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    TdF Stage 18 - Thursday July 23 - 40 km - ITT Annecy



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    looks open & windy. a powerful tt rider such as grabsch, kloden, cancellara, cadel, menchov, levi,
    armstrong or even hincapie should win here.

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    So can Lance gain time on Contador here or has his TT diminished enough that Contador and he are about the same. I know Contador beat him by 18 seconds on a short hilly TT but im wondering how this will suit each riders strengths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    looks open & windy. a powerful tt rider such as grabsch, kloden, cancellara, cadel, menchov, levi,
    armstrong or even hincapie should win here.
    Surrounded by mountains. Not so open, and might, or might not be windy.
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    why is there a feed zone? The cars will take 10 seconds to pass one packet of carb gel, and another 10 seconds to pass a handy napkin??
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    USAZorro - thanks for doing these.

    Your header date is wrong for this stage - Thurs is the 23rd, not the 24th.

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    For this stage....

    1. CONTADOR Alberto 21 ASTANA 72h 27' 09"
    2. SCHLECK Andy 31 TEAM SAXO BANK 72h 29' 35" + 02' 26"
    3. SCHLECK Frank 36 TEAM SAXO BANK 72h 30' 34" + 03' 25"
    4. ARMSTRONG Lance 22 ASTANA 72h 31' 04" + 03' 55"
    5. KLÖDEN Andréas 23 ASTANA 72h 31' 53" + 04' 44"
    6. WIGGINS Bradley 58 GARMIN - SLIPSTREAM 72h 32' 02" + 04' 53"
    7. NIBALI Vincenzo 95 LIQUIGAS 72h 32' 18" + 05' 09"
    8. VANDE VELDE Christian 51 GARMIN - SLIPSTREAM 72h 35' 17" + 08' 08"
    9. LE MEVEL Christophe 106 FRANCAISE DES JEUX 72h 36' 28" + 09' 19"
    10. ASTARLOZA Mikel 61 EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI 72h 37' 59" + 10' 50"
    11. KREUZIGER Roman 93 LIQUIGAS 72h 38' 01" + 10' 52"
    12. NOCENTINI Rinaldo 87 AG2R LA MONDIALE 72h 38' 47" + 11' 38"
    13. SASTRE Carlos 1 CERVELO TEST TEAM 72h 38' 48" + 11' 39"
    14. CASAR Sandy 101 FRANCAISE DES JEUX 72h 39' 01" + 11' 52"
    15. KARPETS Vladimir 161 TEAM KATUSHA 72h 39' 17" + 12' 08"
    16. GOUBERT Stephane 85 AG2R LA MONDIALE 72h 42' 38" + 15' 29"
    17. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 17 SILENCE - LOTTO 72h 44' 32" + 17' 23"
    18. BOTCHAROV Alexandre 162 TEAM KATUSHA 72h 46' 29" + 19' 20"

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    Code:
    Pos. 	 No. 	 Name 	                 Nat. 	 Team    Time 	         Gap
    1 	021 	CONTADOR, Alberto 	ESP 	AST 	72:27:09 	00:00:00
    2 	031 	SCHLECK, Andy 	        LUX 	SAX 	72:29:35 	00:02:26
    3 	036 	SCHLECK, Frank    	LUX 	SAX 	72:30:34 	00:03:25
    4 	022 	ARMSTRONG, Lance 	USA 	AST 	72:31:04 	00:03:55
    5 	023 	KLÖDEN, Andréas   	GER 	AST 	72:31:53 	00:04:44
    6 	058 	WIGGINS, Bradley 	GBR 	GRM 	72:32:02 	00:04:53
    7 	095 	NIBALI, Vincenzo 	ITA 	LIQ 	72:32:18 	00:05:09
    8 	051 	VANDE VELDE, Christian 	USA 	GRM 	72:35:17 	00:08:08
    9 	106 	LE MEVEL, Christophe 	FRA 	FDJ 	72:36:28 	00:09:19
    10 	061 	ASTARLOZA, Mikel 	ESP 	EUS 	72:37:59 	00:10:50
    11 	093 	KREUZIGER, Roman 	CZE 	LIQ 	72:38:01 	00:10:52
    12 	087 	NOCENTINI, Rinaldo 	ITA 	ALM 	72:38:47 	00:11:38
    13 	001 	SASTRE, Carlos     	ESP 	CTT 	72:38:48 	00:11:39

