).

Marty
Yeah, but Kinky Friedman is totally awesome. That he didn't win is yet another sad reflection on Texas.
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Originally Posted by invwnut
who really cares? The reason why Ballester and Walsh wrote the book was to ride the coat tails of LA. They hoped to cash in on LA's alleged drug use and infamous popularity with the TDF. The authors claim they just want the truth to come out but then again why not make a buck or two also....
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Unless they're givng the book proceeds to cancer research, they need to STFU.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Unless they're givng the book proceeds to cancer research, they need to STFU.
Right, because thats the only worthy thing in the world. Do you donate your paycheck to cancer research?
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He who has the power and money also gets the ......
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Right, because thats the only worthy thing in the world. Do you donate your paycheck to cancer research?
No, nor do I expect anyone else to. That was my point--the hypocrisy is staggering. This book is going to make a lot of money for the authors and that's fine. Why is Lance not allowed to make money doing what he's good at?
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
He who has the power and money also gets the ......
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