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    Lantern Rouge

    As usual I am willing to stick my neck out there and make predictions. This year I am going with Silence-Lotto's Johan VanSummeren to stay one pedal rev ahead of the broom wagon. Have a favorite? Post it here!

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    My go-to would have been Jimmy Casper, but he's not there this year.


    I'm going to pick Fumiyuki Beppu of Skil-Shimano. He may be in for the shock of his life.

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    Yauheni Hutarovich (FDJ) still has a solid lead for the Lantern Rouge after today's stage. He is 11:04 off the pace of Fabian Cancellara, with his next closest competitor being Andreas Klier of Cervelo Test Team at 9:59 and then a huge gap to the next rider, Kenny Van Hummel of Skil/Shimano at 3:24

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    We see a bit more juggling for the Lantern Rouge prize as yesterday's "leader" Yauheni Hutarovich of FDJ dropped to 3rd position. Holding onto the "red light" after today's action is Euskatel's Alan Perez. Here are the current standings:

    Alan Perez, Euskatel @ 16:24
    Dimitri Muravyev, Astana @ 15:52
    Yauheni Hutarovich, Francais des Jeux @ 11:45
    Andreas Klier, Cervelo Test Team @ 10:40
    Daniele Righi, Lampre @ 6:39

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    ...and our two trailers are 27y.o. Spanard Alan Perez Lexaun at 22:10 and 30y.o. Kazakh Dmitriy Muravyev at 19:31. They have arrived at their positions via tough Stage 3 results, but both were dropped by their team groups in the TTT and received their individual timings across the line in Stage 4.

    You gotta wonder if anyone else on Astana will sit by Muravyev on the team bus.

    It's still anyone's Lanterne, though. Nine men are 10 or more minutes down in just 4 stages.

    BTW, the oldest competitor in the 2009 ToF, 40y.o. Spanish rider Inigo Cuesta, is hanging in there in 78th place, only 4 minutes down. PB: He finished the Tour in 49th place...7 years ago.

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    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    I think the Muravyev has the motivation. Astana would possibly have the alpha and the omega.
    The search for inner peace continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    I think the Muravyev has the motivation. Astana would possibly have the alpha and the omega.
    Could be. What people are forgetting is the LR is for the lowest placed FINISHER. Just like hte Jerseys one has to finish. Muravyev may still be useful to the team up to the end and have a reason to stay in ht erace, where other poorly placed riders will have no such reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    Could be. What people are forgetting is the LR is for the lowest placed FINISHER. Just like hte Jerseys one has to finish. Muravyev may still be useful to the team up to the end and have a reason to stay in ht erace, where other poorly placed riders will have no such reason.
    Good point! Some of the bottom feeders now could end up missing the time cutoff at some point in the future. Hanging onto the LR is a fine line between last place and packing up and going home!

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    Arent there two Japanese riders this year?
    Am I racist for saying one of them?

    (I apologize to any of you sensitive types that may find my joke offensive)
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    Weren't you supposed to disappear after the TDF was over?
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    But then I'll never understand how taking a dump became precedent either. Why don't they call it leaving a dump? I mean... you're not really taking it anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howzit View Post
    Arent there two Japanese riders this year?
    Am I racist for saying one of them?

    (I apologize to any of you sensitive types that may find my joke offensive)
    Isn't at least one of them a pretty decent sprinter? I don;t recall any Japaneese riders before this, so both rookies. A rookie sprinter seems a good candidate to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    . A rookie sprinter seems a good candidate to me.
    But rookie sprinters often don't make it to Paris, or even plan to.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    No change on the "red jersey" podium for stage 5, but Robert Gesink broke his wrist in a tumble and Rabobank teammate Grischa Niermann stayed with him, nursing him to the finish. They dropped nearly 10 minutes to the field and some 8 minutes to all the other back markers by the line. Gesink has withdrawn from the tour due to the injury, leaving Niermann still in the race but solidly in the bottom ten on GC.

    It happens. I'd encourage Niermann to ask himself, "What would Wim do?"