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    Alright Schleck boys.... get your massage, get some sleep, and take that happy feeling from today's win with you up to the ramp tomorrow and pedal until you think you might die, then pedal some more!!! Gonna take everything they got, and then some, tomorrow.

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    Lance needs a minute and a half to take second. He'll most likely best Frank Schleck, and will probably real in enough time on Andy to take it.

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    Here's a math man's predictions.*

    Stage 18 is 2.61x longer than stage 1. If all the GC leaders duplicate their average pace from stage 1, here are the results.**

    Contador 51:02
    Wiggins +0:50
    Kloden +0:57
    Nibali +1:37
    Armstrong +1:44
    A. Schleck +2:37
    F. Schleck +4:11

    The GC after these results is:

    Contador
    A. Schleck +5:03
    Armstrong +5:39
    Kloden +5:41
    Wiggins +5:43
    Nibali +6:46
    F. Schleck +7:35

    *The numbers in this post are for entertainment only and do not predict the future. The course is different, the emotions are different, and the Schlecks' are running out of spinach.

    **Cancellara will kill them all, taking first place by 46 seconds.
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    I don't think he does. Three weeks take a lot out of a guy.

    I predict

    1) Wiggins
    2)Armstrong
    3) Kloden

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    [QUOTE=**Cancellara will kill them all, taking first place by 46 seconds.[/QUOTE]

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    Cancellera wins in my math universe. I'm a Kifer guy, after all, and not suited to speculate about races.
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    Quoting myself. I am important.

    I have changed my mind. Armstrong puts it all in this stage. He take first. He puts 1 minute into Alberto, 2 in Andy, and 3 in Frank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reef58 View Post
    I don't think he does. Three weeks take a lot out of a guy.

    I predict

    1) Wiggins
    2)Armstrong
    3) Kloden

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    No predictions from me. Too many emotions flying around, hoping that may override some of the physical limitations or play into a few calculation errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuru View Post
    No predictions from me. Too many emotions flying around, hoping that may override some of the physical limitations or play into a few calculation errors.
    Armstrong made a big effort today, so hopefully he can recover OK. Between today's stage, tomorrow and Ventoux on Saturday, a few of the top riders may crack.

    I predict Armstrong will put time in on everyone ahead of him. Contador looked a little tired today.

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    Older cyclists have better stamina than younger people. Expect someone who's older than 30 to win.

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    I wouldn't bet against Armstrong or Wiggins here.

    My bold prediction? Carlos Sastre falls even farther behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aadhils View Post
    Older cyclists have better stamina than younger people. Expect someone who's older than 30 to win.
    Older people recover slower though... I know, I'm one of them. Ugh.

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    I think Lance will be in 2nd place tommorow and Kloden will be in 3rd.

    By enough to hold on to it in stage 20?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    I wouldn't bet against Armstrong or Wiggins here.

    My bold prediction? Carlos Sastre falls even farther behind.

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    My prediction for the top three:

    1. Contador
    2. Nibali
    3. Armstrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen H View Post
    USAZorro - thanks for doing these.

    Your header date is wrong for this stage - Thurs is the 23rd, not the 24th.
    Got it. Thanks.
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    I hoping Fabian will lay down the law again. I think Frank will get bumped from the podium, and Andy will have a couple people breathing down his neck.
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    Another fun day, to be sure... For Schlecks, they get to go 3rd and 2nd from last, right? So they'll have their guys yelling the times to beat in their ears to try to keep 2nd and 3rd. A tough order, it seems, for the Schlecks, but any little bit helps!

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