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    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    I don't recall any Japaneese riders before this...
    They are the 3rd and 4th Japanese riders in Tour history.

    Fun fact: Kisso Kawamuro rode in the 1926 and 1927 Tours!

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    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    It happens. I'd encourage Niermann to ask himself, "What would Wim do?"

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    Some of us think the LR award should be engraved with that particular phrase!

    I did feel bad for Gesink today. Didn't hear the medical report on his injury but it appeared to be on the wrist (broken?) and his tumble down the leader board nearly put him equal to the LR hoi poloi. It remains to be seen how the battle will shape up when they get to Andorra and the climb up Arcalis on Friday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    Isn't at least one of them a pretty decent sprinter?
    Yep. I saw him throwing his bike for fifth the other day.

    Suzie: I could have sworn you've been here longer than a year.
    i may have overreacted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggard View Post
    Yep. I saw him throwing his bike for fifth the other day.

    Suzie: I could have sworn you've been here longer than a year.
    I came on board just before the Tour started last year. The fun and banter on this part of the forum really hooked me!

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    Stage 6 crossed a series of climbs...in the rain and wind. Days like this nearly always produce Red Lantern action, and today's racing delivered.

    Dutchman Kenny Robert van Hummel and Frenchman Jonathan Hivert, Skil-Shimano teammates, came in 16 minutes after the leaders today. Don't know the details, but the upshot is they have moved into last (van Hummel) and next to last (Hivert) place, 177th and 176th respectively.

    Yesterday's Lanterne Perez Lezaun clings to the third Lanterne podium spot, 175th, while Muravyev has shot up to 172nd.

    The lowest placed American is Danny Pate of Garmin-Slipstream, 169th.

    Van Hummel and Hivert's teammate, Beppusan of Japan, now sits in 166th.

    A quiet contender for the "red jersey" is now Belirusian Yauheni Hutarovich (Franšaise des Jeux), who has strung together several poor days without ever being really, really bad to sit in 174th. I've noted that consitantly finishing well back while consistantly staying comfortably ahead of daily time limits really pays off over the three-week long Tour. Keep your eye on Hutarovich!

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    "When man first set woman on two wheels with a pair of pedals, did he know, I wonder, that he had rent the veil of the harem in twain? A woman on a bicycle has all the world before her where to choose; she can go where she will, no man hindering." The Typewriter Girl, 1899.

    "Every so often a bird gets up and flies some place it's drawn to. I don't suppose it could tell you why, but it does it anyway." Ian Hibell, 1934-2008

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    After today's stage Dennis Menchov I loved watch him ride the Giro & I was hoping he could keep his form for the TDF, but it looks like he's toast.

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    And I stupidly put him on my fantasy team.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    And I stupidly put him on my fantasy team.
    Don't worry, a little blood transfusion goes a long way.*






















    * Although, I think his habit of crashing has hurt him.

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    Nothing a quick trip to Vienna can't fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    A quiet contender for the "red jersey" is now Belirusian Yauheni Hutarovich (Franšaise des Jeux), who has strung together several poor days without ever being really, really bad to sit in 174th. I've noted that consitantly finishing well back while consistantly staying comfortably ahead of daily time limits really pays off over the three-week long Tour. Keep your eye on Hutarovich!

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    I saw that earlier when at one point he did have the LR "jersey" on his back. But watch out for Andreas Klier of Cervelo Test Team, as he's only a fraction of a second "faster" than Hutarovich. This is shaping up to be a good battle. Friday's stage should shake things up a lot. I don't think the extent of the climbing will be enough to eliminate anyone on time, but who can say at this point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcs View Post
    They are the 3rd and 4th Japanese riders in Tour history.

    Fun fact: Kisso Kawamuro rode in the 1926 and 1927 Tours!

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    No Japanese rider has finished the Tour so far. I'll put a fiver on Danny Pate being lowest Anglo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    And I stupidly put him on my fantasy team.
    LOL...so did I, but I put him on the bench after that TTT crash!

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    i think danny pate time trials to well for his own good to win this

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